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kemba said:
Having to wait that long for football to join just doesn’t make sense to me. Having to wait for football revenue but still joining does. A significantly shorter ramp up period makes some sense as well I guess. But playing 6 more years as an independent doesn’t help get us ready to compete in the big 12, nor do we need that long to make any additional investments they want us to make unless they do want an on campus stadium.

I do believe that as long as we are guaranteed being a full member is part of the deal we need to take it, but I do really hope 2031 isn’t accurate or that we can negotiate that down.
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Timeline, money, lots of factors to negotiate. a "runway to 2031" could mean various things. I don't know if there is some type of partial membership leading up to 2031 but yes, UConn should be negotiating for the shortest membership timeline possible even if revenue is delayed.

Telling UConn to improve football while delaying football money makes no sense for either side. Both want UConn Football to improve as quickly as possible. It takes money to make money. It would be undermining both UConn and the Big 12 to try to improve without the funding.
 
That Guy said:
Lol, Dauster is nuts. I'm sure Dan is horrified and pissed off beyond belief that we would be in the absolute best basketball conference in the country while having exciting matchups against the cream of the crop in the sport like Kansas, Baylor, Arizona, and Houston.
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And have much greater tv visibility, more money to offer players and retain coaches.
 
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uconn_jack said:
To be fair, Rutgers and BC stank before too, but yes, this concerns me as well. I think one of the differences though is that our program is built and ready for this kind of change within the new NIL and transfer environment. Not to mention our BB brand is stronger than those other schools. Also, it always felt to me that the ACC never really accepted them into the club so to speak, it continued to be Tobacco Road with peripheral teams.
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Tobacco road wanted us. Clemson and FSU did not for football reasons and BC for territorial reasons. Probably going to bite BC in the end.
 
Kolumbo said:
Timeline, money, lots of factors to negotiate. a "runway to 2031" could mean various things. I don't know if there is some type of partial membership leading up to 2031 but yes, UConn should be negotiating for the shortest membership timeline possible even if revenue is delayed.

Telling UConn to improve football while delaying football money makes no sense for either side. Both want UConn Football to improve as quickly as possible. It takes money to make money. It would be undermining both UConn and the Big 12 to try to improve without the funding.
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Disagree. Time for the boosters/alumni/fans to pony up. Donate, buy tickets and show up for games, ...
 
UConnJim said:
Disagree. Time for the boosters/alumni/fans to pony up. Donate, buy tickets and show up for games, ...
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Disagree with what? That the Big 12 is better off inviting UConn and not paying UConn? Of course we should try to raise as much money as possible but UConn also needs to get paid, like the brand it is.
 
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kemba said:
Having to wait that long for football to join just doesn’t make sense to me. Having to wait for football revenue but still joining does. A significantly shorter ramp up period makes some sense as well I guess. But playing 6 more years as an independent doesn’t help get us ready to compete in the big 12, nor do we need that long to make any additional investments they want us to make unless they do want an on campus stadium.

I do believe that as long as we are guaranteed being a full member is part of the deal we need to take it, but I do really hope 2031 isn’t accurate or that we can negotiate that down.
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We can make 2031 work for football with them throwing us 3-4 games a year.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Not clear the Big 12 is on the right side of the divide either, and if they aren't then we joined a league with Kansas State and Iowa State and abandoned a league with teams that basketball fans actually care about.

I am generally pro-Big 12, but this is not a simple choice. UConn is making a big bet on the future of college football that we may get really, really wrong.
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The B-12 is at best on a precipice. The BE is on the wrong side of the divide. If we move from the BE to the B-12 we may well still end up on the wrong side a dozen years down the road. For the most part I agree with your assertion, but my take is moving to the B-12 may end up being wrong, remaining in the BE when we would have had the opportunity to join a current P-4 school will be wrong.

Also, I'm not sure many of our fans really care about DePaul or Butler.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
The B-12 is at best on a precipice. The BE is on the wrong side of the divide. If we move from the BE to the B-12 we may well still end up on the wrong side a dozen years down the road. For the most part I agree with your assertion, but my take is moving to the B-12 may end up being wrong, remaining in the BE when we would have had the opportunity to join a current P-4 school will be wrong.

Also, I'm not sure many of our fans really care about DePaul or Butler.
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It's a really easy decision now with the whole revenue sharing thing. Once UConn is in we're in, we'll be on the right side of the divide.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
The B-12 is at best on a precipice. The BE is on the wrong side of the divide. If we move from the BE to the B-12 we may well still end up on the wrong side a dozen years down the road. For the most part I agree with your assertion, but my take is moving to the B-12 may end up being wrong, remaining in the BE when we would have had the opportunity to join a current P-4 school will be wrong.

Also, I'm not sure many of our fans really care about DePaul or Butler.
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Kansas is not Wichita State

Oklahoma State is not Tulsa

Iowa State is not “Creighton”
 
Stinger92860 said:
We can make 2031 work for football with them throwing us 3-4 games a year.
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WestCoastHusky said:
It will give us a chance to schedule other easier games and get some wins. We can make it work.
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That’s pretty much the situation we’re in now though, playing a few p4 games a year without the benefits of being in a p4 conference, and then filling the rest of the schedule with lesser programs. Maybe 2029 and 2030 our recruiting benefits cuz we can sell recruits on the conference for the 2nd half of their career, but that’s why I think I much shorter ramp up period is more fair.

So I agree we can make it work and if that’s the best we can do than we do it, I’m just holding out hope for better
 
GoConn said:
On Campus stadium would make students significantly more interested, which results in long-term fans as alumni.
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Our student section was packed 15-20 years ago. Those students are now approaching their prime earning years and I haven't heard or seen any noticeable extra interest from them. Is it because they had to take the bus to games back then? Or is it because what you just said is a nice-sounding myth?
 
ZooCougar said:
Kansas is not Wichita State

Oklahoma State is not Tulsa

Iowa State is not “Creighton”
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I am quite confident that I have never equated Kansas with Wichita St, Oklahoma St with Tulsa or Iowa St with Creighton.

If you want to attack a post in this thread go after Nelson's post, not the post refuting Nelson's post.
 
JMick said:
Anyone complaining about leaving the Big East does not see the big picture. If this happens, get ready for the Big 24 conference. When the ACC collapses and the biggest brands go to the SEC and B1G, schools like Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, Virginia Tech and NCST will be added to the Big 12. Would you rather play Villanova, St Johns, Providence and seton hall or would you rather play Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, West Virginia, Cincinnati and NCST?
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The Big East teams. Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, and WVU are awful. Cincinnati did decently in the NIT. NCST is actually good.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
I am quite confident that I have never equated Kansas with Wichita St, Oklahoma St with Tulsa or Iowa St with Creighton.

If you want to attack a post in this thread go after Nelson's post, not the post refuting Nelson's post.
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Yes you are. The Big 12 is far more than a "precipice"

It's North of the Wall

It's a Lifeboat with a luxury suite

It's a winning lottery ticket

Pull your head out of your you know what
 
NJHusky said:
Why?
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UConn is expected to build, fund, and operate a program just like the other Big 12 schools. If a new stadium can’t be built, that will be a big strike against us. By 2031 the Rent will be 30 years old.
 
Redding Husky said:
UConn is expected to build, fund, and operate a program just like the other Big 12 schools. If a new stadium can’t be built, that will be a big strike against us. By 2031 the Rent will be 30 years old.
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Not that it has to do with anything but at the moment there are sixteen schools in the B-12 and I know of only three (although there may be one or two more) with stadiums that are not more than thirty years old.

I personally would have no problem with building an on campus stadium if it were done intelligently (sadly quite a few of our university's construction projections over the recent years do not qualify) but if an on campus stadium by 2031 were a deal breaker, the deal would already be broken asa there is no way the recently approved investment in the Rent would go forward, there is no way we would abandon that build in seven years.
 
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