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aburks41 said:
The biggest part is budget neutral and not reducing other schools TV money payouts. That's a much easier sell for Yormark than to try to get them to vote us in while taking a haircut, which would never happen.
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It's going to happen in 2031 though.
 
Friarsnoop said:
I think if the offer is full membership including football, UConn basically has to take it. If they need to provide themselves worthy by 2031 with investments and an upgraded program, I'd be very leery. Seven years in limbo is an eternity, and there may be better options available by then.
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This will be an ironclad deal involving investments, not wins and losses. They will have to commit to paying the coaching staff like other B12 schools.

The only other investment I could imagine is forcing UConn to build an on campus stadium?
 
bmayuc said:
After watching Syracuse, BC, Pitt, Miami all thrive with their big Ol' P5 budgets, excited to break all of our rivalries and the soul of our athletic department and regional dominance/relevance !!
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This is such an overstated point. What meaningful historical rivals are currently in the big east and move the needle at all? Villanova and maybe an argument for Providence, Marquette, and St. John’s? It has the same name but this is not the Big East of old and our rivalries are far more limited than many fans make them out to be.
 
husky429 said:
Pitino is a walking corpse. No way
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He's a vampire. Don't they live for hundreds of years?

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I am a fool for saying this, but I have to believe that the votes to admit UConn were vetted beforehand and that UConn was not going through the campus visit process only to be told NO once again. There is no way the UConn president would subject the school's honor and reputation to that yet again. If it's true UConn presented, then it's practically a done deal.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
This is such an overstated point. What meaningful historical rivals are currently in the big east and move the needle at all? Villanova and maybe an argument for Providence, Marquette, and St. John’s? It has the same name but this is not the Big East of old and our rivalries are far more limited than many fans make them out to be.
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It hasn't been the Big East of old since 2005.
 
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upstater said:
I am a fool for saying this, but I have to believe that the votes to admit UConn were vetted beforehand and that UConn was not going through the campus visit process only to be told NO once again. There is no way the UConn president would subject the school's honor and reputation to that yet again. If it's true UConn presented, then it's practically a done deal.
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mmm.. I hope you are correct, but the tone of this article in ESPN written by Pete Thamel suggests the opposite:

www.espn.com

Sources: UConn, Big 12 in early talks on potential membership

The Big 12 and UConn are in discussions for the Huskies potentially joining the league, sources told ESPN, though a high-ranking conference official cautioned there is "a far distance between conversations and anything that would happen."
www.espn.com www.espn.com


The the link between the Big 12 and UConn has more specifics as far as the preliminary terms as opposed to last year's rumors which had no specifics at all. But this could be more of the same mental masturbation for UConn and its fans.

I am in the camp of I will believe it when I see and hear Yormark officially announce it. If UConn Football was merely mediocre the last decade averaging between 5-7 a season with 85% of The Rent filled out with loud fans, UConn would be in a Power conference by now.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
This is such an overstated point. What meaningful historical rivals are currently in the big east and move the needle at all? Villanova and maybe an argument for Providence, Marquette, and St. John’s? It has the same name but this is not the Big East of old and our rivalries are far more limited than many fans make them out to be.
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Agree with this. Rivalries are only as good as the quality of play, which is based on the quality of coaches and players. When the new economics evolve further the BE will be so far behind the curve they won’t be able to afford the best coaches or players. If nothing changes with the portal process, you’ll likely see players transferring out of the BE year after year for NIL. It’s an inevitable descension.

The BE got 3 teams in last year. Jay Wright is gone. Check the recruiting lists and you’ll see very few BE teams contending for top players. There is very little trending in the right direction.

We lose the BET tourney and that stings. We lose proximity. This would be upgrade the quality of hoops exponentially.
 
bendm said:
The question isn’t whether we’d rather play Cuse, Pitt, Lville, VT etc it’s whether we’d rather play Kansas, Houston, Baylor, Arizona etc and be in the best bball conference in the country
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Does it really matter if we are winning national titles and able to schedule those teams now?
 
gsmooth said:
mmm.. I hope you are correct, but the tone of this article in ESPN written by Pete Thamel suggests the opposite:

www.espn.com

Sources: UConn, Big 12 in early talks on potential membership

The Big 12 and UConn are in discussions for the Huskies potentially joining the league, sources told ESPN, though a high-ranking conference official cautioned there is "a far distance between conversations and anything that would happen."
www.espn.com www.espn.com


The the link between the Big 12 and UConn has more specifics as far as the preliminary terms as opposed to last year's rumors which had no specifics at all. But this could be more of the same mental masturbation for UConn and its fans.

I am in the camp of I will believe it when I see and hear Yormark officially announce it. If UConn Football was merely mediocre the last decade averaging between 5-7 a season with 85% of The Rent filled out with loud fans, UConn would be in a Power conference by now.
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It would be close to impossible for UConn to achieve that as an Independent.
 
RuffRuff said:
Agree with this. Rivalries are only as good as the quality of play, which is based on the quality of coaches and players. When the new economics evolve further the BE will be so far behind the curve they won’t be able to afford the best coaches or players. If nothing changes with the portal process, you’ll likely see players transferring out of the BE year after year for NIL. It’s an inevitable descension.

The BE got 3 teams in last year. Jay Wright is gone. Check the recruiting lists and you’ll see very few BE teams contending for top players. There is very little trending in the right direction.

We lose the BET tourney and that stings. We lose proximity. This would be upgrade the quality of hoops exponentially.
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Big East has 14 top 100 recruits this season.
 
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husky429 said:
Is the investment in the program they speak of an on-campus stadium?

Honest question: where would it go?
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On Campus(sorry to be an idiot, it was low hanging fruit)
Just need to place with max entrance/exit choices
 
upstater said:
I am a fool for saying this, but I have to believe that the votes to admit UConn were vetted beforehand and that UConn was not going through the campus visit process only to be told NO once again. There is no way the UConn president would subject the school's honor and reputation to that yet again. If it's true UConn presented, then it's practically a done deal.
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Nebraskan18 said:
What would be awesome is if the Big 12 took 3 more teams with us in the Northeast that'd reduce our travel and were also "every sport except Football"

I'm not even sure what schools they'd take (now that Villanova has Neptune). Georgetown, Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall? Idk but would be nice
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It’s a FB only invite, probably why no Zags
 
UConnKev said:


UConn men’s basketball coach Bobby Hurley is not against a move to the Big 12, a source said.

“He loves the Big East, but he understands the Big 12 provides more resources and more money,” the source said.

“Yormark’s going to kick every tire possible,” a Big 12 athletic director said. “We’re open to looking at anything. UConn is a big brand, the biggest-branded institution in the Northeast.”
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I like to think UConn basketball coach Bobby Hurley sat down with Connecticut governor Malloy to strategize the move to the big 12.
 
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superjohn said:
Big East has 14 top 100 recruits this season.
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The current NIL model is good for the Big East, because they have lots of basketball fans who may be wealthy donors in wealthy parts of the country, and those donors donate to basketball.

The future NIL revenue sharing model is very bad for the Big East, because they have ~7% of the media rights/CFP revenue of the B1G/SEC and 15% of the B12/ACC tier.
 
auror said:
The current NIL model is good for the Big East, because they have lots of basketball fans who may be wealthy donors in wealthy parts of the country, and those donors donate to basketball.

The future NIL revenue sharing model is very bad for the Big East, because they have ~7% of the media rights/CFP revenue of the B1G/SEC and 15% of the B12/ACC tier.
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I'm aware of all of that. Just pointing out the recruits the league got.
 
aburks41 said:


The Big 12 and UConn remain in serious negotiations about the Huskies joining the league as its newest expansion member, multiple sources tell Yahoo Sports.

In a marriage that could bring together arguably the country’s strongest basketball conference and perhaps the nation’s best hoops program, UConn officials visited with Big 12 athletic administrators in Dallas last week. Though nothing is imminent, the in-person presentation is a sign of the serious nature of the discussions.

Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark is set to make a similar presentation to the league's presidents next week.

In the latest version of the deal, UConn would join the conference as a member in all sports except football starting, at latest, in 2026. Contingent upon the school meeting certain investment thresholds in the sport, UConn football would join the Big 12 in 2031.

Huge risk not getting football in right away, but it's probably the only way to convince the other schools to let us in. This sounds like it's going to happen
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I guess they didn’t need Zoom. :p
 
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upstater said:
I am a fool for saying this, but I have to believe that the votes to admit UConn were vetted beforehand and that UConn was not going through the campus visit process only to be told NO once again. There is no way the UConn president would subject the school's honor and reputation to that yet again. If it's true UConn presented, then it's practically a done deal.
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I think it looks bad for Yormark for the story to get out there if he doesn't have the votes.

It sounds like Benedict and Toscano went out there to make a presentation to the Big 12 athletic directors at Yormark's request to get it over the line. Last year, Yormark visited UConn. I don't believe anyone from UConn went to the Big 12.
 
superjohn said:
Big East has 14 top 100 recruits this season.
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How’s that compare to the other 4 power bball conferences? 100 players divided by 5 power conferences equals 20 players per conference if they’re equally distributed, so 14 would seem slightly below average.
 
bendm said:
is this supposed to be an argument for staying or what? I don’t see your point cause even if Pitino stays longer than Hurley he’s still 71
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Not an argument for staying, just an observation. Pitino probably stays 3 more years at St. John’s then retirement, Hurley probably stays 2 more years at UConn before heading to the NBA. At this point UConn has no choice, they have to except the Big 12 invitation. We just need to see an iron clad agreement, none of this UConn football has to meet a bunch of unreachable goals and there in come 2031. It appears they want our 2 basketball programs and not the football team. How much does UConn get for basketball only. Same as current Big East ? I don’t like what I am hearing so far. Let be patience and wait for all the details. Football drives the big money, so shouldn’t they actually want our football team ?
 
bendm said:
How’s that compare to the other 4 power bball conferences? 100 players divided by 5 power conferences equals 20 players per conference if they’re equally distributed, so 14 would seem slightly below average.
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You shouldn't be dividing by 5...

Only 11 schools in the Big East. 18 schools in Big 10, 17 schools in the ACC, 16 schools in the Big 12, 16 schools in the SEC.
 
I get the financial implications here, but UConn in the Big XII will damage both basketball programs, and UConn football will still suck / be largely irrelevant in their home state.

I dread the day Hurley heads to the NBA and the next coach has to recruit kids who won’t want to deal with the 1200-2600 miles to each opponent’s campus.

I could probably be talked into an ACC situation. A bunch of (elitist) morons run that conference though.
 
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