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Wait so you can transfer as much as you want now? I thought you only got one free transfer?
 
Curious as I’m not familiar with transfer rules- Can schools start reaching out as soon as someone enters the portal? Even with the season still going on for schools playing in the tournaments?
 
UCLJ0211 said:
Curious as I’m not familiar with transfer rules- Can schools start reaching out as soon as someone enters the portal? Even with the season still going on for schools playing in the tournaments?
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Yes, can reach out even if they're still playing. And in most cases have already reached out before they officially enter the portal
 
Umami Zen said:
Small sample size for me on Primo.. Would you characterize him as a ball dominant guard or can he play in a system where he's sharing the ball and setting up teammates when needed??

Seemed like he wants the ball in his hands as much as possible.. No question he's a scorer/shot maker. Co-existing with Castle would be essential if added to roster.
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He definitely was ball dominant all season at G'Town but that team was a mess and they needed him to be ball dominant to even stay in games. The shooting numbers are a little ugly but he has the ball on a string, is really quick, and gets in the lane for jumpers and finishes. He's not a defender but Hurley seems to get everyone to at least not be a defensive liability. If he's okay coming in as a first or second off the bench type of scorer/penetrator, I would be all for bringing him in. I actually thought he had some very good passing skills when I watched him but a lot of the time his teammates weren't ready for it and didn't finish.
 
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auror said:
I think they've been pretty lenient with waivers. Coach left? Have a waiver. Graduate? Have a waiver. Sick grandma 3 states over? Waiver.
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I’m an advocate for more freedom for players but sheesh. The free transfer rule is good enough. Lol

Three schools in three years is a lot.
 
auror said:
I think they've been pretty lenient with waivers. Coach left? Have a waiver. Graduate? Have a waiver. Sick grandma 3 states over? Waiver.
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I'm not quite sure I agree with this. He certainly had better %s, but not by that much... and nothing that couldn't be explained but the higher level of play this year in the Big East and a terrible, terrible offensive system.

Personally, the offensive numbers don't concern me--it's the defense. I think you could easily get Primo up to average %s in a better offensive system where he isn't taking 14 freaking 2 points attempts per game, many of them from range. That 115 defensive rating this year was BAD, some of the worst guard defense in the Big East, honestly. I don't know enough about him to say if it was an effort, system, skill, or athleticism thing. I would imagine if we extend an offer, the staff will have figured we can turn him into an average or better defender over the next couple of seasons.

For Tristen's stats, I did all three years at ECU first and just his first two years in quotations to help compare to Primo's first two years. The first two years #s really show just how similar they were.

Primo:

35 minutes

14.4 PPG
2.8 RPG
4.2 APG

1.2 STL
0.1 BLK
2.7 TO
1.6 PF

42% 2FG (10.7 attempts)
30% 3FG (3.1 attempts)
77% FT (3.8 attempts)
47% TS%

4.68 SOS
96 ORTG
115 DRTG

26% AST%
26% USG%
15% TO%

Tristen

32 minutes (30)

13.1 PPG (9.3)
4.6 RPG (4.4)
4.3 APG (3.9)

1.3 STL (1.2)
0.3 BLK (0.3)
2.6 TO (2.0)
2.1 PF (2.0)

46% 2FG (6.1 attempts) (43%, 5.0 attempts)
32% 3FG (3.9 attempts) (30%, 3.4 attempts)
84% FT (4.4 attempts) (82%, 3.4 attempts)
52% TS% (50%)

2.77 SOS (2.83)
103 ORTG (101)
102 DRTG (101)
 
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imno1 said:
Newton has been the better shooter this year and is more versatile than Alleyne.
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Better shooter this year, yes, but for their careers, Alleyne has been a significantly better shooter. I think either could work but with the Alleyne/Castle family connection, I wonder if that has already been discussed.
 
For those complaining about the mid range game of Primo's, think of all the tight games in the closing minutes where we are spinning around the perimeter looking to launch a contested 3.

I am always begging someone to go towards the basket and get/make a good shot. He's that guy
 
AntG168 said:
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Kid turned into a decent player after surprisingly not being heavily recruited. But I wonder how far away he'll move from where he grew up (SE PA) and from his dad (Wilmington, DE). He originally committed to St. Joe's, but switched to George Washington in DC after Martelli was fired. Then didn't play well with an xfer G while at GW, so went to Delaware. But all three schools are in a small geographic zone.
 
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IMO, Nelson is a better option than Primo.
  • Much better defender (2.4 steals/game, 36th best steal rate in the nation and ranks as Delaware's second most efficient defender)
  • An ability to draw fouls (7.1 FTAs, 6.5 fouls drawn/40 (23rd in the nation) and a 78.1 ft% (433rd in the nation)
  • Respectable from the perimeter (although not an asset): 1.7 3PM at a 33.4 3p% across the last two seasons.
He'll get a starting guard gig somewhere in the high-majors.
 
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Hey Adrien! said:
IMO, Nelson is a better option than Primo.
  • Much better defender (2.4 steals/game, 36th best steal rate in the nation and ranks as Delaware's second most efficient defender)
  • An ability to draw fouls (7.1 FTAs, 6.5 fouls drawn/40 (23rd in the nation) and a 78.1 ft% (433rd in the nation)
  • Respectable from the perimeter (although not an asset): 1.7 3PM at a 33.4 3p% across the last two seasons.
He'll get a starting guard gig somewhere in the high-majors.
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I prefer Fernandes over either. I hust don't see how next years team can recruit a sub-35% shooter. We are desperate for perimeter shooting right now.
 
husky429 said:
I prefer Fernandes over either. I hust don't see how next years team can recruit a sub-35% shooter. We are desperate for perimeter shooting right now.
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Just looked at his #s today and they are impressive. His 22-23 stats are a little flukey since he played just 4 A-10 games, but his 21-22 stats are still very good, but his defensive metrics are not impressive.

However, I like how he's a local kid (Mattapoisett, MA, played HS at Woodstock).
 
Hey Adrien! said:
IMO, Nelson is a better option than Primo.
  • Much better defender (2.4 steals/game, 36th best steal rate in the nation and ranks as Delaware's second most efficient defender)
  • An ability to draw fouls (7.1 FTAs, 6.5 fouls drawn/40 (23rd in the nation) and a 78.1 ft% (433rd in the nation)
  • Respectable from the perimeter (although not an asset): 1.7 3PM at a 33.4 3p% across the last two seasons.
He'll get a starting guard gig somewhere in the high-majors.
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Nice fta numbers but will big east refs allow that to continue?
 
husky429 said:
I prefer Fernandes over either. I hust don't see how next years team can recruit a sub-35% shooter. We are desperate for perimeter shooting right now.
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I don't love that he's 5'10 and shot 64% from the ft line this season.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Just looked at his #s today and they are impressive. His 22-23 stats are a little flukey since he played just 4 A-10 games, but his 21-22 stats are still very good, but his defensive metrics are not impressive.

However, I like how he's a local kid (Mattapoisett, MA, played HS at Woodstock).
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Yain't wrong about the defense. 105 isn't excellent... slightly worse than Tristen's junior season--which wasn't great.

I really don't look at defensive metrics for players much when we're recruiting them, even though I'm a defense-first kind of guy. I genuinely believe that Hurley can turn most anyone into an average or better defender. And considering we have a couple of defensive beasts in Andre and Clingan, I'm not terribly concerned.
 
husky429 said:
I prefer Fernandes over either. I hust don't see how next years team can recruit a sub-35% shooter. We are desperate for perimeter shooting right now.
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Nelson shot 36.4% from deep last season at 4.4 attempts per game. That dropped to 30.7% at a higher volume (5.6), but I'm guessing he'd be more selective with a high major.
 
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husky429 said:
You aren't wrong. I just prefer shooting over size if I had to choose between the 2.

I think our ideal transfer for the PG spot is 6'3, can handle it, and give us close to 40% on volume shooting. We don't really need a high-level passer with Andre, Karaban and Castle in the fold... someone to break a press and space the floor is key.
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Agreed, we need a 40% three point shooter to share the backcourt starting duties with Castle, these other transfer guys we're talking about seem more like guys to come off the bench and put up points. Need two bigtime shooters in (transfer) and Karaban starting with Castle, Jackson, and Clingan starting.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
Nelson shot 36.4% from deep last season at 4.4 attempts per game. That dropped to 30.7% at a higher volume (5.6), but I'm guessing he'd be more selective with a high major.
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He also shot 25% at GW for 2 seasons. Coaches would need to dig more into the film to figure out if the 36% is a fluke or not.

What I usually do in those situations is take out the best 3 and worst 3 games, and look at that %s since I don't have access to film. Nelson would be at 38% for the 2022 season... which is pretty solid. Compare that to this year and he's shooting 29% with the best and worst missing.
 
husky429 said:
By far IMO. I would guess the staff agrees considering Luke was the first to call him 5 minutes after he entered the portal. Kids who can shoot 42% from deep on almost 7 attempts per game don't grow on trees.
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Would have to imagine we’re only after a player of his caliber if Newton/Alleyne plan to graduate & Hawk leaves for NBA.

If Newton/Alleyne come back I’m not sure we’ll be in the portal for anyone more than a Joey C replacement.
 
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