UConn/ACC

[whaler11]

CR will always be interesting because of its drama...winners, losers, angst. It is As the World Turns for the sports junkie.

And, many think that the tectonic plates of CR are still slowly grinding. With the subduction of conferences, hot spots appearing, occasional tremors..and the possibility of a Mt. St. Helens, CR is the hot topic of off seasons.

Everyone is a winner except UConn and Cincinnati. There is no angst for anyone else who isn't out of their minds.

You are a fan of the defending national champion and you have nothing better to worry about than Maryland. Like I said bizarre.

 

[Dooley]

Everyone is a winner except UConn and Cincinnati. There is no angst for anyone else who isn't out of their minds.

You are a fan of the defending national champion and you have nothing better to worry about than Maryland. Like I said bizarre.

Yup. We are a defending national champion in the other revenue sport but for some absurd reason, we are stuck in the American resorting to shaking a cup of change on street corners for any kind of money we can get. Again, absurd. Off of the very top of my head, if I was a fan of Wake, BC, Cuse, Pitt, NC State, Duke, Maryland, UNC (can now add them to this list given their academic fraud scandals), UVA, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Iowa State, Colorado, Utah, TCU, Oklahoma State, Rutgers, Louisville, Arkansas, Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Arizona, Arizona State, Washington, Washington State, Cal, or Oregon State, I would just be happy to be grandfathered or accepted into a P5 conference.

I mean no disrespect to any visiting fans of any of those schools. All I'm saying is that UCONN fans could give a very compelling side-by-side comparison with most/all of them if there was ever a "P5 Draft" conducted from scratch. Be thankful that your Presidents and ADs past and present were able to position your school inside the P5. Trust us, from the outside looking in, it ' sucks to see some of these schools in a p5 conference when we know full well that UCONN can compete and make money on par with all of them if all things were level. Forgive UCONN fans for not wanting to read about B1G or ACC championships from the 50s and 60s as a determining factor for what conference is the superior. All UCONN fans want to read about is the how/where/why/what/WHEN we are going to a P5 conference like the schools that I listed above enjoy.

 

[pj]

But...importantly...Maryland football has not been good of late.

Neither has Notre Dame, especially compared to its past. Or Syracuse, or Pitt, or BC, or Miami.

But congratulations, you did buy high on Louisville.

 

[clmssun]

Or Nebraska. Or Michigan.

 

[upstater]

Maryland went freekin' 2-22 against the Noles in the ACC...got splattered 63-0 in their last match. A horrible football opponent. A snoozer of an annual game. FSU won their games by an average score of 27 points...

Maryland, over the last 14 years, has lost more ACC games then they have won...have had nine season with fewer then five total wins...

Maryland football had become a dumpster fire.

Like most FSU fans, I am thrilled that this lackluster team is off of the schedule....

If you're going back in history like that, take a look at Louisville the last decade. You're actually impressed?

 

[btstimpy]

Louisville- All Time 469-440-17(.516)/Bowl 9-8-1(.528)

Rutgers- All Time 626-606-42 (.508)/Bowl 5-4(.556)

Rutgers v. Louisville All Time Head to Head- RU 7-6

Clearly Louisville is the superior football program. Their dominance over Rutgers can not be questioned.

The Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl rings in the past decade impress me the most. All time head to head looks about the same.

 

[upstater]

The Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl rings in the past decade impress me the most. All time head to head looks about the same.

What do you think of the Florida team they played?

People seem to forget that UConn has actually played this team that people like Billybud are slobbering about. The year Louisville beat Florida was also the year that Louisville lost to one of the worst UConn teams in a decade--with Paul Pasqualoni as the coach.

 

[btstimpy]

UMCP has done quite well in m basketball, football, m soccer, m lax since 1975... winning quite a few ACC championships. I'm not pro or anti-UMCP, but they were a solid addition for the B1G in everything except football. I think many of us look at this generically and assume UMCP is a poor choice because of their football program. But their football team kicked my football team's butt last year on senior day (humiliating). But everyone is kicking our butts these days.

UL is a good athletic choice for the ACC, but not in UMCP's league yet. I expect UL to make some noise in the ACC in short order. I still wish the ACC added UConn instead of UL.

Eh. UVA is 16-8 vs Maryland since 1990 in football. We've sucked since 2007, and three of the Maryland wins are since 2007. We finally lost in overtime in men's basketball this year after winning 6 in a row. If you want to be impressed by the men's lacrosse team, go ahead. Men's soccer is good of late at Maryland. How Maryland's football team won in Blacksburg is a real mystery on the level of Duke beating everyone in the Coastal including Miami.

I would like to see the ACC add UConn as well.

 

[btstimpy]

What do you think of the Florida team they played?

People seem to forget that UConn has actually played this team that people like Billybud are slobbering about. The year Louisville beat Florida was also the year that Louisville lost to one of the worst UConn teams in a decade--with Paul Pasqualoni as the coach.

That Florida team rolled most of the SEC that year, but looked like crap in the Sugar Bowl. Georgia was a better team almost beating Alabama in the SEC title. Pasqualoni did get a nice win over Louisville that season.

 

[bingethinker]

Eh. UVA is 16-8 vs Maryland since 1990 in football. We've sucked since 2007, and three of the Maryland wins are since 2007. We finally lost in overtime in men's basketball this year after winning 6 in a row. If you want to be impressed by the men's lacrosse team, go ahead. Men's soccer is good of late at Maryland. How Maryland's football team won in Blacksburg is a real mystery on the level of Duke beating everyone in the Coastal including Miami.

I would like to see the ACC add UConn as well.

More Maryland bashing from the Virginia fan who claims to not give a damn about Maryland, I see.

 

[upstater]

That Florida team rolled most of the SEC that year, but looked like crap in the Sugar Bowl. Georgia was a better team almost beating Alabama in the SEC title. Pasqualoni did get a nice win over Louisville that season.

Florida was on a downward plunge that they've yet to claw out of. And really, outside the top teams of the SEC, they are just like any other conference. Including the old BE. Any time UConn has played an SEC team, there is no discernible difference between them and any other team in any other league.

LSU, Alabama, Florida, Auburn. That's where things get cooking. Outside of that, what is so impressive about beating an SEC team? They diodn't even play Alabama and Auburn that year. The next year, practically the same team lost to Georgia Southern for heaven's sake.

You guys severely overrate Louisville.

 

[btstimpy]

More Maryland bashing from the Virginia fan who claims to not give a damn about Maryland, I see.

I don't think it is bashing. He was saying how good Maryland is in football, basketball, lacrosse, and socccer. I just laid out the truth. To me that's not bashing.

 

[NickyNewark]

Nicky there are at least two other threads on this board discussing the B1G decision to take Rutgers over UConn and why there is a lot of head scratching. It's mostly UConn fans discussing it, and not ACC fans. Watch this video if you can. It epitomized what everyone knows the B1G is getting with Rutgers. But enjoy the extra TV money.

You know what Stimp...you sound like a very sick deluded man...I'm just gonna put you on ignore...samo samo with you...pure ACC apologist! Werent you recently banned? Now I'm banning you from my eyes.

Eh. UVA is 16-8 vs Maryland since 1990 in football. We've sucked since 2007, and three of the Maryland wins are since 2007. We finally lost in overtime in men's basketball this year after winning 6 in a row. If you want to be impressed by the men's lacrosse team, go ahead. Men's soccer is good of late at Maryland. How Maryland's football team won in Blacksburg is a real mystery on the level of Duke beating everyone in the Coastal including Miami.

I would like to see the ACC add UConn as well.

You know btstimpycuse your superior attitude is a reflection of the ACC and why your so unpopular here even though you use the old " though I would like to see UConn in the ACC even KNOWING its not their preference" to sugarcoat the cringing fanbase. I hope when or IF you have a real life you don't behave in this superior,arrogant manner? Do you ever deviate from the all ACC "message"? Are you even human? You show no real personality or humor...ever!! I know stimp.. "you're all about the directors cup"!!

 

[Calamitous]

Eh. UVA is 16-8 vs Maryland since 1990 in football. We've sucked since 2007, and three of the Maryland wins are since 2007.

I agree that UMCP isn't the greatest in football, but they have had some good seasons during the Friedgen era and seem to be doing better these days (but nothing spectacular). I was really talking more about their Olympic sports and basketball programs.

 

[NickyNewark]

Crap Nicky...Rutgers is crowing about playing in a Regional?

Holy smokes....

Regional? 1950? I think RU and either Texas or Wisconsin played for it all(though I was born in "51"...and crowing about "a" regional? I believe we averaged 38-17 records with 40+ records a couple yrs between "98" and "02" and played pretty competitive BB until Fred "Moose" Hill retired a few yrs ago though it not popular anymore here in the NE due to the seasonal nature of the game I guess?

 

[Calamitous]

More Maryland bashing from the Virginia fan who claims to not give a damn about Maryland, I see.

UVa and UMCP have never had any love for one another. That goes well beyond UMCP bolting for the B1G. Ask any UMCP alum or fan what they think of UVa... and vice versa.

 

[Pat125]

UVa and UMCP have never had any love for one another. That goes well beyond UMCP bolting for the B1G. Ask any UMCP alum or fan what they think of UVa... and vice versa.

I went to Maryland as a grad student. So maybe that's why I didn't realize that there was this mutual (and IMO) irrational hatred of each other. If I recall, in one of your posts a while back, you mentioned there was a similar thing between UVa and VT, where you basically implied (to me, at least) that UVa alums look down at VT as well. Anyway, I think UVa, VT, and UConn are great institutions and would have been happy to have gone to any of them. I would like to think that only a small fraction of UVa alums exhibit the type of slimy smugness and bashing disguised as "truth" that stimpy exhibits (and not just towards Maryland). I guess there are many Maryland alums that return the favor. That's unfortunate. No need for it.

 

[Calamitous]

If I recall, in one of your posts a while back, you mentioned there was a similar thing between UVa and VT, where you basically implied (to me, at least) that UVa alums look down at VT as well.

Tech - UVa have the State rivalry thing. Some Hoos hate Tech just for that simple reason. Some look down on Tech because we don't always measure up to them academically or think we're hicks, but many also consider us a friendly rivalry and are respectful. I never understood the Hoo-Terrapin hatred. Maybe it's akin to Hokie-'Eer hatred (which I don't have BTW). I guess every school has their hated enemy.

 

[btstimpy]

Florida was on a downward plunge that they've yet to claw out of. And really, outside the top teams of the SEC, they are just like any other conference. Including the old BE. Any time UConn has played an SEC team, there is no discernible difference between them and any other team in any other league.

LSU, Alabama, Florida, Auburn. That's where things get cooking. Outside of that, what is so impressive about beating an SEC team? They diodn't even play Alabama and Auburn that year. The next year, practically the same team lost to Georgia Southern for heaven's sake.

You guys severely overrate Louisville.

Florida is on a downward trend and Will Muschamp is certainly on the hot seat. Our coach is too.

But winning the Sugar Bowl is an accomplishment. That Florida team that played in it won a lot of games that year. I'm not overrating Louisville football. Their recent football success is a recent thing. They've always been a basketball school to me. When I think of Louisville, I see Denny Crum's picture. It's the same for UConn really. I see Geno Auriemma's face and Jim Calhoun along with Ray Allen and Emeka Okefor. I'd have a hard time naming any football players. I do know Paul Pasqueloni, but I think Syracuse and Donnovan McNabb with him.

 

[billybud]

Beating Florida was a very good win for the Cards. Florida that year had beaten an 11 win South Carolina, a 11 win Texas A&M, a 12 win FSU and a 10 win LSU.....beating ten win or better teams from a good league is a sign of strength.

UConn has had some good wins......

They just did not catch P5 eyes re football. The last ten seasons, against the the current P5 conferences (ACC, SEC, Big 12, Big 10, Pac 12), UConn has beaten one P5 team with a winning record (South Carolina-7 wins).

 

[bingethinker]

I don't think it is bashing. He was saying how good Maryland is in football, basketball, lacrosse, and socccer. I just laid out the truth. To me that's not bashing.

You take every chance you get to bash the Terps, which is your prerogative in our free society. I think what bothers me the most about your posts is that if someone here weren’t familiar with Maryland’s programs, you’d have them believe that they’re absolutely terrible. You took the time to dog Maryland football, basketball, lacrosse, and soccer, but somehow failed to mention that Maryland owns the all-time head-to-head series against Virginia and has more ACC titles than Virginia in each of those sports, that Maryland lax is second all-time nationally in Final Fours appearances, and that Maryland soccer is third all-time nationally in Final Four appearances. You take every chance you get to poo-poo on all things Maryland all while saying you can't wait to be rid of the Terps. Maryland and Virginia aren’t in the same conference anymore, but here you are.

I just don’t get it. Maryland owns the all-time series in football and basketball versus Virginia, has more national titles than Virginia, has more ACC titles than Virginia, yet somehow you find a way to talk about how god awful Maryland Athletics is. If Maryland performed like Rutgers or even Iowa, then fine, poo-poo away. Maryland’s 10-year Director’s Cup average final ranking is ~30. That’s upper 1/3of the ACC and upper ½ of the Big Ten. Maryland ICA has lots of flaws, but being the scum of the Earth is not one of them and you always purport that to be the case. You want to talk about Debbie Yow running the budget into the ground? Fine. You want to talk about poor performance in football and basketball since 2010? Fine. All I’m saying is be honest and don’t mislead people based on your strong dislike of Maryland. Maryland’s poop stinks just like everyone else’s, but let’s not act like Maryland isn’t a middle of the road performing Big Ten athletic department, at worst.

UVa and UMCP have never had any love for one another. That goes well beyond UMCP bolting for the B1G. Ask any UMCP alum or fan what they think of UVa... and vice versa.

I'm a Maryland alum, so I definitely get it. My next door neighbor is a 'Hoo and isn't nearly as one-sided in his critique as that guy is.

 

[upstater]

Beating Florida was a very good win for the Cards. Florida that year had beaten an 11 win South Carolina, a 11 win Texas A&M, a 12 win FSU and a 10 win LSU.....beating ten win or better teams from a good league is a sign of strength.

UConn has had some good wins.

They just did not catch P5 eyes re football. The last ten seasons, against the the current P5 conferences (ACC, SEC, Big 12, Big 10, Pac 12), UConn has beaten one P5 team with a winning record (South Carolina-7 wins).

Louisville went from sucking at football to being mediocre. You have proven you are way too easily impressed.

AND, this isn't about UConn so no need to bust on UConn. This is about Louisville.

 

[billybud]

Everyone is a winner except UConn and Cincinnati. There is no angst for anyone else who isn't out of their minds.

You are a fan of the defending national champion and you have nothing better to worry about than Maryland. Like I said bizarre.

Oh...FSU fans are always worried, Whaler.

Worried about being marginalized while playing in the very shadow of the SEC...with Alabama and Georgia very near on the border and with as many Gator tags in Tallahassee as FSU tags. The Borg is always there. And their games are compelling to watch. Living this close to the Borg, it is like living in eastern Ukraine....

Worried that Miami will not once again become an opponent that will put the annual match on a national stage as it did in the 90's.

Worried that Virginia, Wake, Syracuse, et al won't provide match ups that folks care to watch.

Worried that the Coastal Division may put up a non competitive division champ. That division race should be wide open this year with no dominant team.

What we don't particularly worry about is basketball. We are resigned to our place in the basketball world and have no hopes for much better.

 

[Pat125]

You want to talk about Debbie Yow running the budget into the ground?

Actually, not only has stimpy not been critical of Ms. Yow, but I recall him praising her tenure as Maryland AD. And I think it was genuine. Go figure.

 

[billybud]

Louisville went from sucking at football to being mediocre. You have proven you are way too easily impressed.

AND, this isn't about UConn so no need to bust on UConn. This is about Louisville.

I was impressed by their win over Florida...it was a good win.

Louisville haters will ignore that Florida beat very good teams in 2012....Point out just how many teams beat three teams with 11 wins or more and a 10 win team in a year (all in P5 conferences).

Why would we be discussing Louisville...if it was not also about Connecticut? All topics related to new additions to eastern leagues are tangential to UConn and CR.

And, on the side, Florida will be back. They have the athletes and recruiting. If they can have a year without the horrible injuries of 2013, they can start the climb.

They have their QB back from a broken leg (they had 21 scholarship players missing games to injury in 2013 including 18 starters). I expect them to get to a bowl.

 

[upstater]

I was impressed by their win over Florida...it was a good win.

Louisville haters will ignore that Florida beat very good teams in 2012....Point out just how many teams beat three teams with 11 wins or more and a 10 win team in a year (all in P5 conferences).

Why would we be discussing Louisville...if it was not also about Connecticut? All topics related to new additions to eastern leagues are tangential to UConn and CR.

And, on the side, Florida will be back. They have the athletes and recruiting. If they can have a year without the horrible injuries of 2013, they can start the climb.

They have their QB back from a broken leg (they had 21 scholarship players missing games to injury in 2013 including 18 starters). I expect them to get to a bowl.

What a bizarre argument.

I can't discuss how mediocre Louisville is without invoking UConn? Absurd.

Florida was beaten by Georgia Southern with largely the same athletes the very next season. That team went into the tank.

It's irrelevant anyway since UConn actually beat that same Louisville team, which was also blown out by Syracuse. That Louisville team scraped by against very weak opposition all year. It's absurd that you're impressed by them.

But since you're bringing UConn into this, your numbers are totally wrong. UConn has won 11 games against current P5 teams with winning records that season. 3 of those teams were outside the former BE.

AND, UConn has proven it would do just fine inside a conference like the ACC. Despite joining D1 and BE football for the first time in 2004, UConn had a 15-11 record in the BE against Louisville, Pittsburgh and Syracuse. So who really cares that UConn "didn't catch P5" eyes? Neither did the 3 teams that the ACC added. And we know why UConn wasn't picked. It had everything to do with one school in particular being scared of UConn the first time voting came up.

 

[Ha Who]

ESPN is reporting Wake Forest to the Big Ten and Northwestern to the ACC

 

[Ldandy]

The Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl rings in the past decade impress me the most. All time head to head looks about the same.

I'll give you The Sugar Bowl win over a painfully disinterested Florida Team, but The Orange? LOL Dude they beat Wake Forest. Jezus Khrist let me repeat that. Wake Forest represented a conference in a BCS Bowl Game. Congrats to The Cards on that titanic victory. Too bad they didn't go undefeated that year because they might of had a shot at The National Championship Game. Who did mighty Louisville lose to that season anyway?

 

[whaler11]

What a bizarre argument.

I can't discuss how mediocre Louisville is without invoking UConn? Absurd.

Florida was beaten by Georgia Southern with largely the same athletes the very next season. That team went into the tank.

It's irrelevant anyway since UConn actually beat that same Louisville team, which was also blown out by Syracuse. That Louisville team scraped by against very weak opposition all year. It's absurd that you're impressed by them.

But since you're bringing UConn into this, your numbers are totally wrong. UConn has won 11 games against current P5 teams with winning records that season. 3 of those teams were outside the former BE.

AND, UConn has proven it would do just fine inside a conference like the ACC. Despite joining D1 and BE football for the first time in 2004, UConn had a 15-11 record in the BE against Louisville, Pittsburgh and Syracuse. So who really cares that UConn "didn't catch P5" eyes? Neither did the 3 teams that the ACC added. And we know why UConn wasn't picked. It had everything to do with one school in particular being scared of UConn the first time voting came up.

A bizzare argument would be that Louisville has been mediocre in football.

 

[SubbaBub]

I'm not about to discount any BCS win, except maybe Utah over Pitt. UL has shown exactly what a FB program can do with a good coach and community support. It's really difficult to criticize it's athletic program. Now it's academic program...