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Who's the most overseeded player in the bracket? I loved Purvis, but an 8 seed? Not sure about that when you consider some of the names ranked lower than him - Marcus, Jerome, DHam, Deandre to name a few.
 
CTBasketball said:
Shabazz has 2 championships, 1st Team All-Big East (2013), 1st Team All-AAC (2014), Bob Cousy Award Winner (2014), Final Four MVP (2014), Consensus 1st Team All-America (2014), AAC POY (2014), and Big East All-Rookie Team (2011).

He’s a one seed. The championships set him a step above Ray, even though he was a better player.
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You can honestly justify Shabazz as the #1 overall seed. Talent wise he’s probably a 4 or 5 seed, but as far as accomplishments in his time at UConn, he’s right up there.
 
Burt said:
What about Ray's championship with Boston and becoming the greatest 3 point shooter in NBA history...?
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Burt said:
What about Ray's championship with Boston and becoming the greatest 3 point shooter in NBA history...?
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I’m looking at the bracket from a UConn only perspective, not what they did professionally afterwards.
 
lange10 said:
Who's the most overseeded player in the bracket? I loved Purvis, but an 8 seed? Not sure about that when you consider some of the names ranked lower than him - Marcus, Jerome, DHam, Deandre to name a few.
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Spot on
 
Burt said:
What about Ray's championship with Boston and becoming the greatest 3 point shooter in NBA history...?
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I believe if this is being done by UConn, then it’s based solely on the players’ UConn careers.
 
WingU-Conn said:
To be fair, so did Bazz. His pressure and steals are as important as Emeka's blocks and rim protection. Both were able to alter what the offense wanted to do.

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I'm not saying you're wrong, it's what makes the discussion interesting, once you get past the Sweet 16, a lot of these come down to a coin flip
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I love Shabazz, but he had nowhere near the defensive impact that Okafor did. Don't kid yourself.
 
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I didn't see either play - except in highlights...but the potential Cliff v Corny second round matchup is insane. Legends should meet that early.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I love Shabazz, but he had nowhere near the defensive impact that Okafor did. Don't kid yourself.
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Tell that to the Harrison brothers. Bazz and Boat took them completely out of their game in the national championship.
 
Lots of talk on the top 4 seeds... How about some of these first round matchups

Scott Burrell/Christian Vital
Jeff Adrien/Donny Marshall
AJ Price/Rod Sellers
Taliek Brown/DeAndre Daniels

And plenty more good ones. Tough choices
 
Stlh8L8ner said:
I think if you're going to weigh college and pro careers equally, Kemba is the GOAT.

Then Ray second. I hate to say it because he is a great, great player, and one of my favorites but other than maybe in Seattle, he was never really a focal point on any team.

Guys may have had better college or pro careers but I think Kemba has the best credentials in both.
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He was the best player on the Bucks by 2000 and he led them to the ECF in 2001 where they were robbed of losing to the Lakers in the Finals.
 
Stlh8L8ner said:
I think if you're going to weigh college and pro careers equally, Kemba is the GOAT.

Then Ray second. I hate to say it because he is a great, great player, and one of my favorites but other than maybe in Seattle, he was never really a focal point on any team.

Guys may have had better college or pro careers but I think Kemba has the best credentials in both.
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The bucks? Are you saying Glenn dog was above him in Milwaukee?
 
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8893 said:
If the goal is to determine the Greatest Husky of All Time, I think brackets are not the right way to get there. As @Mano would say, make it a poll, dummy. Take all the #1 and #2 seeds and have people vote among them. Add the #3 seeds if necessary; that's still only 12 options. Anything beyond that is great for seeding discussions/arguments, but really irrelevant to determining the greatest.

Any set of criteria is going to include some intangibles, and certain players are going to suffer from recency bias. Khalid will always be my personal favorite because he was the X-factor, the roux that we needed to make our own special brand of mojo. But no matter how you characterize "Greatest Husky of All Time," if we are talking about embracing everything you would want that to embrace, e.g., winning, grit, representing, etc., I think Kemba wins by a wide margin--all things considered.
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Testing my hypothesis:

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Poll: Greatest Husky of All Time

Men's basketball players only considered. I included all the #1 and #2 seeds from the brackets and listed them in alphabetical order. I was very close to adding Khalid as my personal favorite, but that would have been biased and opened the door to all the #3 seeds, which I don't think is...
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8893 said:
If the goal is to determine the Greatest Husky of All Time, I think brackets are not the right way to get there. As @Mano would say, make it a poll, dummy. Take all the #1 and #2 seeds and have people vote among them. Add the #3 seeds if necessary; that's still only 12 options. Anything beyond that is great for seeding discussions/arguments, but really irrelevant to determining the greatest.

Any set of criteria is going to include some intangibles, and certain players are going to suffer from recency bias. Khalid will always be my personal favorite because he was the X-factor, the roux that we needed to make our own special brand of mojo. But no matter how you characterize "Greatest Husky of All Time," if we are talking about embracing everything you would want that to embrace, e.g., winning, grit, representing, etc., I think Kemba wins by a wide margin--all things considered.
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I’m thinking Okafor.

But again, there aren’t many wrong answers in the top 5-6 players. All have good legitimate cases.
 
Re: Voting - do you print it out and post it or is there a way to pick them electronically? I've been on twitter and facebook and don't see ability to vote.

I do live in Florida whomever asked that to the other person wondering how to vote. :)
 
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I am really questioning my memory. I did not look up any statistics and just went from what I remember. I loved loved loved Bazz, but a #1 seed over Emeka? I remember Okafer being totally dominant at both ends of the floor. He was the rightful national player of the year. I also would have put Donyell Marshall over Bazz, as he was the runner up for national player of the year. It doesn't take away what Shabazz did, but he is not one of the four best Huskies ever (although he did win two national championships).

I didn't look over this entire bracket but would probably question so many. Kevin Ollie was a four year starter on some really good teams Rashad Anderson was a shooter off of the bench. Ollie is a 12, and Anderson a 5?
 
7774 said:
You guys had to be real young when Okafor played right? That's really the only thing that makes sense.
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I'm not saying Shabazz was anywhere near Okafor on a defensive level. Just that he was no slouch himself. And you guessed correctly..I was 8 when Okafor left :D
 
i keep going back and forth between the facebook page and uconnhuskies. seriously, how do you vote? :confused:
 
As far as I'm concerned, Mek should the overall #1. Bazz and Kemba are ones. And I have trouble deciding between Ray and Rip for the last 1 spot.
 
Poe said:
Definitely this. Have to give Bazz the edge over Ray. Ray was great but didn’t deliver a championship.

Also, Kemba and Rip seem to be the unanimous top two players since no one is arguing to bump them off as 1 seeds.
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I would take Ray over Rip by the narrowest of margins for my 4th #1. On odd numbered days, anyway, because I'll probably feel the other way tomorrow.
 
ncteacher said:
I am really questioning my memory. I did not look up any statistics and just went from what I remember. I loved loved loved Bazz, but a #1 seed over Emeka? I remember Okafer being totally dominant at both ends of the floor. He was the rightful national player of the year. I also would have put Donyell Marshall over Bazz, as he was the runner up for national player of the year. It doesn't take away what Shabazz did, but he is not one of the four best Huskies ever (although he did win two national championships).

I didn't look over this entire bracket but would probably question so many. Kevin Ollie was a four year starter on some really good teams Rashad Anderson was a shooter off of the bench. Ollie is a 12, and Anderson a 5?
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Picking 'Yell over Bazz is a mortal sin. I have him getting eliminated in the first round. Punishment for those two free throws.

Recency factor. The disaster that was his last years at the helm and the lawsuit are way fresher in the collective memory of the yard, and all of the Husky Nation for that matter, to think or speak of him in a positive light.
 
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7774 said:
You guys had to be real young when Okafor played right? That's really the only thing that makes sense.
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Because Emeka impacts Bazz's defense how again?
 
7774 said:
No clue what this is supposed to mean.
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I posted about Bazz's defense and you posted that I must have been young when when Emeka played. I didn't, and still don't, see the linkage.
 
CL82 said:
I posted about Bazz's defense and you posted that I must have been young when when Emeka played. I didn't, and still don't, see the linkage.
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Someone posted that Shabazz had nowhere near the defensive impact of Emeka and you responded Tell that to the Harrison brothers, implying that you did think Shabazz had the same defensive impact.

Unless you experienced some severe head trauma in the last 16 years, there is no way you watched the Okafor era as an adult, or even young adult, if you think Shabazz had the same defensive impact as Emeka. Their impact on the defensive end was not even remotely close.
 
7774 said:
Someone posted that Shabazz had nowhere near the defensive impact of Emeka and you responded Tell that to the Harrison brothers, implying that you did think Shabazz had the same defensive impact.

Unless you experienced some severe head trauma in the last 16 years, there is no way you watched the Okafor era as an adult, or even young adult, if you think Shabazz had the same defensive impact as Emeka. Their impact on the defensive end was not even remotely close.
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I guess you never experienced the Reach-around Bandit then!

Seriously though, @CL82 did suffer severe head trauma. We don't like to talk about it; it's kinda rude.
 
7774 said:
Someone posted that Shabazz had nowhere near the defensive impact of Emeka and you responded Tell that to the Harrison brothers, implying that you did think Shabazz had the same defensive impact.

Unless you experienced some severe head trauma in the last 16 years, there is no way you watched the Okafor era as an adult, or even young adult, if you think Shabazz had the same defensive impact as Emeka. Their impact on the defensive end was not even remotely close.
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Nope. My point was that Bazz's defense was a big part of his game. It was, along with Boartright's D a huge part of why we on it all in 2014. Teams just could not run their preferred offense. I guess that it a subtle point that may have missed watching the games.

Pro tip, if you imagine what I mean by assuming that I am "implying" something that I didn't say, go back and reread my post. I'm am typically pretty straight forward.

(Attempt to bolster your point with sophomoric insults duly noted.)
 
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