Transfer Stats - Jackson, Durham & Enoch

[upstater]

Boatright carried the team (non tournament team) because Bazz was gone and it was now his team. He was finally the man and given the keys, his numbers went up slightly from his sophomore year. The best ball Boatright played here was in the tourny his junior year.

Boatright improved greatly that year, no matter how much you deny it.

 

[Towney007]

If these guys all improved and we were still that bad, then that's something else.

 

[superjohn]

Boatright improved greatly that year, no matter how much you deny it.

Boatright- Sophomore stats- 15.4 ppg, 4.4 assists, 3 turnovers, 3 rebounds, 1.5 steals, strength of schedule 7.42.
Senior stats- 17.4 ppg, 3.8 assists, 2.4 turnovers, 4 rebounds, 1.4 steals, strength of schedule 4.22.

 

[MDHuskFan]

Boatright- Sophomore stats- 15.4 ppg, 4.4 assists, 3 turnovers, 3 rebounds, 1.5 steals, strength of schedule 7.42.
Senior stats- 17.4 ppg, 3.8 assists, 2.4 turnovers, 4 rebounds, 1.4 steals, strength of schedule 4.22.

Don’t use stats to support your argument. That’s against boneyard rules

 

[upstater]

Don’t use stats to support your argument. That’s against boneyard rules

OK you guys are right, Boatright didn't improve!! All because of Ollie.

 

[Towney007]

He was in over his head.

Tactically, is 'offensive' sets were over the heads of the kids he was playing. Worse yet, he'd keep on doing it even when it wasn't working. I can count on two hands the times I saw them run half court offense and the team was actively not pushing the ball. Defensively, they were pretty good, so I can't fault him there.

His recruiting was lazy. And at times neglected.

Yes, transfers happen everywhere, but not to core guy you just got done fighting recruiting battles in order to get. Maybe Jackson's dad was a , but how do you not figure this out during recruiting? Did he not see how green Enoch was when he recruited him? Every year from 2015-on was more and more duct tape - and even crazier than that - he didn't have as many scholarships to have to use. There's literally no excuse.

Rumors of the issues on the staff, staff turnover, poor strength and conditioning - he was pretty bad there.

He alienated a lot of alumni and especially Jim Calhoun.

And administratively he was just sloppy. The NCAA violations were sloppy, lazy violations. But again - that's how everything else in the program was treated. He was coasting or trying to. Or was just clueless as to the approach he should take.

I've met Ollie before and my take for a while now is he's just an NBA guy who's not built for the college level. He's the kind of grizzled vet that puts his arm around the rookies and teaches them where to go an eat on the road, helps them buy their first suit, etc. He's Drunk Uncle Kevin - and in the pros - that's a good thing. In college, you need more of a father figure - there was alot of talk of Ollie being too buddy buddy with certain guys and less so with others.. it all kind of sings to that.

Coaching in the NBA is pretty seamless in that you prepare for games, coach guys, meet with your GM and you can be selective every year about what you're bringing in and out of your organization. College is different, there's a lot more administrative BS, there's alums to deal with and kids with a fraction of the talent who take a lot more hands-on care. It's a more comprehensive job.

Then you watch guys this year with this coach, and go elsewhere and work with other coaches and, well... I mean how people just don't see the trend or the common denominator here is absolutely, completely beyond me.

I think it started off as just not being prepared for that kind of responsibility and as things wore on, it got worse and worse - and more obvious that he wasn't ready for that kind of a program. That's why he doesn't have a job. But he was bad at almost every single aspect of being a college head coach at a program this size.

 

[superjohn]

Don’t use stats to support your argument. That’s against boneyard rules

I'm not going to go through every coach who may sacrifice november results for the chance at march rewards because when upstater is dug in on a silly point he will defend the silly point to the death. He says Boatright was night and day his senior year compared to his sophomore year so providing stats showing he was just slightly better will have no effect.

Oh wow looks like he actually tapped out, that's a first.

 

[businesslawyer]

Ed Cooley yesterday. He says he's playing his freshman all the minutes now knowing there will be major pains in November but more likelihood for rewards in March. It happens all the time.

I agree that you might play a young'un who is marginally worse in November to be better in March. The problem with you citing any broad statement like that in support of your point is that Enoch was not marginally worse. He was a total disaster when on the court.

 

[Towney007]

I agree that you might play a young'un who is marginally worse in November to be better in March. The problem with you citing any broad statement like that in support of your point is that Enoch was not marginally worse. He was a total disaster when on the court.

Enoch was a terrible player.

But again - he wasn't going to get better here. Ollie wasn't up to the task and Enoch wasted zero time figuring that out and getting himself into a better situation. Which he did.

 

[Whtdmd]

KO is great with mature players. Look at how much Miller, Gibbs and Purvis love him. He told Rodney during the 14-15 yr that his route to the NBA is via being a defense stopper. Rodney got into the NBA because of his attitude and defense. Now I dont know why people are thinking that Enoch is the 2nd coming of Wilt Chamberlain. He is the 3rd leading scorer in a Louiville team that is beating up on Nichols, Southern and Vermont. He got 3 fouls in 13 minutes vs Southern, 3 rebounds against VM in 25 minutes. Remember, SE tried to transfer during November 2016 and was talked out of it. He never tried hard in his time at UCONN

 

[businesslawyer]

Enoch was a terrible player.

But again - he wasn't going to get better here. Ollie wasn't up to the task and Enoch wasted zero time figuring that out and getting himself into a better situation. Which he did.

Not defending KO's coaching (except as specified in a minute). Not criticizing Enoch for leaving. Not rooting against the young man.

Just saying that any comment that KO is subject to criticism for not playing Enoch more is absurd.

 

[tcf15]

KO is great with mature players. Look at how much Miller, Gibbs and Purvis love him. He told Rodney during the 14-15 yr that his route to the NBA is via being a defense stopper. Rodney got into the NBA because of his attitude and defense. Now I dont know why people are thinking that Enoch is the 2nd coming of Wilt Chamberlain. He is the 3rd leading scorer in a Louiville team that is beating up on Nichols, Southern and Vermont. He got 3 fouls in 13 minutes vs Southern, 3 rebounds against VM in 25 minutes. Remember, SE tried to transfer during November 2016 and was talked out of it. He never tried hard in his time at UCONN

Not sure why you keep ignoring his scoring stats. He is averaging 20 minutes per game and 14 points per game and hitting 88% of his FTs.

 

[JMick]

Not sure why you keep ignoring his scoring stats. He is averaging 20 minutes per game and 14 points per game and hitting 88% of his FTs.

Because that doesn't fit his narrative. He's a St John's loser who pretends to be a doctor even though he can't string a coherent sentence together.