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Friarsnoop said:
I've always thought this is the stupidest argument you guys have on this board. Whether you win it this year or not, the blue bloods will never consider you one of them. Just enjoy the journey and the championships.
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Here’s the good news the fact you came here from Dunkin Donuts to point this out tells me all I need to know. We ARE blue bloods and you guys suck!!!

Thanks for your interest in UConn basketball!
 
Of course we are blue bloods. We were cast into the abyss and came back. No other program had to deal with that nonsense. Our story is unprecedented. The deniers need to go to the back of the bus with the HH's.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I think this is partially the reason for so many coaching retirements recently, or coaches like Boeheim no longer being able to compete. Calipari and Pearl are spiraling. The top teams can no longer stockpile talent, and players do not have to put up with lousy coaching. Furthermore, the cheater programs (Kentucky, Auburn for example) no longer have an advantage because everyone can pay their players.

I started a thread on the football board on this topic. I think the programs that will be successful going forward will be urban or close to cities. Legacy will matter a little, but nothing like it did before. Selling high school recruits will be less important than evaluating and selling transfers. Keeping the bench happy will be very important. One coach that could struggle in this world is Geno. He would play just 5 players if it was possible. That approach won't work going forward.
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The playing field is being leveled. Totally correct with your comments. It’s a new era and the days of hard line coaches controlling players are over. Women’s game is not in the same place yet. Personally, I think Geno wants at least one more NC before he retires. The days of 3-4 teams dominating every year are coming to an end.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
UConn made its 6th Final Four in the last 25 years. UConn has been in 24% of the Final Fours starting with the 1998-1999 season. UConn has done this with three different coaches, which is just as impressive. Most programs that have made Final Fours with more than one or two coaches have needed decades and decades to do it. Indiana is an example.

UConn has been in 11 of the last 34 Elite 8's. That is an amazing statistic going back a long way. UConn has finished the season with one of the 8 best teams in the country about 1/3 of the time.

If this team can win two more games, UConn would join UNC, Kentucky and Kansas as the only programs to have won Championships with three different coaches. Kansas and UNC have to look back to the 1950's to find their third coach's championship. Kentucky has an impressive 5 different coaches winning championships, although not surprisingly, Calipari only has one ring.

UConn is in pretty rarified company with this track record. UConn is a Blue Blood.
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And they don't go to just go to Final Fours. They win national titles. This will be the 6th trip, and if they take care of business, it will be the 5th title. Tied for 4th all time.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I think that with NIL and the Transfer Portal, the era of the Blue Blood program is probably ending. Talent will be spread out, and there are a lot more FAU's and SDSU's or Creighton's making the Final 8 and Final 4 in the future.
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Disagree. The $$ will be consolidated into ~20 schools. Not even every school in the top P2 will keep up.
 
Same argument I had about Indiana applies to some of the other schools in that you count final 4snas a raw number... but wouldn't context matter? Id guess most people say winning 4 games to get to a final 4 is more impressive than winning 1 or 2 games?

The degree or difficulty, luck and random variance in making a final 4 or a title in the modern 64+ era to me is a whole hell lot more impressive than say Indianas's 1940 title when 8 teams were in the tournament, not to mention the sport was either fully segregated or essentially segregated.
 
We are the northeast, supremely talented, tough, don’t give a %#*+ squad who beats the blue bloods in big moments. Tough PGs and superstars throughout the last 30 years

We are not relying on a different tournament structure (UCLA), a mediocre conference (Gonzaga), the GOAT repping our school (Jordan with UNC) or ONE coach (MSU, Duke) to be this great.

They can hate us for it, and good. %#^* em

On to number 5# in less than 25 years
 
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Everyone has a different definition for blue blood, so I guess it depends on how you define it (most of the Kentucky fans in that thread believed UConn was absolutely a blue blood). To me, UConn is easily one of the best 10 programs of of the post-Wooden era (in no particular order: UConn, Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, North Carolina, UCLA (mainly because of Wooden), Villanova). They win their 5th National Title, they are in rarified air indeed. Moreover, with Hurley at the helm, they can get to the Final Four again in the coming years. Lots to look forward to, so I am not going to worry about the blue blood debate. Safe to say, UConn is in the hierarchy of mens (and womens) basketball.
 
I'm enjoying the hell out of this run and I love the hardware we've accumulated to date.

Whether those somewhat involved with the sport view us as blue blood or not doesn't matter. If fans of one of the alleged members of that society views us as outsiders or insiders doesn't matter.

I don't need their approval and I'm not really sure what we would actually get if we receive their acceptance.

We have a nice number of trophies and valid reason to believe there will be more to come (not just this year). That works for me.
 
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bendm said:
www.espn.com

Shooting, missing and finding (in the numbers) a men's national champion

What do the analytics say about who has won the 64 games so far, and who will win the final three?
www.espn.com www.espn.com

greenberg adamant UConn a blue blood. i dont know if the proper video from espn will embed in the linked article.
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The article, though, is pretty good, and gives the ideal Miami scenario: we go a bit cold, and Miami is able to generate enough non-3pt looks. Always possible in a football-stadium converted setting.
 
sdglast said:
Everyone has a different definition for blue blood, so I guess it depends on how you define it (most of the Kentucky fans in that thread believed UConn was absolutely a blue blood). To me, UConn is easily one of the best 10 programs of of the post-Wooden era (in no particular order: UConn, Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, North Carolina, UCLA (mainly because of Wooden), Villanova). They win their 5th National Title, they are in rarified air indeed. Moreover, with Hurley at the helm, they can get to the Final Four again in the coming years. Lots to look forward to, so I am not going to worry about the blue blood debate. Safe to say, UConn is in the hierarchy of mens (and womens) basketball.
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Last 33 years, they've gotten to 11 Elite 8s. That's 3rd in the NCAA.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
UConn made its 6th Final Four in the last 25 years. UConn has been in 24% of the Final Fours starting with the 1998-1999 season. UConn has done this with three different coaches, which is just as impressive. Most programs that have made Final Fours with more than one or two coaches have needed decades and decades to do it. Indiana is an example.

UConn has been in 11 of the last 34 Elite 8's. That is an amazing statistic going back a long way. UConn has finished the season with one of the 8 best teams in the country about 1/3 of the time.

If this team can win two more games, UConn would join UNC, Kentucky and Kansas as the only programs to have won Championships with three different coaches. Kansas and UNC have to look back to the 1950's to find their third coach's championship. Kentucky has an impressive 5 different coaches winning championships, although not surprisingly, Calipari only has one ring.

UConn is in pretty rarified company with this track record. UConn is a Blue Blood.
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I am sooooo tired of the blue blood nonsense. When we`re winning we are, when we`re not, we`re not. At this point i really could not give a squirt of rats pisss just keep getting to final 4s and winning chips.
 
tzznandrew said:
The article, though, is pretty good, and gives the ideal Miami scenario: we go a bit cold, and Miami is able to generate enough non-3pt looks. Always possible in a football-stadium converted setting.
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We are shooting the eyes out of the ball right now. I think I read 44% from 3 as a team for the tourney.

I am going to probably have a meltdown if Alleyne or Calcaterra clank their first three. But this group strikes me as one that’s going to keep hammering until they fall.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
We are shooting the eyes out of the ball right now. I think I read 44% from 3 as a team for the tourney.

I am going to probably have a meltdown if Alleyne or Calcaterra clank their first three. But this group strikes me as one that’s going to keep hammering until they fall.
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I agree. But I think the only way UConn loses the way they've been playing is a worse than usual performance from 3 and maybe foul trouble on Jackson and Newton. They went 7 for 25 against Marquette and still only lost by 2 (to a team significantly better than Miami).

EDIT: Also, it's 41.8% from 3 in the tournament (41 for 98), which is amazing and not likely sustainable.
 
I’d rather not be a blue blood.

This program is about overcoming obstacles , long established hoops paradigms , new money as good as old if not better , left behind by conference realignment , relatively underfunded, that has kicked down doors with Calhoun and Hurley. We should reject and renounce any calls for blue blood status. Like Groucho Marx said ‘i refuse to join a club that would have me as a member.’
 
temery said:
I guessed, but I'm still right.

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Your correct if you are comparing apples to apples. But we have been screwed by conference alignment and being stuck in the AAC. The so called Blue Bloods have stability and tons of money pouring into their athletic departments.

One could say we are on a higher plane than these schools because we have recovered from the depths of basketball hell. Hats off to the athletic department and hats off to Coach Hurley.

We are not a Blue Blood but The Royal Blue Blood.
 
Skiblets said:
I’d rather not be a blue blood.

This program is about overcoming obstacles , long established hoops paradigms , new money as good as old if not better , left behind by conference realignment , relatively underfunded, that has kicked down doors with Calhoun and Hurley. We should reject and renounce any calls for blue blood status. Like Groucho Marx said ‘i refuse to join a club that would have me as a member.’
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Exactly, couldn’t have said it better, I’d rather be Rodney Dangerfield than Ted Knight!!
 
DaMuttzNutt said:
We are the northeast, supremely talented, tough, don’t give a %#*+ squad who beats the blue bloods in big moments. Tough PGs and superstars throughout the last 30 years

We are not relying on a different tournament structure (UCLA), a mediocre conference (Gonzaga), the GOAT repping our school (Jordan with UNC) or ONE coach (MSU, Duke) to be this great.

They can hate us for it, and good. %#^* em

On to number 5# in less than 25 years
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It is kind of fun to be Goliath sometimes.
 
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