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UConn Outbound Transfers for 8/1/23>7/31/24 Cycle

This has to be the play for the time being. Not only Haynes getting drafted and Mitchell going to a showcase but also Joly getting poached by a bigger team. Our kids getting poached should be a recruiting tool.
I like it. No more groveling around trying to get good players to commit for four or five years with our paltry NIL funds.

Get good examples of guys who are one of six at their position at AlaF'ingBama and who don't play, are getting some money but no great bag, and compare them to examples of players who were able to develop and showcase their ability at UConn and how much more money they got when they transferred for their third or fourth year at a school like MSU.

Our motto should be come here for a little but leave for a lot.......win/win for all.
 
It stinks for college football overall. This was always the rub with the amateurism debate. The amateur system, as flawed as it was, leveled the playing field immensely.

And I've never felt sorry for a second for a student athlete who gets a full ride to a university (plus plenty of perks on top of that). But yes, this new environment certainly benefits them as individuals immensely and I can't blame any of them for taking part. But it absolutely stinks for college football, and for UConn in particular.
We agree there. However, we must admit that a UConn fans perspective of college football and let’s say any school’s fanbase that is benefiting from this NIL era is vastly different.
 
I like it. No more groveling around trying to get good players to commit for four or five years with our paltry NIL funds.

Get good examples of guys who are one of six at their position at AlaF'ingBama and who don't play, are getting some money but no great bag, and compare them to examples of players who were able to develop and showcase their ability at UConn and how much more money they got when they transferred for their third or fourth year at a school like MSU.

Our motto should be come here for a little but leave for a lot.......win/win for all.
It's obviously not a long term play. But if being a developmental stepping stone for a minute helps in the win column then it's a benefit. And when you win you have a better chance to get the money to get the players.
 
I’m glad he played out the season and played hard. He’s transferring for the right reasons IMO.
If he didn't transfer then he'd be an idiot. It's one thing to leave a winning program that showcases your talent. It's another to leave... Whatever this is right now.
 
Agree with someone earlier saying that we should embrace being a farm system for the big boys. Alabama can pay the guys (NIL) to come here for 1-2 years. if they are good enough, they get promoted up. Guys we recruit / pull in from transfer will have the eyes of Bama on them. Perform they may pull you up. Share coaching resources, etc. Becomes a coaching farm for them too. Change the game on how it is approached. Tie in some bama games and / or other SEC games every year
 
We should work out a deal with Bama -- we'll run your stuff if you feed us the players you want to eventually poach.

and take on kids who can't start there but were 5 stars coming out of high school. If we are going to be a minor league team might as well be tethered to a good program.
 
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I agree that Mora is taking the right approach. As for me, I was disappointed to learn that
Joly was leaving. I went out to split wood and was thinking about a 0 star player leaving for NIL. Did he come to UConn and think he would be an NFL player. I would hope that a 0 star kid like that comes here to play and get an education. I understand that he is leaving for money and thats his choice. However for me, I will not root for any the players who leave via portal for money. I will continue to root for whomever is wearing the UConn uni. Once a player transfers I am no longer interested. Now thats not 100% but damn near close. You leave for the money, then good luck I guess. I think I am in the minority here so hammer away.
 
Can't really fault any of them although the mid season transfers bug me. Kind of forced by the four-game rule though.
 
It kills me after all the thanking, memories, and this and that all these kids say, "And with that being said"..... I'm bouncing

SMH
Abso-fracking-lutely. Better to call how it is, I'm leaving for more money and maybe more playing time while community and education mean jacks*** to me.

Last two days have been like the Red Wedding mixed with Halloween movies...the death blows keep coming. Mumu, Zion, Joly, and Ruelas gone, meanwhile we gotta swallow this bile of keeping the garbage OC. Sooo, I'm expecting now Edwards and Rosa to declare they're leaving too...I need a drink.
 

Nebraska's Matt Rhule: 'Good QB' Costs $1-2M in NIL Deals in Transfer Portal​

Pretty scary/funny when you think how much UConn Football gets for media rights.
One QB on a P5 team is worth as much as the entire UConn Football program.
 
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Hoosiers Connect, an official NIL collective of Indiana Athletics, announced Thursday a fundraising campaign called 'Back the Rock.' An anonymous donor has pledged $1 million in matching funds for all donations made to Hoosiers Connect and Hoosiers For Good through the end of the year.

This is the arms race College Athletics has become..... I don't think anyone thinks this is a good thing
 
We agree there. However, we must admit that a UConn fans perspective of college football and let’s say any school’s fanbase that is benefiting from this NIL era is vastly different.

Nah, UConn basketball is benefiting and I still don’t like it selfishly as a fan. It’s reality so I hope we do continue to poach good players from the transfer portal, but as a fan I’d rather we’d go back to the days you mostly relied on high school recruiting and developed guys
 
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With all due respect, stinks for whom? Not the players, which should always be kept at the center of all of this. If UConn had bags of cash and were getting the top players in consistently to supplement winning records year over year and the Rent was packed because of it- I doubt you would be pining for change
No. I think it is on the verge of ruining the game. Really every sport. And I’m not that sure that “the kids” really benefit either.

As I’ve said, in basketball we are a hunter right now, but that certainly isn’t guarenteed to last forever. Our best player started at East Carolina and we bought him. If I were the coach at ECU I’d be pretty ticked off. Last year we rented a couple of guys and probably have for this year too.

It is getting to the point where it really isn’t that interesting to watch a bunch of nomads playing for whoever has the deepest pockets. Education has pretty much become a bigger joke than it already was. And how about guys show a bit of loyalty, understand that sometimes you need to work harder if you want to play more, and that it isn’t only about money. Crazy ideas, I know.

Mora is being ever the gentleman.
 
Hoosiers Connect, an official NIL collective of Indiana Athletics, announced Thursday a fundraising campaign called 'Back the Rock.' An anonymous donor has pledged $1 million in matching funds for all donations made to Hoosiers Connect and Hoosiers For Good through the end of the year.

This is the arms race College Athletics has become..... I don't think anyone thinks this is a good thing
It’s crazy that a Big 10 school that makes what , $70m per year? in broadcast rights has to resort to guilting private donors to pay its players since the ‘rules’ don’t allow the schools to share revenue.

Such a broken system
 
If it's all about what schools can pay the athletes the most, then I'll just watch the NFL. There are plenty of other things I can do on a Saturday that don't involve college football.
Starting to agree.
There’s no allegiance to the school, these are not students, and if the NFL had these same rules, the owners would raise holy hell. This model isn’t sustainable and only big market teams would win.

I don’t blame the players. The adults in charge have let this get out of hand.
 
Nah, UConn basketball is benefiting and I still don’t like it selfishly as a fan. It’s reality so I hope we do continue to poach good players from the transfer portal, but as a fan I’d rather we’d go back to the days you mostly relied on high school recruiting and developed guys
We don't make the rules, but as you admit, if you want UConn to continue to be a top school in BB we have to abide by these methods.

That we can't compete in FB doesn't bother me as much, because we have chosen to not compete since the dissolution of the Big East.
 
Nah, UConn basketball is benefiting and I still don’t like it selfishly as a fan. It’s reality so I hope we do continue to poach good players from the transfer portal, but as a fan I’d rather we’d go back to the days you mostly relied on high school recruiting and developed guys

Sounds great. But Nate Carter, Aaron Turner, Marion and now Joly were develeloped by us out of high school and they moved on.

We have to be stoic about this and embrace the chaos. Guys we develop will leave and when we don’t have backfill ready we have to go to the portal to fill immediate needs.
 
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Love the way Mora is handling this. Will pay dividends in the long run.

And watching this happen - is going to loosen up some pockets in some of the wealthy alumni.

The downside of NIL is that you can lose players if you don't have the money.

The upside of NIL is that you can also get players if you DO have the money. Without NIL - a problem like UCONN is unsolvable without years of winning. Now this is just a math problem.
 
Hoosiers Connect, an official NIL collective of Indiana Athletics, announced Thursday a fundraising campaign called 'Back the Rock.' An anonymous donor has pledged $1 million in matching funds for all donations made to Hoosiers Connect and Hoosiers For Good through the end of the year.

This is the arms race College Athletics has become..... I don't think anyone thinks this is a good thing
The sad reality is that no matter how much money Hoosiers Connect and Hoosiers For Good comes up with and spends on football players, Indiana is never going to break into the upper echelon of the Big 10. Not as long as Michigan, Ohio St., Penn St., Michigan St. and Iowa are around.

Indiana's had 3 winning seasons in the past 30 years. They've finished no higher than tied for 4th in the B1G prior to the conference splitting into two divisions, and no higher than 4th in their division since the B1G went to divisions in 2011 (with the exception of the covid year 2020, where they ended 6-2 and in 2nd place in the East Division). With the exception of the covid year, they've finished above .500 in conference play once in 30 years. They've only been to 5 bowl games in the past 30 years, and they lost all 5.

It's an arms race that Indiana is never going to win, or never even come close to being in the upper echelon. Yet, their supporters are going to shell out millions over the next few years. At what point in the next few years are those supporters going to say "why are we doing this?" It's just not a sustainable model.

And I'm not picking on Indiana, just responding to the post about IU. You can substitute any lower level team in a P4 conference - Rutgers, Illinois, Vanderbilt, Syracuse, Boston College, Arizona St., etc.
 
The sad reality is that no matter how much money Hoosiers Connect and Hoosiers For Good comes up with and spends on football players, Indiana is never going to break into the upper echelon of the Big 10. Not as long as Michigan, Ohio St., Penn St., Michigan St. and Iowa are around.

Indiana's had 3 winning seasons in the past 30 years. They've finished no higher than tied for 4th in the B1G prior to the conference splitting into two divisions, and no higher than 4th in their division since the B1G went to divisions in 2011 (with the exception of the covid year 2020, where they ended 6-2 and in 2nd place in the East Division). With the exception of the covid year, they've finished above .500 in conference play once in 30 years. They've only been to 5 bowl games in the past 30 years, and they lost all 5.

It's an arms race that Indiana is never going to win, or never even come close to being in the upper echelon. Yet, their supporters are going to shell out millions over the next few years. At what point in the next few years are those supporters going to say "why are we doing this?" It's just not a sustainable model.

And I'm not picking on Indiana, just responding to the post about IU. You can substitute any lower level team in a P4 conference - Rutgers, Illinois, Vanderbilt, Syracuse, Boston College, Arizona St., etc.
A lot of logic there, but you're acting as if IU's donors haven't been contributing to the school's athletic department for generations notwithstanding all the losing. As J-Money just said, the core of this isn't new. Schools with donors who give a lot of money will have more ways to attract players than schools that don't. The only difference with the coming of NIL is how much money and to whom you write the check.
 
I think there l is a chance to get talented young players from P5. Why go to BC and sit on the bench for three years? Come here and play. You blow up? U can leave.
Maybe. But in many ways this system hurts players, especially high school kids. There is evidence of this in basketball already. Guys who once would go to, say, Manhattan, end up not playing or at non-scholarship D3 places because the spots are taken by portal guys from UMass.

I’m guessing football is similar. Instead of recruiting 20 freshman teams are now bringing in 12-24 and filling other slots with portal guys. Colorado hasn’t recruited any! Though It especially hurts the G5 recruits I suspect.
 
Beginning to see the end of College Football. We are the minor leagues and the big boys just buy the players. It's no longer a level playing field, the have and the have nots. Rich get richer! This has been horrible day to be a UConn football fan and I can't even imagine what the UConn coaches and staff are feeling! I hope we survive this crappy NIL and portal mess!
 
People embracing the idea of becoming Alabama’s development league team is disgusting. Why don’t we just rebrand the university as “Alabama Jr” at that point? Cowards.
 
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