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UConn men’s basketball coach Bobby Hurley is not against a move to the Big 12, a source said.

“He loves the Big East, but he understands the Big 12 provides more resources and more money,” the source said.

“Yormark’s going to kick every tire possible,” a Big 12 athletic director said. “We’re open to looking at anything. UConn is a big brand, the biggest-branded institution in the Northeast.”
 
Anyone complaining about leaving the Big East does not see the big picture. If this happens, get ready for the Big 24 conference. When the ACC collapses and the biggest brands go to the SEC and B1G, schools like Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, Virginia Tech and NCST will be added to the Big 12. Would you rather play Villanova, St Johns, Providence and seton hall or would you rather play Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, West Virginia, Cincinnati and NCST?
 
navery12 said:
Despite my incoming 35 posts and constant following of this thread, wake me up when this is finalized. I've been duped too many times before
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I stopped reading the thread after your post for the same reason
 
7 years is a long time to wait for full FB membership. But, like every thing else in re-alignment , things are constantly changing. That 7 year time line could be adjusted along the way. All we want is get our feet in the door. Husky nation will rise to all time record heights.
 
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As I posted in the conference realignment board, congrats in advance to the random ACC schools that we are being used as bait for!

Kidding, kind of.. I don’t fully understand how football money and realignment works (95% just a bball fan). So legit question - what’s the benefit for each side in basketball going in 26 and football in 31?
 
I guess the 2031 for football is because they don't envision ESPN stepping up with the $$ on the football side - only basketball side. Think UConn has to take it to be on the inside, but would suck to leave the Big East
 
JMick said:
Anyone complaining about leaving the Big East does not see the big picture. If this happens, get ready for the Big 24 conference. When the ACC collapses and the biggest brands go to the SEC and B1G, schools like Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, Virginia Tech and NCST will be added to the Big 12. Would you rather play Villanova, St Johns, Providence and seton hall or would you rather play Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, West Virginia, Cincinnati and NCST?
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People, just imagine how good it will feel to vote against BC joining the BIG12 once the ACC collapses
 
Yormark is far more inventive than anything the ACC is doing. He’s pulled a haul out of the P12, he’s looked into PE funding and he’s creative in his branding strategies and income stream potential. He’s also looking to becomes diverse enough and large enough to reach critical mass.

The ACC is just a stodgy flat conference that has only made cheap moves out of desperation, with constant internal squabbling.

Once the collegiate sports landscape evolves further, the small BE hoops schools may very well be left in the economic dust unfortunately.

We want the B12 and there is no counter argument.
 
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ec33 said:
Hoping the 2031 date is about full TV payout, not actually joining the league for football.

Yes UConn football isn't great, but achieving parity with the bottom half of the league isn't going to be a titanic effort. UConn won't be Vanderbilt.
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Agreed, the 2031 thing doesn't make sense. Creating a monumental disadvantage for the school/team you just invited to the conference wouldn't make any sense for the Big 12 or for UConn.

I'll always love the Big East but I hope the deal happens. The deal has to make sense though. I'm really tired of UConn bringing so much to the table for everyone else while UConn gets screwed.

I have to imagine it would be a half share or something. I much quicker timeline for football joining. A scheduling deal with the Big 12 that we have to show a pulse or reach certain goals in football before football is let in as a full member.
 
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It stinks because we have to go if we can. The BE new and old will always be part of our DNA……but the day we cannot compete with NIL funding is coming. Faster than can be imagined.

I just hope this is not another dog and pony and we end up without a chair when the music stops.
 
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REB1094 said:
So legit question - what’s the benefit for each side in basketball going in 26 and football in 31?
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The B12 commissioner is trying to zag when the other power conferences are zigging. He's expecting basketball to have growth and earn a closer share of revenue dollars to football over the years. So he's loading up on undervalued basketball-focused properties (Arizona, Houston, BYU, etc.) and worthwhile "leftovers".

His goal is P3. The top schools in all other conferences have joined the B1G or SEC, and FSU/Clemson have made it clear they're looking to bolt the ACC as soon as they find a way around the grant of rights or bully their way out. Yormark is seeing how tenuous the ACC's position is, and how many strong basketball-focused brands/schools the ACC has that won't be the top choice of B1G/SEC. The B12 was almost dead, and now he's trying to make the B12 a better landing spot for some of the basketball-focused ACC schools when the time comes instead of ACC teams staying and trying to poach FROM the B12. So he's getting UConn in right away to further enhance the B12's value in the run up to their next media negotiation and next round of realignment (easier to convince east coast teams from ACC that B12 will work for them if they have UConn as a test case and "friend" as it were... and keep us from the ACC as a decent fill-in when others leave).

From UConn's perspective, joining right away hopefully gets us more short term money while eventually getting us enough money when football joins and we get a full share to compete when the House settlement and revenue sharing of up to $25 million annually to players kicks in. B12 presidents don't want to give us football money that comes out of their share and ESPN won't give us full pro rata share because our football is garbage. So have to wait for a full re-negotiation in 2031, and B12 presidents are pretty skeptical about our football so they'll add some stipulations to protect themselves from us joining if we don't improve football so we're not a net drain on that future football negotiation. UConn would prefer football in right away, but it doesn't seem to be an option.
 
I think if the offer is full membership including football, UConn basically has to take it. If they need to provide themselves worthy by 2031 with investments and an upgraded program, I'd be very leery. Seven years in limbo is an eternity, and there may be better options available by then.
 
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Friarsnoop said:
I think if the offer is full membership including football, UConn basically has to take it. If they need to provide themselves worthy by 2031 with investments and an upgraded program, I'd be very leery. Seven years in limbo is an eternity, and there may be better options available by then.
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Says the PC fan. We’re never getting invited to BIG or SEC so there will never be a better option
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Part of me is, why not move to the ACC, that makes more sense! but honestly, the ACC as a basketball school has been a shell of itself the last five seasons.

Here are the conference ranks per KenPom over that time span:

2020: Big Ten, Big 12, Big East, ACC
2021: Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12, SEC, ACC, Big East
2022: Big 12, SEC, Big Ten, Big East, ACC
2023: Big 12, Big Ten, Big East, SEC, Pac 12, MWC, ACC
2024: Big 12, Big East, Big Ten, SEC, ACC

That being said, the Big 12 is an incredible conference to join for basketball reasons. Obviously, it'll stink not being able to easily travel for away games (I've only been to St. John's and Seton Hall games), but it's an incredible conference and will greatly help the school financially.
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I want nothing to do with the ACC, the ACC wants nothing to do with UConn, UConn should want nothing to do with the ACC, and you should want nothing to do with the ACC.

Their own hubris destroyed them, that's a dead conference.
 
Friarsnoop said:
I think if the offer is full membership including football, UConn basically has to take it. If they need to provide themselves worthy by 2031 with investments and an upgraded program, I'd be very leery. Seven years in limbo is an eternity, and there may be better options available by then.
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Football's already in limbo now. Even if it's seven years away, it's a light at the end of the tunnel for the time being.
 
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