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UConn may play NC State on Dec. 5th at Mohegan; Florida game in doubt

Zionn said:
Just random but would anyone have interest in retaining an ongoing AAC "rivalry"? Maybe Memphis or Cincy?

I always enjoyed keeping old BE foes as part of the OOC schedule.
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Cinci definitely. I wouldn't mind Memphis occasionally.

Now that we're playing at Villanova every year, Temple doesn't bring much to the table.
 
shizzle787 said:
In future years I would like us to try to schedule brutal out of conference so that as long as we win 18 games total we're in. A typical year should look something like this.

3-game MTE
Florida (H)
Ohio State (A)
Arizona (H)
Tennessee (A)
Yale (H)
Harvard (H)
Quinnipiac (H)
Iona (H)
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Looks great on paper but we are now in a conference that will boost our strength of schedule so we don't need or want a loaded non conference schedule.
 
Why do any of you want anything to do with that conference, we spent years begging to get out of it and you guys want home and homes with AAC schools? There are a whole bunch of good basketball schools we can play that will bring eyeballs. None of those schools are in our recruiting footprint, none are natural rivals, and none really move the needle and bring a lot of eyeballs.
 
superjohn said:
Why do any of you want anything to do with that conference, we spent years begging to get out of it and you guys want home and homes with AAC schools? There are a whole bunch of good basketball schools we can play that will bring eyeballs. None of those schools are in our recruiting footprint, none are natural rivals, and none really move the needle and bring a lot of eyeballs.
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To add to what you said, we can be more selective as to the H/H series that we play because of the trajectory that we are on. We will be the team that benefits their OOC schedule.
 
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superjohn said:
Why do any of you want anything to do with that conference, we spent years begging to get out of it and you guys want home and homes with AAC schools? There are a whole bunch of good basketball schools we can play that will bring eyeballs. None of those schools are in our recruiting footprint, none are natural rivals, and none really move the needle and bring a lot of eyeballs.
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We had very memorable games with Cinci over the years. They provide a tough out of conference challenge. They were also in the Big East with us at one point. It's irrational to treat Cinci as if they are ECU or Tulane. I love being back in the Big East, but I'd be more excited to watch a home and home series with Cinci, than I am to watch us play Depaul.

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We've played Cinci 30 times. We're 14-16, (average score of 67-66). I'd love the opportunity for UConn to get that up over .500.
 
Worrying about the schedule this year is pointless.

There are games scheduled that will never be played and there are games that will be played that are not scheduled.

If someone told me that we will end up playing Sacred Heart five times, I would not dismiss the possibility.
 
WingU-Conn said:
We had very memorable games with Cinci over the years. They provide a tough out of conference challenge. They were also in the Big East with us at one point. It's irrational to treat Cinci as if they are ECU or Tulane. I love being back in the Big East, but I'd be more excited to watch a home and home series with Cinci, than I am to watch us play Depaul.

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We've played Cinci 30 times. We're 14-16, (average score of 67-66). I'd love the opportunity for UConn to get that up over .500.
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DePaul is on our conference slate so that's irrelevant. We already will play DePaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, and Xavier for home and homes...we have our fill of Midwest teams.

Cinci only was considered a rival because we both got sent to purgatory. We had some close rockfights but that isn't a rivalry, it's more evidence of how how bad things got for UConn basketball. I want nothing to do with the AAC going forward, would rather pretend none of it ever happened.
 
I lump the former BE and AAC teams that could appear on the OOC schedule into 3 categories:

Regular:
Syracuse, BC, Pitt

Occasionally:
Rutgers, Notre Dame, Louisville, UCF, Miami

One off:
Cincinnati, Memphis, USF
 
superjohn said:
DePaul is on our conference slate so that's irrelevant. We already will play DePaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, and Xavier for home and homes...we have our fill of Midwest teams.

Cinci only was considered a rival because we both got sent to purgatory. We had some close rockfights but that isn't a rivalry, it's more evidence of how how bad things got for UConn basketball. I want nothing to do with the AAC going forward, would rather pretend none of it ever happened.
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I didn't say I wanted to play them for their location. Unless you're talking about recruits within a reasonable driving distance (6-8 hours I suppose), I don't think the location of games is really meaningful. If location is important, it's going to be the location of your school, and your conference opponents, not the schools you play OOC that matters.

It's not irrelevant for me to point out that I'm more interested in watching us play Cinci (who isn't on the schedule) than I am Depaul (who is). We're talking about who we'd like to see us play. I'm pointing out that not every Big East opponent is exciting.

I didn't say they were a rival.

I said we had lots of close games, we did. And that they were fun to watch, for me, they were.

I don't care if you disagree, but you asked why, and there's your answer. You're not changing my mind. You can pretend whatever you want to pretend. I'm basing my opinion on reality.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
It's not irrelevant for me to point out that I'm more interested in watching us play Cinci (who isn't on the schedule) than I am Depaul (who is). We're talking about who we'd like to see us play. I'm pointing out that not every Big East opponent is exciting.
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depaul is going to be much better than cincy going forward. they have the #5 recruiting class for 2021 which is even higher than ours. you should be excited to see us play them, whether it's in CT or Chicago
 
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WingU-Conn said:
I didn't say I wanted to play them for their location. Unless you're talking about recruits within a reasonable driving distance (6-8 hours I suppose), I don't think the location of games is really meaningful. If location is important, it's going to be the location of your school, and your conference opponents, not the schools you play OOC that matters.

It's not irrelevant for me to point out that I'm more interested in watching us play Cinci (who isn't on the schedule) than I am Depaul (who is). We're talking about who we'd like to see us play. I'm pointing out that not every Big East opponent is exciting.

I didn't say they were a rival.

I said we had lots of close games, we did. And that they were fun to watch, for me, they were.

I don't care if you disagree, but you asked why, and there's your answer. You're not changing my mind. You can pretend whatever you want to pretend. I'm basing my opinion on reality.
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It's irrelevant because we are playing DePaul because they are in our conference, we don't have a choice in that just like we had no choice in playing Cinci when we were both in the AAC. I don't think you want to go back to the AAC.
 
superjohn said:
It's irrelevant because we are playing DePaul because they are in our conference, we don't have a choice in that just like we had no choice in playing Cinci when we were both in the AAC. I don't think you want to go back to the AAC.
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It's only irrelevant to you because you choose not to accept someone saying they're not excited to watch us play them. I've never said we had a choice in the matter. Simply saying I'd rather see us play a team not scheduled, than see us play a team we have to play. I never said we had to pick between the two. I'm just comparing the level of excitement. I think you're choosing to be obtuse here.

I never said I wanted to go back to the AAC, but your responses seem to indicate you're equating someone being agreeable to playing 1 or 2 AAC teams every few years as wanting to be affiliated with the AAC.

Which is strange.
 
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bendm said:
depaul is going to be much better than cincy going forward. they have the #5 recruiting class for 2021 which is even higher than ours. you should be excited to see us play them, whether it's in CT or Chicago
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They're picked at the bottom of the Big East, and Leitao hasn't exactly lit it up anywhere he's been.

But fine, substitute St. John's for Depaul if you want. Same thing.
 
WingU-Conn said:
It's only irrelevant to you because you choose not to accept someone saying they're not excited to watch us play them. I've never said we had a choice in the matter. Simply saying I'd rather see us play a team not scheduled, than see us play a team we have to play. I never said we had to pick between the two. I'm just comparing the level of excitement. I think you're choosing to be obtuse here.

I never said I wanted to go back to the AAC, but your responses seem to indicate you're equating someone being agreeable to playing 1 or 2 AAC teams every few years as wanting to be affiliated with the AAC.

Which is strange.
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Wow, you're still not getting it.
 
Playing Cincinnati would be fun. They're always a good team, and we developed a providence level rivalry with them. They're the only school I'd do a home and home with.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
substitute St. John's for Depaul if you want. Same thing.
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1) the class of 2021 is still gonna be in high school this season; 2) we're not talking about this season anyways; 3) we're talking about future matchups against ooc opponents; 4) depaul is recruiting better than any aac team right now but we arent choosing between cincy or memphis and depaul idk why you even brought depaul up; 5) we'd rather play any other p5 in our recruiting footprint than cincy
 
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bendm said:
1) the class of 2021 has nothing to do with the discussion; 2) we're not talking about this season anyways; so I'm not sure why I brought it up 3) we're not only talking about future matchups against ooc opponents; but our level of excitement for current and potential games 4) depaul's recruiting is great, but Dave Leitao is still the coach, so the jury is out on any improvements on the court. Thankfully you didn't argue that we were choosing between cincy or memphis and depaul, sadly I can't seem to understand that you're simply comparing your level of excitement for one team that is on the schedule versus another team that could be on the schedule 5) even though I'd rather play any other p5 in our recruiting footprint than cincy, the question wasn't asked whether we would give up any other p5 in our recruiting footprint in favor of Cinci, but simply whether or not we'd like to see Cinci or Memphis on the schedule. So in hindsight, I'm not sure why I made that point.
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If people want to throw out P5 teams they'd rather play instead of Cinci, I'm 100% certain I'd agree on some of them.

But the question was "do we mind playing Cinci/Memphis".

The question was not "which P5 games are you getting rid of so we can play Cinci".

That's a different answer.

I'd rather play Cinci than Yale. Sue me.
 
WingU-Conn said:
If people want to throw out P5 teams they'd rather play instead of Cinci, I'm 100% certain I'd agree on some of them.

But the question was "do we mind playing Cinci/Memphis".

The question was not "which P5 games are you getting rid of so we can play Cinci".

That's a different answer.

I'd rather play Cinci than Yale. Sue me.
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then why did you compare cincy to depaul in the first place? thats what started all of this and they arent substitutes....and my point was even if they were substitutes depaul will be the better program in the future.

obviously we'd rather play cincy than a cupcake. thanks captain obvious. likewise we should rather play any p5 in our recruiting footprint over a midmajor aac program. even rutgers and BC would attract more exposure and they have the "old BE" connection too if that's your thing
 
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bendm said:
then why did you compare cincy to depaul in the first place? thats what started all of this and they arent substitutes....and my point was even if they were substitutes depaul will be the better program in the future.

obviously we'd rather play cincy than a cupcake. thanks captain obvious. likewise we should rather play any p5 in our recruiting footprint over a midmajor program from the aac. even rutgers and BC would attract more exposure and they have the "old BE" connection too if that's your thing
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That's not what started this. What started this was @superjohn creating this wild notion that simply being agreeable to seeing Cinci on our schedule means we're longing to go back to the AAC. We've played Harvard, Yale, and Columbia recently, are people confusing us with the Ivy League now?

I brought up the fact there are teams we have no choice in playing that don't excite people too. Because while there is enthusiasm for playing in the Big East, it's not like they are all exciting programs. Just because we couldn't wait to escape the AAC, it doesn't mean Cinci doesn't deserve better. I'm sorry if it's just too complicated for you to grasp.

Okay, you'd rather play Rutgers or BC, cool. I've got no problem with that.

If your argument is "there are better teams to play". Then I'd just respond as you did. "thanks Captain Obvious".

The question was do we want to play them? I wouldn't mind replacing some teams on our OOC with them. Maybe you do. That's fine too.

You guys are creating strawmen to argue with. It's tiresome.
 
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I wouldn’t hate playing cinci but I don’t think anyone will feel a loss if we don’t. Without mick around the rivalry wasn’t going to as strong anymore anyway in my opinion.
 
NC State is picked preseason #8 in the ACC...they were hurt by losing top 50 Josh Hall to entering draft as well as Funderburke...and they have questions at Point Guard.

Point play might be their weak point.
 
WingU-Conn said:
That's not what started this. What started this was @superjohn creating this wild notion that simply being agreeable to seeing Cinci on our schedule means we're longing to go back to the AAC. We've played Harvard, Yale, and Columbia recently, are people confusing us with the Ivy League now?

I brought up the fact there are teams we have no choice in playing that don't excite people too. Because while there is enthusiasm for playing in the Big East, it's not like they are all exciting programs. Just because we couldn't wait to escape the AAC, it doesn't mean Cinci doesn't deserve better. I'm sorry if it's just too complicated for you to grasp.

Okay, you'd rather play Rutgers or BC, cool. I've got no problem with that.

If your argument is "there are better teams to play". Then I'd just respond as you did. "thanks Captain Obvious".

The question was do we want to play them? I wouldn't mind replacing some teams on our OOC with them. Maybe you do. That's fine too.

You guys are creating strawmen to argue with. It's tiresome.
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You're the one who brought it up. It's not relevant because Depaul is in our conference and Cinci is not. I would've rather seen us play most other teams in the country instead of the AAC teams we had to play the past 6-7 years. Now that we're in the Big East we will play a bunch of teams people want to see us play and we have a choice of trying to setup matches with teams from all over the country to fill our schedule. I would much rather see us play teams like Maryland, Syracuse, Michigan State etc. than I would Cincinnati.

So no, you wanting to play Cinci over DePaul and St. John's isn't at all relevant to the discussion. I don't see why you can't understand this.
 
Temple, Cuse, Pitt, and Cincinnati would be it. I would rather play a Duke, NC or Kansas than any other old AAC team
 
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