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Tyler Phommachanh

Palatine said:
Zion has been protecting the football much better as time goes on. He has had one fumble and no INTs in the last two games. That is a good sign and the reason for optimism.

He has some issues with accuracy especially on short passes. He doesn't seem to get through his progression even with time. If his primary receiver isn't open, he has trouble. Right now it is more important for our QB not to be a liability. The jury is still out whether he develop into an asset. But players do improve.

That is what I see in Zion.
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I agree he has certainly improved in being a good game steward/manager. I’m not sure there is a higher ceiling with him. Time will tell.
 
businesslawyer said:
Mora needs to be aggressive in the portal for a QB even if he expects Roberson at 100% for the start of next year, and he can’t be sure of that. Good for everyone that we’re getting better with a second string true frosh backup playing, but the stats are what they are. We still don’t know that we have an average FBS QB on the roster — one who would start on a team ranked between 60 and 80 —and we need one.

I’m not telling you that one of the QBs on our roster can’t get there. But none has yet. And ZT’s guts and leadership aside, and Tyler Phommachanh’s energy when he came in last year aside, and Roberson’s HS recruiting ranking aside as he has less than one game on the field of experience, none of them have proven that level of proficiency yet.
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I don't think that is the plan unless a QB transfers as there will be 5 scholarship QBs on the roster. And, I think expectations are way too high for how a true freshman QB should play (unless they are a clear high 4*/5*), especially given the injuries to most of the top offensive skill players. Do you remember Dan Orlovsky? Here are his freshman stats compared to ZT and TP:

Dan O: 10 games: 128 for 269, 47.6%, 1379 yards, 5.1 yards per attempt, 9 TDs, 11 INTs, QB rating 93.5

TP: 3 games: 35 for 72, 48.6%, 321 yards, 4.5 yards per attempt, 1 TD, 2 INTs, QB rating 85.1

ZT: 7 games: 76 for 132, 57.6%, 661 yards, 5.0 yards per attempt, 5 TDs, 3 INTs, QB rating 107.6

Personally, I think the bigger needs for transfers are a big RB, LBs, and a DB. And, if you can find a very good player you take him regardless of position.
 
ZooCougar said:
No. He’s probably getting a deserved medical redshirt year and getting 110% healthy.
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110%? You would think with the full season off he could at least be like 182% healthy.
 
UConnJim said:
As for stats, I would give the nod to ZT so far:

Tyler Phommachanh: 35 of 72 48.6%, 321 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 5 sacks, 85.09 QB rating. Rushing: 24 for 92 yards, 2 TDs,

ZT; 76 for 132 57.6%, 661 yards, 5 TDs, 3 INTs, 9 sacks, 107.59 QB rating. Rushing: 49 for 99 yards, 1 TD.
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Yeah, I don’t know how fair of a comparison this is given that Zion has a much better line in front of him. It seemed like Tyler was running for his life on every single play.
 
businesslawyer said:
Mora needs to be aggressive in the portal for a QB even if he expects Roberson at 100% for the start of next year, and he can’t be sure of that. Good for everyone that we’re getting better with a second string true frosh backup playing, but the stats are what they are. We still don’t know that we have an average FBS QB on the roster — one who would start on a team ranked between 60 and 80 —and we need one.

I’m not telling you that one of the QBs on our roster can’t get there. But none has yet. And ZT’s guts and leadership aside, and Tyler Phommachanh’s energy when he came in last year aside, and Roberson’s HS recruiting ranking aside as he has less than one game on the field of experience, none of them have proven that level of proficiency yet.
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It's highly unlikely Mora will be able to bring in a QB more talented than Zion Turner this offseason.
 
superjohn said:
Watch his high school film, he does have a big arm.
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I definitely think he has a legit D1 arm but I think there are a group QB's above him that belong in a separate group for arm strength.
 
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superjohn said:
It's highly unlikely Mora will be able to bring in a QB more talented than Zion Turner this offseason.
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With the team trending up, there are likely to be some P5 QB3s thinking I could play there and win...
 
Palatine said:
Zion has been protecting the football much better as time goes on. He has had one fumble and no INTs in the last two games. That is a good sign and the reason for optimism.

He has some issues with accuracy especially on short passes. He doesn't seem to get through his progression even with time. If his primary receiver isn't open, he has trouble. Right now it is more important for our QB not to be a liability. The jury is still out whether he develop into an asset. But players do improve.

That is what I see in Zion.
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If he doubles his passing production, you can absolutely say this. I don't throw interceptions and have only slightly less passing yardage per game than ZT. No turnovers is great, but that is a partly a function of reduced ambition in play calling.
 
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UConnJim said:
I don't think that is the plan unless a QB transfers as there will be 5 scholarship QBs on the roster. And, I think expectations are way too high for how a true freshman QB should play (unless they are a clear high 4*/5*), especially given the injuries to most of the top offensive skill players. Do you remember Dan Orlovsky? Here are his freshman stats compared to ZT and Tyler Phommachanh:

Dan O: 10 games: 128 for 269, 47.6%, 1379 yards, 5.1 yards per attempt, 9 TDs, 11 INTs, QB rating 93.5

Tyler Phommachanh: 3 games: 35 for 72, 48.6%, 321 yards, 4.5 yards per attempt, 1 TD, 2 INTs, QB rating 85.1

ZT: 7 games: 76 for 132, 57.6%, 661 yards, 5.0 yards per attempt, 5 TDs, 3 INTs, QB rating 107.6

Personally, I think the bigger needs for transfers are a big RB, LBs, and a DB. And, if you can find a very good player you take him regardless of position.
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Excellent post and ZT has played against a tougher schedule than DO and TP. Nothing is complete at this point but when we get a full group of D1 wideouts then evaluations can be made.
 
UConnJim said:
Mazzone was on staff when Tyler Phommachanh played QB.
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Chin Diesel said:
Gotta be honest. Did not see the last part of your statement coming. That was a way from left field comparison. Physically about the same size and Drew never had a cannon but Zion is light years away from Drew's touch and precision.
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So you don't think Zion is as good as Drew? Good observation.
 
DoctorWho85 said:
If Tyler is indeed ready to go, they should play him at RB with the absolute decimation with injuries.
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Wow that had to be one of the dumbest comments I have ever seen on the boneyard
 
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Mazzone consulted for the rest of the season. After 2-3 weeks it was remote work. They were only paying him a fairly modest stipend.
 
ZooCougar said:
Mazzone consulted for the rest of the season. After 2-3 weeks it was remote work. They were only paying him a fairly modest stipend.
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Really? I thought he worked 2-3 weeks and was gone. He made the offense go but the minute he was off the sideline we went right back to running up the gut 3 times. I guess he may have consulted but the coaches on the field did not do what he was having us do.
 
From Mike Anthony CT Insider article Nov 12, 2021, regarding keeping members of current staff...

seems to infer Mazzone was on staff from Sept 15 until time of article.



“We were a pretty wide open offense at UCLA,” Mora said. “We went fast. We spread the field. We threw the ball well. We ran the ball well. We had some balance in the things we did.”

After UCLA, Mazzone was offensive coordinator at Texas A&M (2016-17) and Arizona (2018-20).

Mazzone, who has been working both on campus and virtually from home, was hired by UConn Sept. 15 — nine days after Spanos was promoted.
 
Hoophound said:
Really? I thought he worked 2-3 weeks and was gone. He made the offense go but the minute he was off the sideline we went right back to running up the gut 3 times. I guess he may have consulted but the coaches on the field did not do what he was having us do.
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Once Tyler was out we couldn’t execute that way.
 
I wish zion could at least run the ball while also throwing in the low hundreds
 
We need to get Tyler P on the field. Something got to change. This second half against Ball State was beyond horrific even with bias refs calling everything for ball state.
 
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