UConn - Syracuse

[Suebird10fan]

Even before the Syr-Wash, I considered Syr more dangerous.
When you're an overwhelming favorite, a conventional opponent like Washington has very little chance.
A havoc team like Syracuse has a wider variance, and when you're the favorite, high-variance is not what you want.

High variance is why shooting a huge amount of 3s helps an overwhelming underdog. Most of the time it widens the spread but every now and then it narrows it in a big way. And it helps Syracuse that they can hoist 30+ threes without deviating from their offense. It IS their offense.

 

[diggerfoot]

Even before the Syr-Wash, I considered Syr more dangerous.
When you're an overwhelming favorite, a conventional opponent like Washington has very little chance.
A havoc team like Syracuse has a wider variance, and when you're the favorite, high-variance is not what you want.

I understand the concept and agree somewhat. However ...
1. It's a convenient concept. If we slaughter them, chalk it up to high variance. If it's tight, chalk it up to high variance. Hell, if it's expected chalk it up to high variance.
2. What's the evidence that this class has ever had trouble with a havoc team? That's a serious question. Too my knowledge our struggles (if you can call it such) have been to disciplined teams that shoot the three well, not havoc teams. If we are tailored made to destroy havoc/high-variance teams, then that is what you want, but maybe I'm missing something from our performances the past four years. Now if you meant to say teams that rely on the three-ball there's more evidence to support that, but that's not necessarily the same as a havoc team.

 

[malevocalist#]

I've got a question that I would like some feedback on.....
We're playing Syracuse for the national championship Tuesday. This is THE game that Geno, his staff and the team have been practicing and training for since way back in October.
I completely understand the brevity and the importance of this game, we all do.

My question is: How much more (if any) will we as fans will be concerned about Syracuse and their potential of beating the huskies NOW, than we would have been back in December when UConn wanted to play them in New York, and were denied? Another way of asking is, are they more scary now, than they were back in December? I'm sure they will be some posters that will voice some concerns about Syracuse.
I'm not suggesting that we take Syracuse lightly. That's a good way to get beat. Are as good as we perceived Oregon State to be?

How much more or less should we be concerned. As much as we were over Oregon State, or less? The last three tournament, there was one team that gave UConn a tough and competitive game.
Three years ago it was BYU. Two years ago it was Dayton. Last year it was Notre Dame. This year we're down to one, and no team has really presented a formidable challenge so far. Is Syracuse the one?

For one we should not underestimate them or take them for granted. And we won't.

They shot all over the place last night. We are down one great shooter. I hate that.

I will be nervous if Syracuse shoot against Uconn the way they did last night. I'm human but yet full of faith supporting Uconn.

But with that said Uconn's defense is a different monster altogether.

Butler is the only one who can gun it under pressure. We must stay in her face at all times without the ball.

Mo must play that CornerBack shut down defense on Peterson.

And yes they have to worry about Uconn as well. If not more so.

Hopefully these refs don't try to alter the game and let them play without the ticky tac calls.

Let's Do This.

 

[Vowelguy]

I understand the concept and agree somewhat. However ...
1. It's a convenient concept.

It's not "convenient"; it's math.

2. What's the evidence that this class has ever had trouble with a havoc team?

Show me where I said they did.

 

[bags27]

UConn played among its very best defensive games of the year against OSU, disrupting their entire game plan. Syracuse doesn't mind being disrupted: they'll shoot from even further from the basket. But a suffocating man-to-man will force them into even lower % shots. It's about maintaining the same defensive pressure--in a different way--than last game.

 

[MikeR01950]

If Cuse makes shots, their athleticism could make this a tough out. Losing a 3-pt shooter hurts UConn. It will be tough to shoot better than they did on Sunday.

Did we all watch the same game last night? The Syracuse and Washington game was all about jacking up 3's. There was no fluent offense. First of all Syracuse basis is jacking up 3's and trapping defense. They have absolutely no inside game. Only size is the Day sisters. The one that starts is the better of the 2. But they are no where on the same page as tuck Stewie or gabby. UCONN will own the inside game. Washington played horrible defense. As much as Syracuse hit the 3 good last night they won't get as many open looks. Secondly UCONN will be able to break there press. UCONN has length athletism and can go full speed for 40 minutes. Yes losing Lou hurts but in my opinion Syracuse is the perfect matchup for gabby cause of how athletic she is. Yes she's not a prolific scorer like Lou but her defense is far better at this point in there careers. GENO has stated gabby is the most athletic player on the team. I believe saynia should play some to. She can stroke the 3 and can create her own shot. It's about game match ups and UCONN in my opinion plays the best defense in the nation. UCONN has scorers at every position. UCONN has height at every position. Stewie will go off tomorrow night it's her last g around and mo and tuck. They will be playing out of there mind. Trust me they don't want to go out on the losing side. UCONN is the only team in the nation that can afford to lose a starter and not lose a beat. That's why UCONN is so good they get the best of all there players. There players are primed for the biggest stage. They work all season for this moment. I think UCONN wins big!! The shots won't come as easy as they did last night.

 

[HopJim]

UConn played among its very best defensive games of the year against OSU, disrupting their entire game plan. Syracuse doesn't mind being disrupted: they'll shoot from even further from the basket. But a suffocating man-to-man will force them into even lower % shots. It's about maintaining the same defensive pressure--in a different way--than last game.

Yes, and defensive pressure leads to steals and steals lead to fast breaks and the inability for Syr. to set up their zone. One on one, particularly in the open court, Syracuse will have a very tough time.

 

[MikeR01950]

Secondly not trying to down Lou and her injury. The fact it happened saddens me because u never want that to ever happen to any player no matter what program they play for. On the bright side this injury could have happened in the middle of the season and she could have lost the season and no chance on a red shirt. She could have had a major knee injury and who knows never been able to come back the same again. The promising side is she will come back stronger and will get her time to shine in her 3 remaining years at UCONN. Remember folks it's one game left and losing a starter hurts but it's not the end of Tuesday. We have 3 all Americans player of the year best point guard in the nation and some pretty good players coming of the bench. GENO doesn't just recruit any one or bring in any player just to fill a roster. If u play for UCONN your special. At anytime a player can go down its part of the game. Just means it's someone else's turn to step up. I think a lot of us are looking like Lou's injury is going to cause major issues. No disrespect for Lou she's amazing but one player isn't going to decide a game when u have a talented team that has shown all season long when one or two players have a bad night another one comes out of know where and has a huge game. I don't think tomorrow night will be any different. Syracuse pressure there 3's is all I'm reading. Let me tell u something... How is Syracuse going to defend UCONN and all there scoring weapons?? Not to mention Syracuse hasn't faced the UCONN pressure all season long. OSU would have destroyed both teams last night. We destroyed them by 29 points with Lou out with injury and Stewie having one of her worst half's of basketball in a long time. Enough said!!

 

[UConnCat]

Syracuse reminds me a little bit of Louisville 2013. Louisville didn't press full-court as much as Syracuse does but they did try to create havoc defensively in the half-court with different defenses and traps. Walz also gave that team the green light to shoot as many 3s as were open. I think before the Baylor game he told his team he would be okay if they shot 40 threes; they shot 25 and made 16. Louisville wasn't on target with its 3s against UConn (5-23) in the championship game. UConn defended Louisville better than Baylor did, plus the magnitude of the moment seemed to catch up with the cardinals.

 

[diggerfoot]

It's not "convenient"; it's math.



Show me where I said they did.

Yes, I know variance is a math concept or, more precisely, a statistical concept. My first Bachelors was in Math with a minor in Statistics so I really can grasp both. Something can be both convenient and math based, but I do apologize for using that term. Perhaps "lacking in meaning" would have been less offensive and convey my point better. The variance of a basketball team's performance is not like random events, where there is nothing external impacting the variance. Consequently, to declare a team is less desirable to play because of high variance lacks meaning without considering the external factors, the other teams, that contributed to the variance. The more guard-oriented and/or experienced a team the less that havoc should result in better results. Logic does not seem to suggest, at least to me, that UConn should have trouble with Syracuse, high variance be damned. However, perhaps there is evidence to suggest otherwise. I asked my question about "What evidence" precisely because neither you nor anyone has provided such evidence of havoc hurting us in the past four years, but maybe there is a gap in my recollection and it exists. That is why I referred to it as a serious question rather than a rhetorical one. I would defer to actual evidence showing havoc could hurt us trumping my logic if some existed. Actually, I'm confused as to why you would request that I "Show me where I said they did," when my clear intent was to be shown something that has not yet been shown.

Anyways, I did not intend to offend and perhaps had a careless choice of words.

 

[magic]

I think Soniya gets the start. She's been here . I still feel she is a talented kid, and fits into this type of game. She has improved her defense and is a good passer and ball handler. It might just be her time. Williams and Collier will get plenty of important minutes in their normal roles.

 

[nd2tty]

It could go one of several ways, all with UConn winning, but if UConn stays calm, shreds the press, and shoots relatively well, it could get ugly. Like largest margin of victory in a national championship game ugly. Syracuse might have to go 15-30 from 3 just to keep it respectable.

 

[RSHERMVIKES]

I posted earlier on this thread but I can't stand QH & 'cuse!
1. Geno and his coaching staff do not like QH & Syracuse! They will make sure their players are at the top of their game!
2. Even with KLS out, UCONN has too much of everything to have 'cuse make a game of it!
3. 'cuse tries to out shoot you by taking 40+ shots figuring they'll get 15 to 20 go in. UCONN will be all over them all 40 minutes!
4. 'cuse is so cocky, not confident, cocky, which is FALSE COURAGE, like their coach QH! All ego no substance. There won't be any "fainting on the bench" or Q going down the bench slapping 5. UCONN will shut them up quickly!
5. I think Collier will start to keep the height advantage, with Gabby coming off the bench. I see Saniya & Natalie getting more playing time!
6. UCONN and especially the 3 seniors will embarrass 'cuse with it's pressure and length and athletic ability & pull away to a 85 to 56 win!

 

[TitleTown]

I think that Williams is going to start and play big minutes. I think Geno may match her up against Butler so she can use her height and athleticism to stop Butler from getting good 3 pt looks.

 

[DaddyChoc]

I posted earlier on this thread but I can't stand QH & 'cuse!
1. Geno and his coaching staff do not like QH & Syracuse!

who told you that, stop spreading false information

 

[Carnac]

Who do You think UConn rather play tomorrow, Syracuse or Notre Dame?

 

[cbraarj]

I have a feeling Stewie will take this game personally because they said no for a homecoming game.

 

[DaddyChoc]

I have a feeling Stewie will take this game personally because they said no for a homecoming game.

hopefully she took all the games personally

 

[VAUConnFan]

Understandably, this article contradicts what many Boneyarders allow themselves to believe:
Longtime friends on opposite sides in title game

 

[Tonyc]

We've seen it before UConn wins because they play as a team and depend not on an individual but the team executing. Stewie 2 pts in the first half and UConn up a ton. Cuse has no execution unless its by mistake. Its one on one. UConns height will negate Cuses defense and UConns passing game will shine. This game could be over very early and the blow out will continue through out the game. As good as Cuses defense has been they cant defend against lack of height. UConn 94 Cuse 58.

 

[Vowelguy]

I
All ego no substance. !

Making it to the NC game is "no substance"? Interesting.

 

[HoopsFan21]

I have a feeling Stewie will take this game personally because they said no for a homecoming game.

Coach Q and the Stewart family are friends. As he said a few times in his press conference yesterday, he gets text messages from Stewie's dad, and refers to Stewie's parents on a first name basis, said Bre is a terrific kid, and has invited her to practice when she's home in the past. There is no evidence of not granting Stewie a homecoming game being anything personal.

 

[Eponym164]

Looking back at Syracuse's season - they LOST to Carolina. Last year, that would not have much meaning, but this year, Carolina was below .500 for the season. I was at that game - UConn should not have a problem....

 

[DaddyChoc]

Making it to the NC game is "no substance"? Interesting.

excuse him...

 

[Rayvin56]

Having carefully watched the Syracuse/Wash game, I see a 25+ point victory for UConn with the gabulous one having a career night...