UConn/ACC

[NickyNewark]

I'm glad you're happy. The Louisville athletics department has better on field/on court performance the past decade than either of the B1G additions, better facilities than both, better fiances than both, and more fan support than both. From every corner of the ACC, the fans do believe that the ACC just experienced an upgrade.

As for academics, the ACC remains the only Power 5 conference with 5 members in the top 30 in the nation and 8 in the top 50. Louisville does need some work in this area. There are plans to improve. The new B1G additions need a lot more work on the courts and fields. You will see it soon enough.

How you guys do against Vandy in baseball yesterday? Large old prestigious school like Jefferson's UVa Cav's must have smoked em? Nice opportunity to show the SEC whose boss down there?
I hope you enjoyed the holiday weekend too!! lol..

 

[billybud]

LOL...only a smacking fan of a team that has never done anything would rag on a team for losing in the final of the College World Series to the #1 team.

Wake me when Rutgers ever gets to the CWS...or the football playoffs.

 

[btstimpy]

Why? Jealous? ACC fan who knows RU never wanted them!! LOL...I can understand this ACC hate! Mystery solved....I never saw so much RU talk by ACC fans visiting a UConn board!?!

Nicky there are at least two other threads on this board discussing the B1G decision to take Rutgers over UConn and why there is a lot of head scratching. It's mostly UConn fans discussing it, and not ACC fans. Watch this video if you can. It epitomized what everyone knows the B1G is getting with Rutgers. But enjoy the extra TV money.

 

[B1GOSU]

Maryland is in second place in all sports ACC championships and it's not even close. It will be many years before any ACC team passes Maryland in the all sport championship standings. Yet, ACC people claim Louisville is a better addition than UMD. Yeah right.

 

[billybud]

Maryland went freekin' 2-22 against the Noles in the ACC...got splattered 63-0 in their last match. A horrible football opponent. A snoozer of an annual game. FSU won their games by an average score of 27 points...

Maryland, over the last 14 years, has lost more ACC games then they have won...have had nine season with fewer then five total wins...

Maryland football had become a dumpster fire.

Like most FSU fans, I am thrilled that this lackluster team is off of the schedule....

 

[Seaa Blue]

The major B1G schools like Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State have made bigger paychecks than ACC schools for the past 100 years. Yet still only 1 basketball championship in the past 25 years and 2 football since 1970, one of which was enabled by horrific officiating. Big paychecks certainly don't produce the wins do they? The schools are larger and make more money. They always have.

Frequently coming in second or third isn't exactly like frequently losing a war (except by your measure I guess).

 

[Seaa Blue]

I'm glad you're happy. The Louisville athletics department has better on field/on court performance the past decade than either of the B1G additions.

Please do the math on Rutgers football compared with Louisville's record over the last 10 years (I'm too tired). It's not what you think.

I did the math once and there was a 6 year span where Rutgers had the better record.

 

[billybud]

The B1G has great basketball....mediocre to bad baseball, and decent football.

 

[billybud]

Please do the math on Rutgers football compared with Louisville's record over the last 10 years (I'm too tired). It's not what you think.

I did the math once and there was a 6 year span where Rutgers had the better record.

Last ten seasons...Rutgers has has lost two thirds of their games with Louisville.


Louisville has won two BCS Bowl Games recently....and seems to be on the rise.

I don't really care about comparisons of Rutgers and Louisville...either is better then the dumpster fire of Maryland.

Rutgers and New Jersey just don't seem a good fit with FSU, Clemson, Wake, NC State, etc.....much like Syracuse and BC make for a horrible fit in the division. We did not need another NE program.

 

[clmssun]

And I'm sure B1G schools will be happy making double the paycheck that ACC schools will receive.

Did UConn just win dual basketball championships on the court or at the revenue table?

 

[btstimpy]

Maryland is in second place in all sports ACC championships and it's not even close. It will be many years before any ACC team passes Maryland in the all sport championship standings. Yet, ACC people claim Louisville is a better addition than UMD. Yeah right.

Yes with the vast majority of men's before 1975. Only one (1) since. Maryland dominates women's lacrosse. That's what you added. This is NCAA championships. You said ACC. I'll have to go research that later.

 

[Calamitous]

If forced, I'd say Jim Delany's current top picks for next round expansion schools probably looks something like this;

#1. UVA & UNC
#2. Nobody

I think UVa and UNC are Delany's #1 and #2 also. But I think there is a #3, #4 and maybe a #5 in Texas, Kansas and non-AAU member Oklahoma (to keep the B1G footprint contiguous). But we'll all have to wait a while to see if these schools ever jump.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

And I'm sure B1G schools will be happy making double the paycheck that ACC schools will receive.

We don't have to have B1G money to compete. That's already been proven this last season. We may not win all the time but it's enjoyable to watch many teams do well in many sports.

 

[Calamitous]

Yes with the vast majority of men's before 1975. Only one (1) since. Maryland dominates women's lacrosse. That's what you added.

UMCP has done quite well in m basketball, football, m soccer, m lax since 1975... winning quite a few ACC championships. I'm not pro or anti-UMCP, but they were a solid addition for the B1G in everything except football. I think many of us look at this generically and assume UMCP is a poor choice because of their football program. But their football team kicked my football team's butt last year on senior day (humiliating). But everyone is kicking our butts these days.

UL is a good athletic choice for the ACC, but not in UMCP's league yet. I expect UL to make some noise in the ACC in short order. I still wish the ACC added UConn instead of UL.

 

[Ldandy]

Louisville- All Time 469-440-17(.516)/Bowl 9-8-1(.528)

Rutgers- All Time 626-606-42 (.508)/Bowl 5-4(.556)

Rutgers v. Louisville All Time Head to Head- RU 7-6

Clearly Louisville is the superior football program. Their dominance over Rutgers can not be questioned.

 

[itgoeslike]

Yes with the vast majority of men's before 1975. Only one (1) since. Maryland dominates women's lacrosse. That's what you added. This is NCAA championships. You said ACC. I'll have to go research that later.

I'm not a fan of Maryland, but what you say is totally misleading. Since 1980, Maryland has won 23 National Championships in 5 sports, which is second only to North Carolina among schools in the ACC. UNC was helped dramatically by their dominance in womens soccer.

 

[Rappin'Rodney]

UNC was helped dramatically by their dominance in womens soccer

...as an academic fraud factory.

 

[NickyNewark]

LOL...only a smacking fan of a team that has never done anything would rag on a team for losing in the final of the College World Series to the #1 team.

Wake me when Rutgers ever gets to the CWS...or the football playoffs.

you sillybud. Keep on being arrogant here because arrogance pro ACC is ALL you offer. Anything new to offer??And dont give me the BS that you're interested except negatively in UConn athletics ...you look down on everything east of WV....you belong here like I do on a Cuse board(even less)!!Keep gloating while UNC and by proxy the ACC gets crucified for cheating. Your heading where the mods sent stimp...keep up the BS!

 

[NickyNewark]

LOL...only a smacking fan of a team that has never done anything would rag on a team for losing in the final of the College World Series to the #1 team.

Wake me when Rutgers ever gets to the CWS...or the football playoffs.

BTW I notice Todd Frazier former RU baseball great earned some nice accolades recently.

 

[NickyNewark]

LOL...only a smacking fan of a team that has never done anything would rag on a team for losing in the final of the College World Series to the #1 team.

Wake me when Rutgers ever gets to the CWS...or the football playoffs.

I believe you were sleeping in "98" when I think they played Auburn in the CWS playoffs and lost 7-4 I believe?Wake me up when you offer something worth listening too....next stop ignore for you...your just getting tired here.

 

[NickyNewark]

Last ten seasons...Rutgers has has lost two thirds of their games with Louisville.


Louisville has won two BCS Bowl Games recently....and seems to be on the rise.

I don't really care about comparisons of Rutgers and Louisville...either is better then the dumpster fire of Maryland.

Rutgers and New Jersey just don't seem a good fit with FSU, Clemson, Wake, NC State, etc.....much like Syracuse and BC make for a horrible fit in the division. We did not need another NE program.

So you're just here to promote your "southern agenda"?

 

[billybud]

So you're just here to promote your "southern agenda"?

Nicky.....I am not "promoting" my southern agenda...I am representing a viewpoint of fan from another section of the country.

You tend to get ugly and personal....I guess that I am "southern" (although I spent years on my grandfathers and then father's Wisconsin farm...but my southern mom ingrained it in me to show other's respect, not as a reflection of their character, but of yours.

Louisville, over the past ten seasons, has been a better football program then Rutgers (Rutgers had a .337 record against them)...and football folks down here were very happy to have Louisville.

There is a lot of grousing from some northeastern folks about Louisville's addition, but the truth is that there was a lot of support for Louisville, especially from the southernmost ACC schools. And not recognizing that CR can be impacted by regional culture is foolish.

 

[Pat125]

Maryland went freekin' 2-22 against the Noles in the ACC...got splattered 63-0 in their last match. A horrible football opponent. A snoozer of an annual game. FSU won their games by an average score of 27 points...

Maryland, over the last 14 years, has lost more ACC games then they have won...have had nine season with fewer then five total wins...

Maryland football had become a dumpster fire.

Like most FSU fans, I am thrilled that this lackluster team is off of the schedule....

Wow! Maryland actually beat FSU twice? I get that Maryland wasn't the cream of ACC football, but even when they were pretty good they always underperformed against FSU. Now if you can get five or six more "dumpster fires" out of the ACC, you and the rest of the football only FSU fans will be happy. or, better yet, FSU can simply leave the ACC.

At least you didn't lace your bitter hatred of Maryland with "clever" and dishonest smug.

 

[billybud]

Pat...I agree....some of us are disgusted by the football competition in the ACC...GT. Duke, UNC abd Virginia don't have a better record against FSU then does Maryland...Maryland was just the one to get off the schedule.

There has been an interest from the "football schools" in upgrading ACC football. There has been a lot of skepticism at FSU about the willingness of some schools to invest (or be able to invest) enough in football. UNC is still thought of as a basketball first school, as is Duke,

Wake and GT will always be decent seven win schools that have a good year now and again. Virginia has fallen into the abyss....and Miami needs to climb out. It has been 11 years since the Canes have had a double digit win season.

The wish to provide better football match ups trumped the basketball interests this last time around.

 

[billybud]

I believe you were sleeping in "98" when I think they played Auburn in the CWS playoffs and lost 7-4 I believe?Wake me up when you offer something worth listening too....next stop ignore for you...your just getting tired here.

Crap Nicky...Rutgers is crowing about playing in a Regional?

Holy smokes....

 

[B1GOSU]

Maryland leaves the ACC in second place on the all-time list of all-sport championships, having won 192 ACC Championships. North Carolina is in first place at 252. Third place is a tie between NC State and Duke, at 120 each, so the Terps will remain in second place on this list for quite some time.


Maryland is the all-time leader in ACC Championships in the following sports:

Basketball (Women's)
Indoor Track & Field (Men's)
Lacrosse (Men's)
Lacrosse (Women's)
Outdoor Track & Field (Men's)
Soccer (Men's)
Wrestling

Maryland is in second place in the following sports:

Cross Country (Men's)
Field Hockey

Maryland is in third place in the following sports:

Football
Volleyball

The 192 Championships include:

Baseball - 3
Basketball (Men's) - 3
Basketball (Women's) - 10 (1st place overall, UNC is second at 9)
Cross Country (Men's) - 11 (2nd place overall, NC State is first at 16)
Cross Country (Women's) - 0
Field Hockey - 9 (2nd place overall, UNC is first at 18)
Football - 9 (3rd place overall, behind Florida State and Clemson (14 each)
Golf (Men's) - 1
Golf (Women's) - 0
Gymnastics (Women's) - 0 (0 in EAGL as well)
Indoor Track & Field (Men's) - 26 (1st place overall, Clemson is second at 12)
Indoor Track & Field (Women's) - 0
Lacrosse (Men's) - 25 (1st place overall, Virginia is second at 17)
Lacrosse (Women's) - 8 (1st place overall, Virginia is second at 5)
Outdoor Track & Field (Men's) - 26 (1st place overall, Clemson is second at 11)
Outdoor Track & Field (Women's) - 0
Soccer (Men's) - 21 (1st place overall, Virginia is second at 15)
Soccer (Women's) - 0
Softball - 1
Swimming & Diving (Men's) - 7
Swimming & Diving (Women's) - 1
Tennis (Men's) - 2
Tennis (Women's) - 0
Volleyball - 5 (3rd place overall, UNC is first at 11 and Duke is second at 9)
Wrestling - 24 (1st place overall, UNC is second at 17)




As of May 2014, Maryland claims 47 national championships in the following sports:

Football (2): 1951, 1953
Men's Basketball (1): 2002
Men's Lacrosse (11): 1928, 1936, 1937, 1939, 1940, 1955, 1959, 1967, 1973, 1975
Men's Soccer (3): 1968, 2005, 2008
Competitive Cheer (5): 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2013
Women's Basketball (1): 2006
Women's Field Hockey (8): 1987, 1993, 1999, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2011
Women's Lacrosse (11): 1986, 1992, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2010, 2014
Women's Rifle (1): 1925
Men's Rifle (4): 1947, 1949, 1953, 1954

18 of the 47 national championships have occurred since 2000.

 

[whaler11]

Oh good another Big 10/ACC p!ssing match.

Why would anyone from any school in the P5 care about CR at this point in time. Nothing is going on and you all have your immunity from financial ruin.

Seriously so insecure about teams that you don't play for or represent in any fashion that you have to battle other insecure posters on a message board that isn't about any of your schools?

 

[billybud]

But...importantly...Maryland football has not been good of late.

Maryland has had good women's Lacrosse and Field Hockey and men's Soccer of late...., I don't watch much Field Hockey or Lacrosse so I had no idea that was Maryland's power programs.

 

[billybud]

Oh good another Big 10/ACC p!ssing match.

Why would anyone from any school in the P5 care about CR at this point in time. Nothing is going on and you all have your immunity from financial ruin.

Seriously so insecure about teams that you don't play for or represent in any fashion that you have to battle other insecure posters on a message board that isn't about any of your schools?

CR will always be interesting because of its drama...winners, losers, angst. It is As the World Turns for the sports junkie.

And, many think that the tectonic plates of CR are still slowly grinding. With the subduction of conferences, hot spots appearing, occasional tremors..and the possibility of a Mt. St. Helens, CR is the hot topic of off seasons.

 

[Dooley]

Circling this p1ssing match back to what really matters: UCONN would be an excellent fit for (my conference) because...

And go!