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Up to date Vegas odds are probably more realistic than On3
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HooperScooper said:
James Fletcher III not a fan.

James Fletcher works as a Bracketologist and an Associate Editor for On3. He is a University of Alabama graduate from Memphis, Tennessee.

He also still has Darius Adams as an incoming freshman.
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I mean, I get it.
 
HooperScooper said:
James Fletcher III not a fan.

James Fletcher works as a Bracketologist and an Associate Editor for On3. He is a University of Alabama graduate from Memphis, Tennessee.

He also still has Darius Adams as an incoming freshman.
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This makes sense. He has Auburn, Alabama, and Tennessee way too high.
 
BullDawg said:
Up to date Vegas odds are probably more realistic than On3View attachment 109722
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What am missing with Duke? They just lost their entire starting lineup to the draft including 3 lotto picks. How are they still #1? Evans Boozer Ngongba are not even close to Kon Flagg Maluach. They lost Coward to the draft too. I’d never heard of Dame Sarr until last week.
 
bendm said:
What am missing with Duke? They just lost their entire starting lineup to the draft including 3 lotto picks. How are they still #1? Evans Boozer Ngongba are not even close to Kon Flagg Maluach. They lost Coward to the draft too. I’d never heard of Dame Sarr until last week.
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Nothing that list is on drugs. (Though I do think Boozer will be pretty dominant).
 
bendm said:
What am missing with Duke? They just lost their entire starting lineup to the draft including 3 lotto picks. How are they still #1? Evans Boozer Ngongba are not even close to Kon Flagg Maluach. They lost Coward to the draft too. I’d never heard of Dame Sarr until last week.
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I don’t know, but Vegas oddsmakers are unlikely to set odds without good reasons.
 
bendm said:
What am missing with Duke? They just lost their entire starting lineup to the draft including 3 lotto picks. How are they still #1? Evans Boozer Ngongba are not even close to Kon Flagg Maluach. They lost Coward to the draft too. I’d never heard of Dame Sarr until last week.
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They also have this guy(See below) a top 25 pickup and Nikolas Khamenia who is really good. I don't like Duke but it is understandable why they are rated high with the talent they have on their squad.

 
bendm said:
What am missing with Duke? They just lost their entire starting lineup to the draft including 3 lotto picks. How are they still #1? Evans Boozer Ngongba are not even close to Kon Flagg Maluach. They lost Coward to the draft too. I’d never heard of Dame Sarr until last week.
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Sarr was a borderline 1st round prospect this draft and expected lottery pick in the next draft. Cam Boozer is a stud, Evans is a super obvious breakout candidate, and Ngongba also has obvious talent. Foster and Brown give them a nice veteran presence, and Cayden/Khamenia are also capable of contributing.

It’s not the number 1 team, but just on talent alone they must be top 10.
 
Huskyforlife said:
Sarr was a borderline 1st round prospect this draft and expected lottery pick in the next draft. Cam Boozer is a stud, Evans is a super obvious breakout candidate, and Ngongba also has obvious talent. Foster and Brown give them a nice veteran presence, and Cayden/Khamenia are also capable of contributing.

It’s not the number 1 team, but just on talent alone they must be top 10.
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Top 10 Sure but they don’t deserve to be preseason #1 especially in comparison to last years team.
 


Interesting pickup for Gonzaga. Doesn't really fit their normal mode of an efficient, skilled, team player. It looks like they are looking for more athletes on the team.
 
3rdbass said:


Interesting pickup for Gonzaga. Doesn't really fit their normal mode of an efficient, skilled, team player. It looks like they are looking for more athletes on the team.
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Kid is 25. Entered college in 2018 lol
 
aceboon said:
surprising imo when you see all the borderline/2-way contract guys coming back to school for a bigger payday. Luis is basically on that same projection line

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Haven’t seen him in many mock drafts. Feels like he’s getting some bad advice here
 
aceboon said:
surprising imo when you see all the borderline/2-way contract guys coming back to school for a bigger payday. Luis is basically on that same projection line

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Then again, the number of players in a similar range may solidify his being drafted.
 
REB1094 said:
Haven’t seen him in many mock drafts. Feels like he’s getting some bad advice here
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You see this and you have to wonder about overall character. Once he was benched in the last game by Pitino something may have snapped. This really makes no sense unless he knows something no one else does. He could have found a $1m to $2m NIL deal at one of the schools that showed interest.

Now at best he is a round two pick and unless he kills it in pre draft work outs will be looking at a two way contract making way less than he would have if he stayed in college.

All you have to do is look at Alex if you want to see a player/person who is self aware and understands the value of making what he is is making while getting really close to a masters degree in the additional year. I know every one says he graduated in three years but wasn’t it really 3.5 or 4 years based on his redshirt year when he reclassified and was basically just a practice player. Alex will be successful regardless were his journey takes him. Yes last year was a disappointment but I really think him coming back is going to be key to another run at a chip by next years team.

Either way Alex is a role model, Luis Jr not so much…..
 
BullDawg said:
I don’t know, but Vegas oddsmakers are unlikely to set odds without good reasons.
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Unless they know most of the pre season betting money will be on Dook so they set the odds lower just in case a miracle happens and Dook does not choke they end up losing less money. I thought betting lines were impacted by how much money is placed on a team. That would explain the odds for Duke.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
Unless they know most of the pre season betting money will be on Dook so they set the odds lower just in case a miracle happens and Dook does not choke they end up losing less money. I thought betting lines were impacted by how much money is placed on a team. That would explain the odds for Duke.
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Yep. Odds move and change based on betting.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
You see this and you have to wonder about overall character. Once he was benched in the last game by Pitino something may have snapped. This really makes no sense unless he knows something no one else does. He could have found a $1m to $2m NIL deal at one of the schools that showed interest.

Now at best he is a round two pick and unless he kills it in pre draft work outs will be looking at a two way contract making way less than he would have if he stayed in college.

All you have to do is look at Alex if you want to see a player/person who is self aware and understands the value of making what he is is making while getting really close to a masters degree in the additional year. I know every one says he graduated in three years but wasn’t it really 3.5 or 4 years based on his redshirt year when he reclassified and was basically just a practice player. Alex will be successful regardless were his journey takes him. Yes last year was a disappointment but I really think him coming back is going to be key to another run at a chip by next years team.

Either way Alex is a role model, Luis Jr not so much…..
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All of this over one player deciding to return to school and another deciding not to
 
Lafayette said:
Well if it's Dook vs the field, I take the field.

I morally cannot ever bet for Dook.
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i bet on them sometimes to protect myself .... if i have to suffer thru all the Duke-love after a National title, i need to at least make some $$ from it
like last season, more than happy to lose bet and see Duke get eliminated (have done same with Mets this year)
 
Hunt for 7 said:
You see this and you have to wonder about overall character. Once he was benched in the last game by Pitino something may have snapped. This really makes no sense unless he knows something no one else does. He could have found a $1m to $2m NIL deal at one of the schools that showed interest.

Now at best he is a round two pick and unless he kills it in pre draft work outs will be looking at a two way contract making way less than he would have if he stayed in college.

All you have to do is look at Alex if you want to see a player/person who is self aware and understands the value of making what he is is making while getting really close to a masters degree in the additional year. I know every one says he graduated in three years but wasn’t it really 3.5 or 4 years based on his redshirt year when he reclassified and was basically just a practice player. Alex will be successful regardless were his journey takes him. Yes last year was a disappointment but I really think him coming back is going to be key to another run at a chip by next years team.

Either way Alex is a role model, Luis Jr not so much…..
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Luis is cooked. He shot poorly in tryouts, but yes, something snapped with him...while it goes as an asterisk if he is drafter late 2nd round, it should raise eyebrows on Pitino.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
You see this and you have to wonder about overall character. Once he was benched in the last game by Pitino something may have snapped. This really makes no sense unless he knows something no one else does. He could have found a $1m to $2m NIL deal at one of the schools that showed interest.

Now at best he is a round two pick and unless he kills it in pre draft work outs will be looking at a two way contract making way less than he would have if he stayed in college.

All you have to do is look at Alex if you want to see a player/person who is self aware and understands the value of making what he is is making while getting really close to a masters degree in the additional year. I know every one says he graduated in three years but wasn’t it really 3.5 or 4 years based on his redshirt year when he reclassified and was basically just a practice player. Alex will be successful regardless were his journey takes him. Yes last year was a disappointment but I really think him coming back is going to be key to another run at a chip by next years team.

Either way Alex is a role model, Luis Jr not so much…..
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I see this and I wonder but his decision making, you see it and wonder about his overall character? Wtf is an overall character? Why the comparison with Alex and then the disparaging comment RJ about him not being a role model? As far as I have researched I don't think he has ever been in trouble. Different paths for different people. He had an excellent season and one bad game does that make him not so much a role model?
 

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