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In reality, UCF was never in the discussion. P5 will do what is needed to preserve their power.
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Damn right ; but, finding the best team is what matters in FCS. In FBS, or whatever its called nowadays, its about the money and the ego.
I did see that UMaine trashed Jacksonville St. A Florida team playing in Maine in December, now that's home field advantage. Oh, where's our old friend from James Madison? The Dukes got beat by Colgate, who will now be given the opportunity to not get crushed by North Dakota St.
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This was the easiest route for the Committee. Oklahoma looked more impressive tham Ohio St and Georgia had 2 losses. Putting UGA in over Oklahaoma/Ohio St/ND would have caused an internal brawl. UCF was never in the discussion. That said, ND may still be concnered because it looks to have been a close vote and if ND can't get in after an undefeated season, then, well. Also, the B1G is still not going to be happy having missed out on the playoffs for 3 years now. They can break either the XII (taking Kansas and Oklahoma) or the ACC (taking UVA, UNC, and Duke) sooner than later maybe in their best interest.
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Agree. Notre Dame's best game on its resume - by FAR - was a close week 1 win against Michigan. The same Michigan team who Ohio State just dismantled last week.
And also in the same opponent match game, Notre Dame beat Northwestern by 10 when Ohio State beat them by 21.
Notre Dame is in the Playoff based on smoke and mirrors. They are going to get absolutely throttled by Clemson.
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If you think Notre Dame played a light schedule, take a look at Clemson's slate.
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No question the ACC had a down year. Anytime Syracuse and BC are/were ranked, you know the ACC had a down year. At least Clemson played a 13th game though. I thought a 13th game should be the minimum if you play against a mediocre schedule, but apparently not. Notre Dame can effectively schedule light every year and, if they run the table, they're in. No reason to join the ACC now.
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OSU was robbed. 12-1 record. Beats #4 last week, wins their CCG this week, and gets left out for a team that played one less game than everyone else and didn't even win their conference.
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Lost to Purdue by 29. Should've lost to Maryland. Not a chance in hell.
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PS - The full rankings came out - #1 Alabma, #2 Clemson, #3 ND, #4 Oklahoma, #5 Georgia, #6 Ohio St. I bet #7 was Michigan and #8 was finally UCF. To go undefeated for 2 years and not to get even close to being selected for the playoffs. The entire thing is rigged. The only good new here is that it appears it was a close vote between Oklahoma and Georgia while Ohio St appears not to have been considered for the #4 seed. The B1G may not let that pass unanswered, which is godo for those looking to destroy the current playoff model and/or chaos.
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UCF has got this.
LSU isn't as good on offense as half the AAC, and they have liabilities defensively. Greedy Williams in particular is an awful player that has gotten scorched by good receivers all year - UCF needs to target himm
LSU isn't as good on offense as half the AAC, and they have liabilities defensively. Greedy Williams in particular is an awful player that has gotten scorched by good receivers all year - UCF needs to target himm
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I know that there are still contractual obligations with certain bowls for certain conferences; but, the fact that #8, undefeated and conference champion UCF is assigned to the Fiesta Bowl against #11 LSU who has 3 loses and came in 3rd in their division (not conference) says a lot. Its fear. Because if UCF beats LSU, then P5 mouthpieces will remind everyone that LSU lost 3 games, got shut-out by Alabama, almost lost to lowly Arkansas, and forgot how to play defense against A&M for the reason that UCF is still not good enough to be in the playoffs.
Now, if they wanted UCF to finally prove themselves on the field (winning isn't the issues here, it's the money), UCF would be playing Georgia in the Fiesta or Peach Bowl with Florida or LSU taking Georgia's spot to play a Texas team with 4 losses. That would have matched-up 2 of the next 3 highest ranked teams as the B1G is contractually required to send their best team, Ohio St, to the Rose Bowl unless that team is selected for the playoffs. The problem here for the P5 is that they have already stated that Georgia should have been in the playoffs because they just lost to #1 Alabama, while fogetting that LSU trashed the Dawgs. So, if UCF beat Georgia, what would have been the excuse not to have them in the playoffs? That was a question to be avoided at all costs.
If UCF wins, their win streak keeps going. 26 games would be historic. 25 is historic, as is.
Longest NCAA Division I football winning streaks - Wikipedia
And then, if they keep winning next season...
A UCF win would still be huge for them and the conference.
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Greedy is going to be a Top 5-8 pick, lol. He shut down people all year. What are you talking about?
He also isn't even going to play in the game. LSUs D is going to present a HUGE problem for UCF.
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Must have missed the Bama game; he got destroyed in that game. He also struggled vs the likes of Louisiana Tech.
If he played at UTEP or Ball State, he would go undrafted. He is not very good.
No they shouldn’t they lost their starting QB
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So
After week 8, Pro Football Focus had this to say about Greedy:
4. GREEDY WILLIAMS, LSU – CORNERBACK
Week 3 Draft Board rank: 5th (+1)
Williams has allowed a 40.1 passer rating into his coverage, just 0.5 points higher than if the quarterback threw the ball in the dirt on every pass,
He would go undrafted, yet because he plays for LSU some NFL team is going to take him in the top 10? Makes sense. Getting beat once or twice does not mean you suck. He plays on an island basically 100% of the time.
After week 8, Pro Football Focus had this to say about Greedy:
4. GREEDY WILLIAMS, LSU – CORNERBACK
Week 3 Draft Board rank: 5th (+1)
Williams has allowed a 40.1 passer rating into his coverage, just 0.5 points higher than if the quarterback threw the ball in the dirt on every pass,
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That's the fun thing about bowl season. UCF has 4 weeks to become a team centered around Mack vs Milton. Its like a fall camp in December. They might be a very different team in January, which I'd imagine is a concern if you're LSU.
Also, regarding the SEC-hate and P5 bias posts, LSU is really freaking good. Friendly reminder that the SEC has 8 teams in the top 20 of the Sagarin ratings. And looking at LSU's schedule, I'm not sure UCF wins 8 vs it. Still, UCF matches up decently with LSU.
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Even if so, it doesn't matter. What matters is the fact that ND (as an independent playing 12 games) got into the playoffs.
That cements ND's independent football status for the foreseeable future, helps with recruiting and places it (along with 3 ten or more win seasons in 4 years and a 22-3 record in the past two seasons) back right where it wants to be as a program.
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The Committee spokesman said yesterday that there was absolutely no dissent or controversy regarding the votes for #1, #2 and #3. The only debate was Oklahoma vs. Ohio State for #4.
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Agreed. Notre Dame getting into the Playoff with 12 games versus everyone else's 13 cements their independence for the foreseeable future. Committee really dropped the ball here. Ohio State's 12 wins were far more impressive than Notre Dame's 12 wins.
Aside: the Big 12 must be seeing red right now. They fought hard against having a Championship Game for the last 6 years or so. They were constantly told that the 13th data point was so important and that their round robin champion was not as impressive as other conferences' championship game champions. The Big 12 flirted with expansion just to add members to create a championship game but ultimately decided that playing 2 marquee games, even if it's a rematch, would be better. And in Year ONE of Big 12 CCG in the new CPB Playoff era, all that championship game / 13th data point was washed away like a fart in the breeze to put in 12 game Notre Dame (with a mediocre schedule).
The Sweetheart Deals continue for Notre Dame. It really pays to be a founding member of college football's Old Money Club.
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Just like it was 'unanimous' to invite Louisville over UConn into the ACC. The official vote is also a face-savings exercise. It's what happens before that is of interest. The Committee did not help itsle by posting its official rankings (does not show actual votes/points):
#1 Alabama, #2 Clemson, #3 Notre Dame, #4 Oklahoma, #5 Georgia, #6 Ohio St, #7 Michigan, #8 UCF, #9 Washington, #10 Florida.
College Football Playoff
Several committee members when talking to the press emphasized that Oklahoma's conference title win was better than Ohio St's and also referenced the strength of Georgia's loss to Alabama. I would wager that ND lack of a conference title was discussed at length internally as its clear that an unblemished record carries less weight than a title. Not inviting an undefeated ND into the playoffs would, of course, have consequences, too. Naturally, an unblemished record and a conference title seems to carry no weight for teams outside of the P5.
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