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Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
There has to be something physically, mentally or emotionally wrong with him.

He had a fantastic start of the season scoring very efficiently but has put up some real poopy play lately.
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Not hard to figure it out: The opponents got quicker and tougher. Doesn't have the quickness to get by without someone stripping him, never had the jump shot to keep anyone honest. But he still thinks he can, so he tries and takes a bad, forced shot or turns it over. He also plays heavy.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
So, we're all looking at next year, I assume?

On the current roster I'd keep Gilbert, Wilson, Vital, Polley. You've got Akok, Bouknight and Gaffney coming in. I'm +/- on Whaley and Carlton, because both have length and, I would hope, the ability to improve enough to at least spell starters and contribute fouls when a few minutes are needed. And B. Adams, +/- also. That leaves 3-6 spots available.

Priorities: Big men, and shooters.

In the group above there are two solid point/lead guards (Gilbert, Gaffney). A long athletic 4 (Akok), a four who usually can shoot (Polley, the last two games notwithstanding). An athletic 3 who can't shoot (Wilson). And a SG/SF who can we think can shoot (Bouknight). That's not enough. Getting Cockburn would be big, Cockburn and Wahab bigger. I'd also load up on additional size, almost regardless of rank, and guys who can shoot, almost regardless of rank.

But all of them have to show some BB IQ or don't bring them in. We used to have the hoop-smartest team in the NCAA on the floor. Now we have the back row of the class.
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I forgot about Diarra, but can you blame me?
 
Prior to this season, the only way this team was going to be any good is for Adams, Vital and AG to be one of the top backcourts in the country... they are not that in any way... mostly because Adams never elevated his game.. They are still very good but they have to play impeccable to beat a real good UCF team. We have absolutely no inside game on both sides of the ball. We can all bitch and moan for the rest of the year but until we get new blood next year, get used to this....
 
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StepbackCity said:
Alterique is the best player on this team and it isn’t close. He’s going to have a much better career than Jalen.
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That's not saying much. And AG plays like he's the only one on the floor.
 
casual-yardin said:
Idiotic. Kid put up something like 25/6/4/3 three days ago playing 38 minutes. This thread is peak 'yardin.
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You must also be a Carmelo Anthony fan. A guy that puts up numbers, disappears in crunch time, makes stupid mistakes by forcing the issue and leaves wide open shooters standing there as he goes one on three with his head down.
 
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superjohn said:
The majority of our team are guys that had no business ever getting a UConn scholarship. It's what happens when a coach runs the program into the ground, you can keep hoping they will become impact players but it ain't going to happen. Jalen was a top 25 recruit coming out of high school and the #5 point guard in the nation. He's now a senior (old for his class) and he's not doing anything positively to help this team grow and win games.
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What can Jalen do to make Polley hit an open 3? I agree Jalen's habits and demeanor leave much to be desired. But it is a team sport. BTW, I expect to see us improve over time. That is how I will evaluate the coaches. Do we improve from here on out? We better, since we are pretty much at the bottom now.
 
housekeys said:
What can Jalen do to make Polley hit an open 3? I agree Jalen's habits and demeanor leave much to be desired. But it is a team sport. BTW, I expect to see us improve over time. That is how I will evaluate the coaches. Do we improve from here on out? We better, since we are pretty much at the bottom now.
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Be the senior, leader, and best player on the team everybody thought he could be.

It’s not happened and it won’t happen. He plays like a freshman.

Time to move on. I’m sure he’s a great kid, but enough time has been wasted on him
 
I really think the 3 guard lineup is a core issue with this team. I get that the talent is weak at other positions, but we aren’t doing ourselves any favors by having three undersized guards on the floor all the time. We have had our asses kicked by a forward in just about every game lately, and this is a core reason. It’s not too hard to score at 6’6” when you’re guarded by a 5’11” guard.
 
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Block C said:
The players are doing whatever they want out there. It’s not coaching it’s the players not keeping there head in the game. They gave up
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That didn’t fly with last coach so I cannot allow that excuse for this one.
 
Forte said:
Looked very much like K.O.'s
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Diving s little bit is the ONLY difference this year. Vital was bound to improve as he’s a 3 yr starter as a junior. Cobb losing weight I guess counts. We have a free trainer at my job. 7 people have now run marathons within the last 18 months. Not me. Why wouldn’t Cobb tighten up? Oh Hurley stands like ko used to as well.
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
There has to be something physically, mentally or emotionally wrong with him.

He had a fantastic start of the season scoring very efficiently but has put up some real poopy play lately.
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That’s my point exactly.
 
Griffman said:
Prior to this season, the only way this team was going to be any good is for Adams, Vital and AG to be one of the top backcourts in the country... they are not that in any way... mostly because Adams never elevated his game.. They are still very good but they have to play impeccable to beat a real good UCF team. We have absolutely no inside game on both sides of the ball. We can all bitch and moan for the rest of the year but until we get new blood next year, get used to this....
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We were good when Cobb was getting double-doubles. For whatever reason that is gone now. He was the only hope for the front court. When he was relegated to the bench he lost all semblance of looking like he new what the hell is going on out there. Lost motivation, confidence or connection with the team, idk. And yes I know he always sucked at D, but the double-doubles were nice.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
So, we're all looking at next year, I assume?

On the current roster I'd keep Gilbert, Wilson, Vital, Polley. You've got Akok, Bouknight and Gaffney coming in. I'm +/- on Whaley and Carlton, because both have length and, I would hope, the ability to improve enough to at least spell starters and contribute fouls when a few minutes are needed. And B. Adams, +/- also. That leaves 3-6 spots available.

Priorities: Big men, and shooters.

In the group above there are two solid point/lead guards (Gilbert, Gaffney). A long athletic 4 (Akok), a four who usually can shoot (Polley, the last two games notwithstanding). An athletic 3 who can't shoot (Wilson). And a SG/SF who can we think can shoot (Bouknight). That's not enough. Getting Cockburn would be big, Cockburn and Wahab bigger. I'd also load up on additional size, almost regardless of rank, and guys who can shoot, almost regardless of rank.

But all of them have to show some BB IQ or don't bring them in. We used to have the hoop-smartest team in the NCAA on the floor. Now we have the back row of the class.
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A few Michael haynes’ would bode well for our roster.
 
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Balker said:
I really think the 3 guard lineup is a core issue with this team. I get that the talent is weak at other positions, but we aren’t doing ourselves any favors by having three undersized guards on the floor all the time. We have had our asses kicked by a forward in just about every game lately, and this is a core reason. It’s not too hard to score at 6’6” when you’re guarded by a 5’11” guard.
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In a way, we're doing ourselves a favor because otherwise we'd have to start 3 of Polley, Wilson, Whaley, Cobb, and Carlton. 3(!).

Give me the 3 guards and scrapping for rebounds.
 
Milo65 said:
You must also be a Carmelo Anthony fan. A guy that puts up numbers, disappears in crunch time, makes stupid mistakes by forcing the issue and leaves wide open shooters standing there as he goes one on three with his head down.
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Future hof-er Carmelo Anthony?
 
Balker said:
I really think the 3 guard lineup is a core issue with this team. I get that the talent is weak at other positions, but we aren’t doing ourselves any favors by having three undersized guards on the floor all the time. We have had our asses kicked by a forward in just about every game lately, and this is a core reason. It’s not too hard to score at 6’6” when you’re guarded by a 5’11” guard.
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Problem is we have no true SF's on this team. I was hoping Sid could come into this role, but he's nowhere near ready yet. Polley is much too slow. Give me a Giffey right now.
 
Jay-Bone said:
Problem is we have no true SF's on this team. I was hoping Sid could come into this role, but he's nowhere near ready yet. Polley is much too slow. Give me a Giffey right now.
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Yeah, I mean I get it. And maybe this is what Hurley means when he says “blow it up”. Play Whaley, Polley and Wilson more with Carlton.

But I think there are other issues too with the three guards. I have yet to see all three play effectively together, no one is being accountable for their role, because it’s shared. They fail to effectively utilize their speed, don’t spread the floor or turn over the other team. Was there a single fast break point scored in this game? It just isn’t working.

Even if the team is less talented with a two guard lineup, at least it will be a better matchup for our opponents and might be the best team we can put on the floor.
 
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Jay-Bone said:
Problem is we have no true SF's on this team. I was hoping Sid could come into this role, but he's nowhere near ready yet. Polley is much too slow. Give me a Giffey right now.
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I disagree. We have no centers leaving below average and small pfs to play the position.
 
With all this, to add to the confusion. How did we flat out dominate the oboards????!!!
 
MervthePurvis said:
I disagree. We have no centers leaving below average and small pfs to play the position.
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I meant problem with his post that the 3 guard isn't working, not problem with the team in general.
 
Bigger problem is that when things go bad around here the last few years they go nuclear and snowball. Kofi, I pray not, is giving me the chills and I can see some guys thinking of other options. God I hope not. That would be the death knell. This style will either stir interests for pt or scare guys off. They all want to win at the end of the day and pro aspirations or not, want to have great memories of college Head bang
 
Besides Gilbert and vital, no one could score. Jalen had 8 and I was expecting 20. Cobb and Carlton have combined for like 10 points in 4 games, they can’t score. Idk what’s up with Polley bc he can’t hit the 3 anymore. Sid needs to develop. It’s easy to see that at times he’s not comfortable out there yet. He will be a great player come 2020
 
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