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Lou is definitely not bad on defense. She was competing all game, rode Morris out of bounds more than once and handled her chores on the traps pretty well forcing clock violations. I think she sometimes loses in comparison to Nika and Aubrey but she holds her own.
 
Can't play Dorka,Azzi and Nika 38-39 minutes. He's looking for trouble. So Ayanna fouls,so Lou can't play defense, so Caroline can't( I don't know what); so what. Just looking for trouble. Can't sit Azzi and/ or Nika last minute of a quarter? Really looking for trouble playing that many minutes. It's a really long season.

Getting a little tired of this mantra of who can play how many minutes. Its a false narrative. Always has been. May I suggest you look at the box scores of other teams. The starting 5 usually play the major minutes.

Geno played 8 last night. What more do you want? I would say following your suggestions is looking for trouble.

But as usual, you are entitled to your opinion. As am I.
 
For those asking about Taylor Jones not playing much in the fourth quarter until late, I don't know for sure.

I can tell you that she had shoulder surgery earlier this year while still at Oregon State. And, she was nursing a leg injury that kept her out of practice in October, and she was not cleared to play in the exhibition against DePaul, nor the scrimmage against Wayland Baptist. She played 23 minutes in the season opener this past Friday. She stated in the post-game presser that she was finally feeling 100%.

But, all that lost practice time for sure affects one's conditioning and endurance. Tonight she played 29 minutes (Q1: 7; Q2: 10; Q3: 7; Q4: 4 (the last 4 minutes only) despite taking a couple of falls to the floor. I can only guess she was exhausted and just needed some rest as the fourth quarter was underway. Perhaps she's being cautiously limited in total minutes per game.
UConn fans feel your pain......
 
I managed to rewatch the game again and got a better sense of it. Three things really stood out.

1) flopping. Texas did a ton of it. Mostly the refs ignored it. I don’t remember Vic’s team bing floppers, but this seemed extreme to me. Trying to take a charge is good D for the most part. But this tactic can get out of hand, and last night I thought it did.

2) the refs mainly did an evenhanded job, but the touch fouls seemed a bit overdone. Some were absurd. AE got caught on this on a drive in the 4th quarter. Aaliyah Moore suffered from a couple of these, too. I don’t think it affected the outcome, at least not much. But it wasn’t encouraging in light of the contact on blocks that they didn’t whistle. Jones seemed to get away with a lot, though this can be hard to tell on video. Also, I can’t help feeling that Lou’s third fouls was a poor call and it kept her off the floor for much of the game.

3) Defense. Texas played really good D much of the time. There were a few comical lapses, but given it’s November they exceeded my expectations. More importantly, I think we played even better D and it was really satisfying to see Nika at work, but also Azzi is an awesome defender. And when Aubrey was on the floor, our switching D was dazzling. Both teams seemed tired at times, and this isn’t surprising considering how hard they worked. Texas got a late run because we were tired, though thankfully Azzi was ready for the moment. She has a real motor.

And, of course, as everyone in the nation now knows, Azzi is a tremendous talent, arguably the best in the land (absent Paige) if she can sustain what she did last night. When I think about what the possibilities were when she arrived in Storrs the year after Paige, Geno must have had NCs dancing in his imagination. The injuries that have beset this pair must have hit him even harder than the rest of us. He’s done such a tremendous recruiting job, and to watch it thwarted by the injury demon has to be crushing.
 
My view is to compare Dorka to Butler coming back from a broken thumb. Lack of strength in Dorka's wrist seemed to make her more tentative grabbing the ball, particulalry on contested rebounds. Predict as she gets more confidence in her wrist and we will see less of this. Regarding the Texas game, few teams will have as much height as the Longhorns so thank goodness Dorka was out there.
She got whacked on the wrist when she was on a breakaway layup. I was concerned when Dorka held her wrist for a few moments. That play may have gotten into her head a bit
 
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I though it was a very good game. The only issue I have is the same one I've had over the last couple of seasons. That is the inability to close out games against good opponents. Up by 17 with 4 minutes to play, you should not win by only 7. It looked like they stopped playing defense.
 
I just finished watching the 1st Qtr. I was out for the evening and seeing the game stats I wsas surprised. In the first 10 minutes both Dorka and Liya were just out fought under the basket and both of them had the same problem. Weak hands and an inability to finish under the basket. Very disappointing start for both of them, but from the game stats, they had to have improved as the game progressed. They both lacked the intensity that the TX bigs came out with to start the game.

By the way, Yanna's first foul was ridiculous. What could she have possibly have been thinking, or actually not thinking? Lots of game video for Geno to work with

This. As I said in the game chat, Jamelle Elliott needs to work with them on being more aggressive. Maybe she said something during half time because both played much stronger underneath the basket during the second half.
 
Also, I can’t help feeling that Lou’s third fouls was a poor call and it kept her off the floor for much of the game.
I thought it was Aubrey's play that kept Lou out. We saw others play major minutes with three fouls. Aubrey was a terrific wing in all the minutes she played - much improved from two years ago especially in her participation in offensive flow.

It's a challenge for Lou to play full on high level Div 1 after 4 years of what worked in Div 2. Based on Geno's take on her, she'll be better up to it soon.

When Caroline is back to prior form, we'll be have a superb rotation at the 3.
 
No, I think he is right. Edwards is soft and slow, Dorka is soft and weak. Didn’t matter tonight, but it will. I want to be wrong, but am predicting points from the bigs will be hard to come by in March. And they both give baseline easily.
Tough to cast dispersions, given a victory against someone ranked higher then us, understanding there are serious flaws with that, this time of year. However, I have to agree with the assessment regarding Edwards and Juhasz, but they both worked their tails off last night. They both need to get quicker and more aggressive against more assertive biggies, such as Boston, understanding she’s in a class by herself. Azzi is incredible and turned it on when we needed it. Kudos to Aubrey and Nika for great contributions.
 
Like everyone, I thoroughly enjoyed last night's game. There was much to be excited about and I'm looking forward to this team continuing to improve. But watching last night's game, I couldn't help thinking how I cannot wait until Paige and Azzi play together at full strength. It will be something to see. Hard to imagine a better backcourt than the two of them together and healthy.
 
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One more thing to gush about in Azzi’s performance. At the 8:20 mark in the 2nd quarter, Azzi brings the ball up the floor against Sonya and blows past her at the top of the key. Sonya lets her go because the Texas bigs have her back, but Azzi doesn’t care. She’s at the rim before they could react. We all thought Jones Gaston and Moore were a formidable front court. It speaks volumes about Azzi’s renewed confidence that she was willing to challenge them… and win.

Another sign of the new Azzi: she wanted the ball in her hands against the press. Nika brought it up a lot too. And Azzi’s handles are awesome. Once she had the ball in her hands the Texas press seemed irrelevant.
 
special KUDOS to the refs for not falling for TEXAS' attempt to
get Azzi into FOUL trouble with all those FLOPS . Watched
the AZZI highlights or the whole game. I counted so many,
that I lost count!

That was disgusting. Flopping/embellishment needs to be punished. I don't believe the NCAA has a rule about this. In the NHL if you flop/embellish to draw a call you can get 2 minutes in the box as well as your opponent. Unfortunately it isn't called nearly as much as it should be.
 
Getting a little tired of this mantra of who can play how many minutes. Its a false narrative. Always has been. May I suggest you look at the box scores of other teams. The starting 5 usually play the major minutes.

Geno played 8 last night. What more do you want? I would say following your suggestions is looking for trouble.

But as usual, you are entitled to your opinion. As am I.
I wonder how many of the posters that thought Jones should have played more minutes are some of the same posters that complain that Geno doesn't use his bench enough. I guess "wearing down the opponent" doesn't it matter for the other team? Instead the other team should play their stars more but not UCONN?

Anyway, stars play in big games for Geno. They always have. There are many titles and many Final Fours that back up this philosophy.
 
Azzi is a dream! Griffin was a lifesaver and will get lots of minutes this season. The Team as a whole played very well, but faded in the 4th quarter when they knew (felt they had) the game won. I don't think Geno will stand for that in the future.

It was good to see Caroline out there. Like many of us I was in denial, thinking she would probably start her first game back and slay dragons. In reality, she isn't ready for prime-time yet. I am a bit concerned that Geno gave her no additional minutes in the second half. I hope that doesn't mean a possible setback in her readiness?
 
I though it was a very good game. The only issue I have is the same one I've had over the last couple of seasons. That is the inability to close out games against good opponents. Up by 17 with 4 minutes to play, you should not win by only 7. It looked like they stopped playing defense.
I agree.
A little more push and a minute less on the clock and we’d have seen Amari and Ines’.
I liked what I saw from both last game and would’ve liked to have seen more.
 
Some random thoughts:

You'd never know Aubrey Griffin was coming off major back surgery- she was quick and smooth in her movements, like she'd never missed a game or a practice. So good to see her moving so freely out there, no hesitation at all.

Nika- damn I love that kid. What impressed me the most is she finished a tightly called game with just 3 fouls. Earlier in her career she would have fouled out by half time. I also loved it when she nailed that 3 pointer, she knew it was in right when the ball left her hands. Some great passes too. I think it was the best game of her career so far, all that hard work in the offseason is paying off for her.

Azzi Fudd- she is everything advertised and more. There isn't anything she can't do. Can't wait for her & Paige to finally play together, it's going to be one hell of a show.

Still not happy with free throw shooting. They stink at it and at some point those misses are going to bite them in the backside.

Still want to see the bigs be more aggressive underneath. They were not good in the first half but definitely picked it up in the second.
 
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Can't play Dorka,Azzi and Nika 38-39 minutes. He's looking for trouble. So Ayanna fouls,so Lou can't play defense, so Caroline can't( I don't know what); so what. Just looking for trouble. Can't sit Azzi and/ or Nika last minute of a quarter? Really looking for trouble playing that many minutes. It's a really long season.
Relax, it's early in the season and this was a very important game! He played eight, six of whom got significant minutes.
 
For those asking about Jones second half, she had her upper right thigh taped up in the second half.
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I though it was a very good game. The only issue I have is the same one I've had over the last couple of seasons. That is the inability to close out games against good opponents. Up by 17 with 4 minutes to play, you should not win by only 7. It looked like they stopped playing defense.
Fatigue?
 
I’m baffled why so many are expecting a March level of competence in the second game of the season. Texas had similar problems that, for some reason, UConn fans are attributing to Vic. As Vic said, both teams will be a lot better by the end of the season.

There are new players to assimilate, returning players in new roles, and an opponent they haven’t seen in a while. Why would people expect post-season form?
 
Can't play Dorka,Azzi and Nika 38-39 minutes. He's looking for trouble. So Ayanna fouls,so Lou can't play defense, so Caroline can't( I don't know what); so what. Just looking for trouble. Can't sit Azzi and/ or Nika last minute of a quarter? Really looking for trouble playing that many minutes. It's a really long season.
During most of the season, Geno won't be playing them 38+ minutes a game. But against Top 5 competition.....he probably will. And no, it's not looking for trouble.

They really didn't look all that gased last night. And they have til Sunday to recover.
 
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I think that they would have scored much higher if they were more effective in making foul shots. Apparently they were only 50 per cent. The lead would have been much larger.
True they were 9/18 and could have won by double digits.

However, Texas was 10/20. So if they'd have made their FTs, they could have won the game.
 
All this talk about bigs and SC and Stanford are good examples. How do you stop them. You dont but we've got Azzi and they cant stop her either. Just somethin to think about.
 
That was disgusting. Flopping/embellishment needs to be punished. I don't believe the NCAA has a rule about this. In the NHL if you flop/embellish to draw a call you can get 2 minutes in the box as well as your opponent. Unfortunately it isn't called nearly as much as it should be.
On the mens side it’s an automatic technical foul this year. Prior years gave a single warning.
 
One more thing to gush about in Azzi’s performance. At the 8:20 mark in the 2nd quarter, Azzi brings the ball up the floor against Sonya and blows past her at the top of the key. Sonya lets her go because the Texas bigs have her back, but Azzi doesn’t care. She’s at the rim before they could react. We all thought Jones Gaston and Moore were a formidable front court. It speaks volumes about Azzi’s renewed confidence that she was willing to challenge them… and win.

Another sign of the new Azzi: she wanted the ball in her hands against the press. Nika brought it up a lot too. And Azzi’s handles are awesome. Once she had the ball in her hands the Texas press seemed irrelevant.
We all did? Formidable? This is a vastly different pre-game assessment than what you gave us in post #24 in the Rory Harmon Injury thread where you said:
"The other bigs -- Faye, Moore, and Gaston -- are not really credible post threats, though they are active on the boards and sometimes scramble for putbacks. To illustrate this, Piath or Amari could probably start or be major rotation players in this squad". Do you still think Gabriel and DeBerry would have started or been in that rotation last night? I don't think Schaefer does. Nor Auriemma.
 
I didn't expect such a close final score without Harmon playing.
In the 4th quarter, Geno played the strongest defensive upper classmen which left Azzi as the primary scorer.
IMO it became a crunch test specifically for her which she passed with flying colors.
Not only does she now have the attention of the WBB world, but UConn didn't need to reveal other scorers that can be used for other games.
Any team that wants to target Azzi will need to deal with UConn's scoring depth.

In Dorka's defense, in the 4th quarter she became an important ball handler & dribbler in the back court, keeping the ball secure along with Nika until giving it to Azzi.
This was Azzi's opportunity to get attention for All American status as long as she can keep scoring on all levels, especially with her mid range game.
It's delightful to see her not need to only rely on lower percentage 3's.
Without a doubt she's the best all around player on the current team which makes her a leader and a role model.
Azzi showed that there's really no stopping her when she's on the floor long enough.
She put on a clinic.
That Azzi was spotlighted on Swin Cash's big night is a fitting tribute to both players as the torch of UConn stardom gets passed to a new generation.
 
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We all did? Formidable? This is a vastly different pre-game assessment than what you gave us in post #24 in the Rory Harmon Injury thread where you said:
"The other bigs -- Faye, Moore, and Gaston -- are not really credible post threats, though they are active on the boards and sometimes scramble for putbacks. To illustrate this, Piath or Amari could probably start or be major rotation players in this squad". Do you still think Gabriel and DeBerry would have started or been in that rotation last night? I don't think Schaefer does. Nor Auriemma.
Fair enough, @BobbyJ I did get it wrong about how good their bigs are. But only by a little bit. I did say Jones would be formidable as a scorer and defender. It was mainly Moore who surprised me. The stats don’t show much for her and Gaston, but I think Moore got sidelined by a couple of bad calls. She was other wise playing well.

I still think Piath and Amari would be in their rotation. You’ll notice that Faye barely played, though Vic says she’ll be part of their regular rotation, though probably not when they’re playing us. She’s who I’m comparing to.

Now that we’ve dissected my opinion, how about you make your case for the how their bigs played.
 
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