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Prediction: within three years, SHU will be in ECAC or Hockey East. My choice, as a UConn alum and hockey season ticketholder...…...Hockey East.
 
If I correctly understand your reply...……....thank you. If I have misinterpreted it...…...that's what happens when one ages!
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Any chance UConn owns the land under EO Smith and can simply take back the lease, level it (it needs to be replaced anyway) and build a 12K Basketball/8 K Hockey combo arena there? Freitas becomes the practice arena and can be used by the community, UConn stps playing games at teh XL except during school breaks, and we call get to watch the Mansfield residents go insane?
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8000 is way too big. Thats, like, Mullins Center levels of empty space.
 
If they thought they could sell more seats they would build it bigger. Problem is people complain about going to Storrs.
 
gampelcrazies said:
If they thought they could sell more seats they would build it bigger. Problem is people complain about going to Storrs.
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False....if they had more money they would build it bigger.
 
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gampelcrazies said:
If they thought they could sell more seats they would build it bigger. Problem is people complain about going to Storrs.
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Deuce said:
False....if they had more money they would build it bigger.
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The soccer and baseball programs are finally close to opening their new facilities after many years in the pipeline. These facilities would have opened years earlier if UConn had the financial support to do so. The same financial constraints have an impact on the size and quality of the hockey facility as well.
 
dbmill said:
The soccer and baseball programs are finally close to opening their new facilities after many years in the pipeline. These facilities would have opened years earlier if UConn had the financial support to do so. The same financial constraints have an impact on the size and quality of the hockey facility as well.
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Correct. And both new facilities have fewer seats than originally proposed. It's all about a dearth of $$$.
 
zls44 said:
Decision area says up to 2,700, rest of the doc keeps saying 3,500.

Decision
The University of Connecticut intends to proceed with the Proposed Action, which consists of constructing a
new ice hockey arena on an approximately 12.5-acre site located west of and adjacent to the existing Mark
Edward Freitas Ice Forum on its main campus in Storrs (Mansfield), Connecticut. The site is approximately
half developed today and consists primarily of a surface parking lot (I-Lot), stormwater conveyance, some
wetlands, and rolling, wooded uplands. Construction is anticipated to start in April 2021 and conclude in
Winter 2022/2023.
The Proposed Action consists of the https://media.procurement.uconn.edu...3300173-RFQ/PROJECT-INFORMATION-FORM-REV1.pdf
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zls44 said:
Decision area says up to 2,700, rest of the doc keeps saying 3,500.

Decision
The University of Connecticut intends to proceed with the Proposed Action, which consists of constructing a
new ice hockey arena on an approximately 12.5-acre site located west of and adjacent to the existing Mark
Edward Freitas Ice Forum on its main campus in Storrs (Mansfield), Connecticut. The site is approximately
half developed today and consists primarily of a surface parking lot (I-Lot), stormwater conveyance, some
wetlands, and rolling, wooded uplands. Construction is anticipated to start in April 2021 and conclude in
Winter 2022/2023.
The Proposed Action consists of the following elements:
 Facilities and ice that would meet NCAA Division 1 Ice Hockey requirements, Hockey East
Conference standards, and University guidelines and requirements.
 Up to 2,700 seats, with up to 50% seatback chairs; the balance being benches and rail seats.
 Locker rooms and office space.
 Parking for up to 360 vehicles with a maximum of up to 700 vehicles pending future parking
demand and funding.
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The university recently asked for bids for a construction manager for the rink.
 
UCONNJACK said:
The university recently asked for bids for a construction manager for the rink.
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New info...

>> Scope of Work:

The Project consists but is not limited to the following program elements:

 97,700sf Ice Hockey Facility that will meet NCAA Division 1 Ice Hockey requirements, Hockey East Conference standards, University Design Standards and Performance Guidelines which includes up to 59,750sf ice level, 33,250sf concourse level and dedicated 4,700sf club level.

 Up to 2,700 seats, with approximately 50% seatback chairs; the balance being benches, rail seats and dedicated club level seating and lounge seating. Total minimum capacity with standing room for 3,500 people.

 Locker rooms, strength and conditioning room, training room, coach and office space, concessions areas, team congregational rooms, press area, rail seating around concourse, ice lounge, student deck area, and other equipment and support spaces.

 Core branding and arena experience systems, as well as, infrastructure for future branding and experience system opportunities...<<
 
huskymedic said:
New info...

>> Scope of Work:

The Project consists but is not limited to the following program elements:

 97,700sf Ice Hockey Facility that will meet NCAA Division 1 Ice Hockey requirements, Hockey East Conference standards, University Design Standards and Performance Guidelines which includes up to 59,750sf ice level, 33,250sf concourse level and dedicated 4,700sf club level.

 Up to 2,700 seats, with approximately 50% seatback chairs; the balance being benches, rail seats and dedicated club level seating and lounge seating. Total minimum capacity with standing room for 3,500 people.

 Locker rooms, strength and conditioning room, training room, coach and office space, concessions areas, team congregational rooms, press area, rail seating around concourse, ice lounge, student deck area, and other equipment and support spaces.

 Core branding and arena experience systems, as well as, infrastructure for future branding and experience system opportunities...<<
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800 sro? Geez.
 
My guess:

Much of the SRO space has been placed for easy conversion to permanent seating should ticket demand warrant. For now, fill SRO with students, creating the boisterous environment that embodies an on-campus college hockey venue.
 
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2700 seats plus 800 SRO gives UConn a shot at building an intimidating environment on campus.

I know we are enthusiastic to built a palace, but a palace we can’t fill is a millstone around our neck.
 
kingdobbs said:
2700 seats plus 800 SRO gives UConn a shot at building an intimidating environment on campus.

I know we are enthusiastic to built a palace, but a palace we can’t fill is a millstone around our neck.
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The new 97,700 square foot arena can be a palace given it’s size. Quinnipiac’s dual basketball/hockey facility including the shared common area is 185,000 square feet. Amenities, architectural style and seating will determine if it’s a palace.

 
Quinnipiac's arena is nice, but architecturally its not anything special. From the pictures it appears to be just insulated precast concrete wall panels. Within the arenas you see the backside of the precast wall panels (gray concrete) The entrance area looks like precast panels with inset brick. I don't know what the concourse area look like. I assume it is finished and has more architectural details. I do like all the seats. UConn should be able to construct a really nice facility for the $$$$ they are spending.
 
Viet Vet said:
Prediction: within three years, SHU will be in ECAC or Hockey East. My choice, as a UConn alum and hockey season ticketholder...…...Hockey East.
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That's the gamble, but it's an expensive one with uncertain payoff. In the meantime, SHU has all new construction projects on hold, so there will be at least a one year delay before starting. I don't know the status of their fund-raising in such a tough period for colleges, but one has to wonder whether there could be further delays, revisions or even cancellation.

The ECAC is full. There will be no additions unless someone withdraws and the only remotely likely candidate, QU, seems quite happy with its situation. They are virtually guaranteed to be a competitor every year and they get to claim Yale as a legitimate local rival. It's their dream scenario.

HE has operated with odd numbers for most of its existence. Given the very small footprint for 9 out of the 11 schools, it can easily manage a schedule without requiring the "travel pairs"scenario used by the ECAC. So, they will be very selective. If anything, I think there are schools that would love to get rid of Merrimack and contract to 10 before they would go up to 12. They won't make that same mistake again. SHU will have to complete an impressive rink and establish themselves as a dominant program in Atlantic Hockey before they will even be considered for HE.

As for a capacity of 2700 seats/3500 total, it's small, but if they fill the building every game with a rabid crowd that seems to hover over the rink, it will be a fun place to play. Recruits want a great environment and that's possible while creating a powerful demand for tickets. There are worse things than having people complain that they can't get in. Those folks can buy tickets for the 3 or 4 name brand games per year at the Civic Center.
 
That is a perfect analysis. I hold add that Atlantic Hockey is the lweakest of the D1 leagues. It has some solid teams but it is what it is. Barring a change in the makeup of the ECAC Sacred Heart is where it is. There is no chance they get a hockey East invite. The options there are QU and Holy Cross a distant 2nd unless URI elects to start a program. Then they become #1.
 
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huskymedic said:
New info...

>> Scope of Work:

The Project consists but is not limited to the following program elements:

 97,700sf Ice Hockey Facility that will meet NCAA Division 1 Ice Hockey requirements, Hockey East Conference standards, University Design Standards and Performance Guidelines which includes up to 59,750sf ice level, 33,250sf concourse level and dedicated 4,700sf club level.

 Up to 2,700 seats, with approximately 50% seatback chairs; the balance being benches, rail seats and dedicated club level seating and lounge seating. Total minimum capacity with standing room for 3,500 people.

 Locker rooms, strength and conditioning room, training room, coach and office space, concessions areas, team congregational rooms, press area, rail seating around concourse, ice lounge, student deck area, and other equipment and support spaces.

 Core branding and arena experience systems, as well as, infrastructure for future branding and experience system opportunities...<<

BOT Building & Grounds Committe May 2020 special meeting minutes regarding new hockey arena.

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BOT Building & Grounds Committee May 2020 special session regarding new arena.

 
From Bid Document: "Only Construction Managers Pre-qualified by DAS and the University of Connecticut, as noted herein, will have their Proposal considered for this project."

UConn Hockey Arena + I-Lot Improvements Project #300133 + 300173 Prequalified CMs
  1. Daniel OConnells Sons Inc New Haven, CT
  2. Dimeo Construction Company Providence, RI
  3. Shawmut Design and Construction North Haven, CT 06473
  4. Skanska USA Building Inc Glastonbury, CT
  5. Suffolk Construction Company Inc Boston, MA
  6. Turner Construction Co Shelton, CT
I know Dimeo was the Construction Manager for Quinnipiac's facility. Daniel OConnell's Sons did Elliott Ballpark and Werth Basketball Championship Center.
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Positive steps...
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Is that really an increase? The 2,700 includes a "standing room only deck area for students." I thought the old 2,500-2,700 figures excluded standing room. Will there be any other standing room seating?
 
Duncan Idaho said:
This is no better than URI or Delaware. Following this thread, for $68MM?
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Thanks Medic, guessing it came from Jack's post #62. Hopefully it allows for easy and cheap bench expansion.
 
kibblesnbits said:
Is that really an increase? The 2,700 includes a "standing room only deck area for students." I thought the old 2,500-2,700 figures excluded standing room. Will there be any other standing room seating?
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Small steps and considering the overall financial health of Connecticut, UConn, and collegiate sports in general right now, that's a positive thing. I'm somewhat surprised that the entire project has not been canned yet.
 
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