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HurricaneDave said:
He was on the "participation squad" all season at WR and was supposedly fully recovered. He doesn't have the body type for WR, it's more suited for RB. He looked good catching passes in 2018 out of the backfield but didn't have natural RB instincts on run plays. By the end of the season it was a give a way when he came in that other teams should expect a screen or pass to him in the flat.

I'm interested to see what Gillespie brings to the table. Edsall had him playing game 1 as a true freshman against UCF. Then torn ACL mid season. Sat out last season to focus on academics. Brings more speed than Mensah and could be a good change of pace back.
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Re-energized about the thought of having Gillespie do some things for us this upcoming season... PLUS he's a CT kid... Would be a great story when it's all said and done..
 
Exit 4 said:
Well - its a gracious exit post

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The Queen song is ringing in my head (can't stop it!) ("Another one bites the dust.. and another does, another does, another bites the dust!)... Wish him nothing but the best...
 
Not wanting to read to read too much into it but SK retweeted with a comment. This is going downhill real fast.

EDIT: Just saw he's retweeted all transfers with comments so maybe just wishing them well....

 
AndOne said:
C'mon, Edsell pushed out the best player on defense? That makes no sense. Coyle appears to be the only one hustling most of the time. Meanwhile, the other DBs are jogging and trying to avoid making real tackles.
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Yup.
Nothing Edsall does makes sense to anyone but himself. Believe me, when I had heard this, I was surprised myself.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Yes. That must be it. A guy who sent multiple two stars and walk ons to the NFL must be wrong when he doesn't play someone.

Do I want all these players gone? Of course not. But the assuming that if a player leaves for lack of playing time Edsall must be wrong about him -- well, see my other threaD.
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I get where you’re coming from but most of these kids were 8-12 years old the last time Edsall produced an NFL prospect. Who was the last one Stefon Diggs?? I don’t know what any of the kids will turn out to be but it’s pretty clear they don’t want to play for Edsall.
 
Nobody wants kids to leave the program and we all appreciate their commitment and effort. At most colleges, 4th year players are not invited back for a 5th year unless you are projected to be a starter or a key backup. Some schools push kids out before they get to the 4th year if they are not projected to be key contributors on the field.

Edsall probably doesn't want all of the kids to leave that are in the portal, but for most, it was time to seek another opportunity. Unfortunately, that is the tough reality of college football. The players that are leaving that were starters may want to try to see if they can play up for their last year. You have to respect that after the losing the past 4 years.

If you look at the 4th year players that are currently in the portal or have announced their departure, here are their stats for 2019:

Beaudry: played 5 games, 53/83 503 yards, 1 TD, 2 int. 2nd on team for pass yards, 3rd for TD passes.
Donaldson: played 10 games, 2 receptions, 30 yards, no TDs. 25 kickoffs. 7th in receptions by WRs.
Brouse: played 0 games
Leone: played 11 games, OL starter
Hahn: played 12 games, 3 tackles. 8th in tackles for LBs,
Gilmartin: played 6 games, 29 tackles, 1 sack, 5th in tackles for LBs.
Garson: played 1 game, no stats
Herring-Wilson: played 8 games, 17 tackles, 1 pass break up. 7th in tackles for DBs.
Coyle: played 11 games, 86 tackles, 1 int., 10 pass breakups. 1st in tackles and pass break ups on team.
Graham: played 11 games, kick holder, no punts.
D. Williams: played 4 games, 5 catches 62 yards. 3rd in receptions for TEs.

Here are the undergrads that appear to be leaving:

Black: played 6 games, 13 carries, 61 yards, 0 TDs, 1 catch, 6 yards. 3rd in rushing yards on team.
Scott: played 4 games, no stats
Carroll: played 0 games. Academic redshirt.
Hubbard: played 3 games, OL backup.
Holmes: played 12 games, OL backup


Out of all the players leaving, 2 were starters. (I did not include DeGeorge as he is not yet in the portal.)
 
kemba said:
One thing you could count on basically his entire tenure first time around was a good to dominant running game. There are plenty of places to question him but evaluating running back talent is not one of them
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The first time around is irrelevant. It’s ten freaking years ago. Which RB talent has 2.0 brought in? Mensah and.....who?

Do people really think Mensah will play in the NFL? Undersized, north-south runner (has shown no ability to outrun defenders to the edge). Terrible pass blocker. Below average receiver. Zero shiftiness.
 
kris1 said:
The first time around is irrelevant. It’s ten freaking years ago. Which RB talent has 2.0 brought in? Mensah and.....who?

Do people really think Mensah will play in the NFL? Undersized, north-south runner (has shown no ability to outrun defenders to the edge). Terrible pass blocker. Below average receiver. Zero shiftiness.
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kris1 - what position did u play in college?
 
Bonehead said:
One RB injury away from making the fan base happy and throwing 60 times a game.
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We need 3 RBs for this recruiting class (1 HS/Prep, 1 JUCO, 1 Grad Transfer)... 2 isn't enough...
 
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Bonehead said:
One RB injury away from making the fan base happy and throwing 60 times a game.
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That’s a heck of a forcing function.

What happens when we run out of QBs because the glass Canadian got injured again?
 
ktuck911 said:
kris1 - what position did u play in college?
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I played baseball and basketball in college. I coached football for 20+ years. I also train athletes. Does it matter if I played college football? There are plenty of GREAT coaches who never played the game. Don’t be a dick...if you are trying to be a dick. ;)
 
kris1 said:
The first time around is irrelevant. It’s ten freaking years ago. Which RB talent has 2.0 brought in? Mensah and.....who?

Do people really think Mensah will play in the NFL? Undersized, north-south runner (has shown no ability to outrun defenders to the edge). Terrible pass blocker. Below average receiver. Zero shiftiness.
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That's a bit overly critical and especially of a college kid.

He improved as a pass blocker and that over the shoulder catch out of the backfield against ECU showed me he has good hands and the ability to adjust to a throw. No he doesn't have breakaway speed and isn't shifty, but he still got 1000 yards 2 years in a row. He might not be an NFL back, but he is a good not great college back.
 
hardcorehusky said:
That's a bit overly critical and especially of a college kid.

He improved as a pass blocker and that over the shoulder catch out of the backfield against ECU showed me he has good hands and the ability to adjust to a throw. No he doesn't have breakaway speed and isn't shifty, but he still got 1000 yards 2 years in a row. He might not be an NFL back, but he is a good not great college back.
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I never said he wasn’t a “good” college back. The OP said you can’t question Edsall on evaluating RB talent. I’m questioning where that RB talent is under 2.0. Mensah is good, not great. If you believe he’s improved as a pass blocker....ok. But, to say he has good hands as a receiver is questionable. He had 8 receptions in 2019, down from 10 receptions in 2018. He’s also a stat compiler. The majority of his carriers and yards were accrued when the scoring margin was 15+ points. In fact, approximately 20+% of his total rushing yardage in each of the last two seasons came when UConn trailed by 22+ points.

2018 - 225 carries, 1045 yds
132 carries, 512 yds, 0TDs when the final margin is 15+ points (win or lose)
54 carries, 232 yds, 0TDs in 22+ point loss

2019 - 226 carries, 1013 yds
144 carries, 674 yds, 7TDs when the final margin is 15+ points (win or lose)
55 carries, 238 yds, 0TDs in 22+ point loss
 
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kris1 said:
I never said he wasn’t a “good” college back. The OP said you can’t question Edsall on evaluating RB talent. I’m questioning where that RB talent is under 2.0. Mensah is good, not great. If you believe he’s improved as a pass blocker....ok. But, to say he has good hands as a receiver is questionable. He had 8 receptions in 2019, down from 10 receptions in 2018. He’s also a stat compiler. The majority of his carriers and yards were accrued when the scoring margin was 15+ points. In fact, approximately 20+% of his total rushing yardage in each of the last two seasons came when UConn trailed by 22+ points.

2018 - 225 carries, 1045 yds
132 carries, 512 yds, 0TDs when the final margin is 15+ points (win or lose)
54 carries, 232 yds, 0TDs in 22+ point loss

2019 - 226 carries, 1013 yds
144 carries, 674 yds, 7TDs when the final margin is 15+ points (win or lose)
55 carries, 238 yds, 0TDs in 22+ point loss
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It's a team game - he doesn't play defense so most of his carries would be when we are behind. Heck, the UMass game he had 5 TD 's and put us ahead with great running. Outside of URI and Wagner, that was his only opportunity to run the ball with a lead. Regarding catches out of the backfield- I don't think this offense designed many screens or balls out of the backfield for him. It is up to the QB to check down to him and that wasn't JZ's strength this year. You can throw all the stats you want, but put them with context. As a junior, he isn't bad. And guess what, he can improve- he can work on his vision to hit the right hole. He can improve in the other areas too. Now if we have an offensive line that could open some holes......
 
UConnJim said:
Nobody wants kids to leave the program and we all appreciate their commitment and effort. At most colleges, 4th year players are not invited back for a 5th year unless you are projected to be a starter or a key backup. Some schools push kids out before they get to the 4th year if they are not projected to be key contributors on the field.

Edsall probably doesn't want all of the kids to leave that are in the portal, but for most, it was time to seek another opportunity. Unfortunately, that is the tough reality of college football. The players that are leaving that were starters may want to try to see if they can play up for their last year. You have to respect that after the losing the past 4 years.

If you look at the 4th year players that are currently in the portal or have announced their departure, here are their stats for 2019:

Beaudry: played 5 games, 53/83 503 yards, 1 TD, 2 int. 2nd on team for pass yards, 3rd for TD passes.
Donaldson: played 10 games, 2 receptions, 30 yards, no TDs. 25 kickoffs. 7th in receptions by WRs.
Brouse: played 0 games
Leone: played 11 games, OL starter
Hahn: played 12 games, 3 tackles. 8th in tackles for LBs,
Gilmartin: played 6 games, 29 tackles, 1 sack, 5th in tackles for LBs.
Garson: played 1 game, no stats
Herring-Wilson: played 8 games, 17 tackles, 1 pass break up. 7th in tackles for DBs.
Coyle: played 11 games, 86 tackles, 1 int., 10 pass breakups. 1st in tackles and pass break ups on team.
Graham: played 11 games, kick holder, no punts.
D. Williams: played 4 games, 5 catches 62 yards. 3rd in receptions for TEs.

Here are the undergrads that appear to be leaving:

Black: played 6 games, 13 carries, 61 yards, 0 TDs, 1 catch, 6 yards. 3rd in rushing yards on team.
Scott: played 4 games, no stats
Carroll: played 0 games. Academic redshirt.
Hubbard: played 3 games, OL backup.
Holmes: played 12 games, OL backup


Out of all the players leaving, 2 were starters. (I did not include DeGeorge as he is not yet in the portal.)
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Didn’t Hubbard start the last 3 games?
 
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uconnfan68 said:
Didn’t Hubbard start the last 3 games?
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Last 2. I'm assuming because Leone told Edsall he planned on leaving after the season so he was honored at senior day. They gave Hubbard that start and at Temple. Again, assuming to get Hubbard experience going into next season. Then he decided to also transfer.
 
kris1 said:
I never said he wasn’t a “good” college back. The OP said you can’t question Edsall on evaluating RB talent. I’m questioning where that RB talent is under 2.0. Mensah is good, not great. If you believe he’s improved as a pass blocker....ok. But, to say he has good hands as a receiver is questionable. He had 8 receptions in 2019, down from 10 receptions in 2018. He’s also a stat compiler. The majority of his carriers and yards were accrued when the scoring margin was 15+ points. In fact, approximately 20+% of his total rushing yardage in each of the last two seasons came when UConn trailed by 22+ points.

2018 - 225 carries, 1045 yds
132 carries, 512 yds, 0TDs when the final margin is 15+ points (win or lose)
54 carries, 232 yds, 0TDs in 22+ point loss

2019 - 226 carries, 1013 yds
144 carries, 674 yds, 7TDs when the final margin is 15+ points (win or lose)
55 carries, 238 yds, 0TDs in 22+ point loss
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Ranked 47th in the country on the 107th ranked offense. Not a Heisman candidate by any stretch. But also not a fail.
 
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huskymedic said:
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Since it'll be his 5th year, according to that Tweet, he'll still need to sit out though because he hasn't graduated, right?

I'll be interested to see if any FBS school takes any kid for a year and have them sit out a year
 
UCFBfan said:
Since it'll be his 5th year, according to that Tweet, he'll still need to sit out though because he hasn't graduated, right?

I'll be interested to see if any FBS school takes any kid for a year and have them sit out a year
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He can play next year, he just needs to finish his undergrad work in spring 2020 first.
 
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