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boog204 said:
That was with, let's be honest, crappy offenses that relied on tiny guards having to go one-on-one and ISO. The way Luke/Dan Hurley want to play now, both offensively and defensively, kind of prioritizes having bigger guards. Why do you think we're bringing legit 3 6-5/6-6 guard types? Dan Hurley even said it early in the year that our offense is missing size in the backcourt.
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Do we think Kemba, Shabazz, and Boatright wouldn’t have been able to run this offense though?

Huskyforlife said:
I was gonna post a take that we might have to settle for a non big guard because people don't realize how rare quality tall guards actually are. If we can get a Diarra level defender with more offensive/playmaking upside, that'll likely have to be enough.

If Stirtz comes back to college, we're gonna be competing with EVERYONE for his services, before acknowledging his previous allegiance. That goes for anyone of his caliber.
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Exactly. Big guard might have to be 6’2 or 6’3 because guards 6’5 and up just aren’t realistically available.
 
navery12 said:
I don't really have any reason for thinking this, but I've just had a feeling all season that if Bennett Stirtz is in college next season it'll be in a UConn jersey. Hopefully it happens
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Just keep putting that thought out there in the universe and it could bring it closer to reality.
 
navery12 said:
I don't really have any reason for thinking this, but I've just had a feeling all season that if Bennett Stirtz is in college next season it'll be in a UConn jersey. Hopefully it happens
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I agree with the first half of your first sentence.
 
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navery12 said:
I don't really have any reason for thinking this, but I've just had a feeling all season that if Bennett Stirtz is in college next season it'll be in a UConn jersey. Hopefully it happens
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If the his coach gets the Iowa job I would assume he follows him there
 
Agent0 said:
If the his coach gets the Iowa job I would assume he follows him there
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While it’s possible, nothing is ever a slam dunk with NIL in the mix. He’s going to be a senior, if he’s bypassing draft as a projected second rounder, $$ will be part of the equation. Not sure what Iowa’s NIL is.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Do we think Kemba, Shabazz, and Boatright wouldn’t have been able to run this offense though?


Exactly. Big guard might have to be 6’2 or 6’3 because guards 6’5 and up just aren’t realistically available.
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I consider a "big" point guard to be above 6'2". We don't need them to be Tristen Newton-sized.

However, we currently have a slightly undersized 2 guard in Ball (6'3" with long arms but not great lateral movement). Ideally you'd like a bigger point if you can find one.
 
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Excalibur said:
I consider a "big" point guard to be above 6'2". We don't need them to be Tristen Newton-sized.

However, we currently have a slightly undersized 2 guard in Ball (6'3" with long arms but not great lateral movement). Ideally you'd like a bigger point if you can find one.
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There’s a solution to help all parties in this. But it would involve skill development lol

We’ll see if we can find the rare 6’5 PG though. It’s like finding an athletic 7’.
 
All the tall PGs would have been snapped up by top programs already. You're basically looking for the kids who had late growth spurts who ended up at no-name programs because no one thought they'd develop that way physically.
 
NHUConnfan said:
All the tall PGs would have been snapped up by top programs already. You're basically looking for the kids who had late growth spurts who ended up at no-name programs because no one thought they'd develop that way physically.
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They’re definitely not aplenty - why Sturtz is going to at least see what the highest bidder is offering, not just blindly follow to Iowa.
 
caw said:
He would fit well with a Reibe type center though.
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The trouble with that, is if Malik can only play with Reibe, and Reibe is coming off the bench behind Reed, then the Reibe/Malik combo is limited to 15-20mpg game. Reed is gonna start and average 20-25.
 
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gtcam said:
Over the top BS
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The standards of development used to be Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton, Butler, Emeka, etc. These guys went back to back to back and the list goes on.

Now the board wants to tout fringe NBA guys and 2nd rounders as standards of development. Different expectations I suppose.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
The standards of development used to be Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton, Butler, Emeka, etc. These guys went back to back to back and the list goes on.

Now the board wants to tout fringe NBA guys and 2nd rounders as standards of development. Different expectations I suppose.
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If you’re looking to reinvent the 90s you probably want to see if there is a Time Machine rental nearby.

I’m not sure why anyone keeps referencing any era of hoops as a benchmark earlier than 3-4 years ago.
 
RuffRuff said:
If you’re looking to reinvent the 90s you probably want to see if there is a Time Machine rental nearby.

I’m not sure why anyone keeps referencing any era of hoops as a benchmark earlier than 3-4 years ago.
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Are we saying we shouldn’t expect great players anymore to the level past guys were at?

We’re happy with not seeing these kind of stars anymore?
 
RuffRuff said:
This may be the longest week in this history of college hoops - it's like a drum roll that doesn't stop playing, and we are filling the blanks in with digital hangings and talking about how development should be that of 35 years ago. The game can't get here fast enough.
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Just wait until the tournament is over :confused:
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
Are we saying we shouldn’t expect great players anymore to the level past guys were at?

We’re happy with not seeing these kind of stars anymore?
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What I'm saying is that you tend to indulge in long term development, unrealistically and comparatively to era's that are so different they're entirely not relevant. Do you not realize kids during Ray's era had to stay in school for 3 years, and had to sit out a year if they transferred? You had no choice but to develop and once you wed yourself to a HS recruit, you were generally stuck with them and they with you. Also, in most cases, you won on a senior group of players that developed together into an NC team and after they won/departed, you'd often have to reset to build back up sacrificing NC opportunity for development years. None of this applies anymore.
 
RuffRuff said:
What I'm saying is that you tend to indulge in long term development, unrealistically and comparatively to era's that are so different they're entirely not relevant. Do you not realize kids during Ray's era had to stay in school for 3 years, and had to sit out a year if they transferred? You had no choice but to develop and once you wed yourself to a HS recruit, you were generally stuck with them and they with you. Also, in most cases, you won on a senior group of players that developed together into an NC team and after they won/departed, you'd often have to reset to build back up sacrificing NC opportunity for development years. None of this applies anymore.
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Also, Whaley never had the ceiling of the aforementioned Ray, Rip, Caron, Emeka. The development of Whaley is worth touting.
 
gtcam said:
Over the top BS
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Indeed, it's not really. He had no concept of where to be on the floor on offense or defense. Obviously he could play pick-up ball style offense and one-on-one defense. He had talent, athleticism, and a great motor, but the structured game of basketball was not something he knew how to do, at least as it manifested on the court. He regularly was out of position, particularly on offense, and consistently broke up sets.

If you were focusing your viewing attention on him during his Ollie and first Hurley years—and I was because people here wanted him to get more minutes—you could see it. Many didn't see it because it's not particularly normal to set your attention on one role player.
 
giddyup said:
Christian Vitale another example.
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100%. And Polley. And Tyrese Martin. And Hawkins. And Sanogo. And soon we're going to add Solo Ball and others.

The thing about Whaley is that the difference with him is incredibly stark. He went from a high motor guy who didn't know where to be on the floor to do a defensive player of the year who got drafted.
 
tzznandrew said:
100%. And Polley. And Tyrese Martin. And Hawkins. And Sanogo. And soon we're going to add Solo Ball and others.

The thing about Whaley is that the difference with him is incredibly stark. He went from a high motor guy who didn't know where to be on the floor to do a defensive player of the year who got drafted.
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Whaley didn't get drafted.
 
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