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For the foreseeable future, UConn will be in the American.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
Sorry, but there will be no teams added to the SEC in a state that already has a team. The SEC already has the most popular teams in each of our states except for Texas. A lesser team from any of those states adds nothing to the TV market footprint. For example, in South Carolina, Clemson has the plurality of fans in 2 counties and USC in 44 counties.

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Keep living your dream. FSU was champion this year. Fla State wins again in the near term and/or continues to outperform Florida then it's just flat out wrong to call Fla State "a lesser team."

And the last two years Clemson has had higher recruiting rankings than USC despite Clemson being in an inferior football conference. How long will Spurrier hang on and then how far will USC continue to drop? As of right now USC superior to Clemson - sure. But if they accepted two Texas schools they'll easily accept two schools from Fla and maybe SC.

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings?class=2014

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings?class=2015
 
AAU membership isn't about academics.
AAU membership is about research dollars and the money that brings into the schools.
and U.S. News & World's list doesn't address the latter at all.
 
stamfordhusky said:
I'd love to see it happen - but you are 100% correct. Maybe 5-7 years from now if the landscape changes a lot.
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5-7 years? Doubt it's that far out. However, UCONN will pretty much go wherever they are invited and it's not like we want to stay in the AAC. The Big 10, SEC, ACC - if they decide to make moves any time soon, the domino's will eventually affect UCONN favorably. Of course we all wish it were sooner than later, but I don't think it will be in 5-7 years. But maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part... We will see - nothing we as fans can do except go out and support all our teams, especially the football program.
 
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Nobody really knows what the ACC, B1G, SEC or the Big12 will do. All is just speculation.

So here's to the football program showing some serious play. That's what we need right now.

As to the rest, just support Uconn.
 
hoophuskee said:
Keep living your dream. FSU was champion this year. Fla State wins again in the near term and/or continues to outperform Florida then it's just flat out wrong to call Fla State "a lesser team."

And the last two years Clemson has had higher recruiting rankings than USC despite Clemson being in an inferior football conference. How long will Spurrier hang on and then how far will USC continue to drop? As of right now USC superior to Clemson - sure. But if they accepted two Texas schools they'll easily accept two schools from Fla and maybe SC.

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings?class=2014

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings?class=2015
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FSU may have a better team right now, but Florida has, by far, the bigger fan base, and it's all about money.

South Carolina has beaten Clemson 5 years in a row; we have better facilities, more money and a bigger fan base. Clemson would add nothing to the SEC.
 
hoophuskee said:
Keep living your dream. FSU was champion this year. Fla State wins again in the near term and/or continues to outperform Florida then it's just flat out wrong to call Fla State "a lesser team."
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Nah, he's right - Florida State is a distant second in the state of Florida. The SEC turned Florida State down early in 2013 prior to the ACC signing a grant of rights - adding FSU doesn't help the SEC with its new network as it's already the dominant player in the state. In terms of fan support, Florida is one of the top 5-7 programs in the country.
 
Fishy said:
Nah, he's right - Florida State is a distant second in the state of Florida. The SEC turned Florida State down early in 2013 prior to the ACC signing a grant of rights - adding FSU doesn't help the SEC with its new network as it's already the dominant player in the state. In terms of fan support, Florida is one of the top 5-7 programs in the country.
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Nah - As I stated if FSU makes another title run - then popularity runs to winners. And just becuase Fla is "more popular" now means "nothing." FSU is/will be especially attractive if they do as I state is possible- win another title soon and Fla doesn't do much then "then the fickle popularity polls" will continue to rise for FSU. There would be no reason why they wouldn't want two Fla teams similar to having two Texas teams.

Mark it down - FSU gets next call from SEC whenever they decide. There is no reason to not have two super teams in hot bed Fla. FSU if- they beat the SEC again for a title or God-fobid the SEC doesn't play in a title game while their neighbor FSU does - they will call FSU eventually.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
FSU may have a better team right now, but Florida has, by far, the bigger fan base, and it's all about money.

South Carolina has beaten Clemson 5 years in a row; we have better facilities, more money and a bigger fan base. Clemson would add nothing to the SEC.
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FSU has a better team right now - right. So you are backing away from your "inferior" statement, right? Just wanted to point out Fla State is NOT inferior as you suggetsed to Fla right now, right?

Fans are fickle they gravitate to winners.And if your statement of Fla being more popular held much value then Fla State wouldn't have outrecruited them two staright years unless you know they'll beat Fla State down over next two years after this?

Fact is- if you are in the SEC - you are popular. If Fla State remains better and wins another title soon, their poularity rises and if Fla isn't threatening for a title, we'll see your Fla popularity poll dwindle a bit more. Now put Fla State in the SEC for a couple of years- let's see how much more popular Fla is after those years.

And you replied to me about USC vs. Clemson but your reply doesn't mean much. You disregarded my statement of Spurrier. If you don't think losing Spurrier at some point will have an impact (or as he ages he loses "something") then we can agree to disgree. Your statement of what the two teams have done with Spurrier has NOTHING to do with my point if/when he goes or ages and begins to slip.
 
hoophuskee said:
FSU has a better team right now - right. So you are backing away from your "inferior" statement, right? Just wanted to point out Fla State is NOT inferior as you suggetsed to Fla right now, right? . . . if your statement of Fla being more popular held much value . . . .And you replied to me about USC vs. Clemson but your reply doesn't mean much . . . [etc.] . . .
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He's just expressing his opinion, as are you. Sounds like you're taking it personally.

I'm guessing that sometime during the last twenty years you might have been wrong about
something.
 
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ericsandiego said:
5-7 years? Doubt it's that far out. However, UCONN will pretty much go wherever they are invited and it's not like we want to stay in the AAC. The Big 10, SEC, ACC - if they decide to make moves any time soon, the domino's will eventually affect UCONN favorably. Of course we all wish it were sooner than later, but I don't think it will be in 5-7 years. But maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part... We will see - nothing we as fans can do except go out and support all our teams, especially the football program.
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When I said 5-7 yrs , I was specifically addressing the Big 10 rumor. Actually I think that may be optimistic for any chance for that league. ACC could be sooner, however, if some dominos fall the right way.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
FSU may have a better team right now, but Florida has, by far, the bigger fan base, and it's all about money.

South Carolina has beaten Clemson 5 years in a row; we have better facilities, more money and a bigger fan base. Clemson would add nothing to the SEC.
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Dont understand why some people just cannot understand that. They all must live up north or something. ;) I can't think of a state in which the Land-Grant university is more popular than the "Flagship" university. USCarolina, Texas, UNC, UVA, Michigan, Oklahoma, Indiana, Kansas, Iowa, Oregon...et al ..have more fans and money than their counterparts in their respective states.
 
Being Old School a romantic of sorts, and having disdain for the EXTREME pursuit of the dollar, I'd like to see us stay put and help The American improve. Seems to me we have a commitment of sorts. And, just as athletes are role models, so are universities.
 
TRI: depends what sort of "popular" you mean. For example, Purdue had a long run where they seemed, or seem, to be a strong rival to IU on several dimensions.......similar in undergrad size, I believe.....Purdue has dominated on the gridiron by about 2/1.....not sure about research dollars, but I know Purdue brings in a lot of it.
 
winlots said:
Being Old School a romantic of sorts, and having disdain for the EXTREME pursuit of the dollar, I'd like to see us stay put and help The American improve. Seems to me we have a commitment of sorts. And, just as athletes are role models, so are universities.
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Every school is looking out for itself, and only itself. Including every school in the AAC.

After carrying the Big East for the better part of two decades, UConn pretty much got left for dead by a bunch of schools that haven't accomplished half as much. The idea that UConn owes the American anything is kind of absurd - they should (and will) jump at the first chance for greener pastures.
 
ed4ourgirls said:
He's just expressing his opinion, as are you. Sounds like you're taking it personally.

I'm guessing that sometime during the last twenty years you might have been wrong about
something.
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And I can say the same about you. It seems like you don't want me to disagree. What did I say that was so bad? Can't I disagree with his opinion?
 
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The real point is to understand media economics. The SEC already has a major media presence in Florida. Adding FSU only marginally enhances something that already exists. (People can--and do--watch both UF and FSU games.) On the other hand, the SEC at present has no foothold in, say, North Carolina. The media economic boost from adding UNC to the SEC would be many multiples of the advantage netted by adding FSU, as it breaks wholly new ground, establishes them in a market where they simply don't exist at present. Comparative advantage is the game. Expansion extensively rather than intensively adds the most TV sets and eyeballs. (I'm also drawing a blank on what this second Texas team the SEC has might be, aTm and ??? If you're talking UT, that's the "killer app" of college athletics and everything is different where the Longhorns are concerned.)
 
rocky rococo said:
The real point is to understand media economics. The SEC already has a major media presence in Florida. Adding FSU only marginally enhances something that already exists. (People can--and do--watch both UF and FSU games.) On the other hand, the SEC at present has no foothold in, say, North Carolina. The media economic boost from adding UNC to the SEC would be many multiples of the advantage netted by adding FSU, as it breaks wholly new ground, establishes them in a market where they simply don't exist at present. Comparative advantage is the game. Expansion extensively rather than intensively adds the most TV sets and eyeballs. (I'm also drawing a blank on what this second Texas team the SEC has might be, aTm and ??? If you're talking UT, that's the "killer app" of college athletics and everything is different where the Longhorns are concerned.)
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Well here in ACC country.... the SEC stands for Sure Everybody Cheats..... so UNC would be a natural target if they ever decided to expand :rolleyes:
 
rocky rococo said:
The real point is to understand media economics. The SEC already has a major media presence in Florida. Adding FSU only marginally enhances something that already exists. (People can--and do--watch both UF and FSU games.) On the other hand, the SEC at present has no foothold in, say, North Carolina. The media economic boost from adding UNC to the SEC would be many multiples of the advantage netted by adding FSU, as it breaks wholly new ground, establishes them in a market where they simply don't exist at present. Comparative advantage is the game. Expansion extensively rather than intensively adds the most TV sets and eyeballs. (I'm also drawing a blank on what this second Texas team the SEC has might be, aTm and ??? If you're talking UT, that's the "killer app" of college athletics and everything is different where the Longhorns are concerned.)
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Exactly; which is why a future SEC expansion would likely be in North Carolina and Virginia.
 
triaddukefan said:
Dont understand why some people just cannot understand that. They all must live up north or something. ;) I can't think of a state in which the Land-Grant university is more popular than the "Flagship" university. USCarolina, Texas, UNC, UVA, Michigan, Oklahoma, Indiana, Kansas, Iowa, Oregon...et al ..have more fans and money than their counterparts in their respective states.
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Is Virginia football really more popular than Va Tech? I know it's just last year and only one measure but last year's attendance figures show that Va Tech drew 17,000 more people per game than UVa.
 
rocky rococo said:
The real point is to understand media economics. The SEC already has a major media presence in Florida. Adding FSU only marginally enhances something that already exists. (People can--and do--watch both UF and FSU games.) On the other hand, the SEC at present has no foothold in, say, North Carolina. The media economic boost from adding UNC to the SEC would be many multiples of the advantage netted by adding FSU, as it breaks wholly new ground, establishes them in a market where they simply don't exist at present. Comparative advantage is the game. Expansion extensively rather than intensively adds the most TV sets and eyeballs. (I'm also drawing a blank on what this second Texas team the SEC has might be, aTm and ??? If you're talking UT, that's the "killer app" of college athletics and everything is different where the Longhorns are concerned.)
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You're right - I thought there were two. My bad.

We can agree to disagree though now your point hit home but don't agree with it.

In business you look to take out the competition. Th other states you get won't have as large of an impact vs. winning.

Dwight Howard - whom is a commodidty told Melo go to the team (i.e. school) that you can win with- the money will follow. He said he got nothing being in media market of LA. He said he'll get his enodrsements by winning. SEC will make ther money with FSU as well. They'll be putting a crushing blow to the ACC - a competitor.
 
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Wally East said:
Is Virginia football really more popular than Va Tech? I know it's just last year and only one measure but last year's attendance figures show that Va Tech drew 17,000 more people per game than UVa.
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Football is more popular at Virginia Tech and basketball is more popular at Virginia. There are a few exceptions to the rule, but in 80% of cases, the flagship university is going to have a larger fan base.
 
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hoophuskee said:
Fact is- if you are in the SEC - you are popular. If Fla State remains better and wins another title soon, their poularity rises and if Fla isn't threatening for a title, we'll see your Fla popularity poll dwindle a bit more. Now put Fla State in the SEC for a couple of years- let's see how much more popular Fla is after those years.
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And that is probably the biggest reason FL St won't be in the SEC. They are not going to intentionally hurt one of their biggest brands.
 
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