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Jaydumo20 said:
I'm fine with this. Good loss. Let's keep moving. Excited about the future and all the fill in the blank platitudes
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Hard to argue with it. I'm glad Houston got to the 3 as it's deserving base on how they are playing and the eye test. Right now, like Vegas, I'd put us at around the 6th best to to win an NC. I'd be pretty happy with an Elite 8 based on expectations.
 
RuffRuff said:
Hard to argue with it. I'm glad Houston got to the 3 as it's deserving base on how they are playing and the eye test. Right now, like Vegas, I'd put us at around the 6th best to to win an NC. I'd be pretty happy with an Elite 8 based on expectations.
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I take solace in the fact that we probably won’t be seeing a coach on Pitino’s level (unless it’s Pitino himself) until the elite eight, and our talent and coaching will carry us past any combination of coaching/talent/experience in the first 3 rounds
 
Jaydumo20 said:
I'm fine with this. Good loss. Let's keep moving. Excited about the future and all the fill in the blank platitudes
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You should not be. It discredits our non conference and devalues the big east further. Good guys will end up a 2 or 3 seed. Any p4 with our out of conference would be a 1.
 
My only beef is being ranked below Iowa St. Following their consecutive losses to Kansas by 21 (who UConn beat) and Cincinnati (.500 team at 57 in Kenpom), Iowa St has won 5 straight against teams with a combined 18-33 in conference record. No rational reason for Iowa St to jump other 2 loss teams. The Iowa St conference schedule is brutal with upcoming games against Kansas, Houston, BYU, Texas Tech and Arizona.
 
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EBonz30 said:
Think we are looking @ #6- if we are lucky #5.

If Michigan wins today- see below for what I believe will be the outcome;

1- Arizona
2- Michigan
3- Houston
4- Iowa St.
5- Duke
6- Connecticut
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Almost hit the top 6!! Duke & Iowa St. swap…..
 
UConnRock said:
My only beef is being ranked below Iowa St. Following their consecutive losses to Kansas by 21 (who UConn beat) and Cincinnati (.500 team at 57 in Kenpom), Iowa St has won 5 straight against teams with a combined 18-33 in conference record. No rational reason for Iowa St to jump other 2 loss teams. The Iowa St conference schedule is brutal with upcoming games against Kansas, Houston, BYU, Texas Tech and Arizona.
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This is why we don't worry about it. They'll lose two of those at least.
 
UConnRock said:
My only beef is being ranked below Iowa St. Following their consecutive losses to Kansas by 21 (who UConn beat) and Cincinnati (.500 team at 57 in Kenpom), Iowa St has won 5 straight against teams with a combined 18-33 in conference record. No rational reason for Iowa St to jump other 2 loss teams. The Iowa St conference schedule is brutal with upcoming games against Kansas, Houston, BYU, Texas Tech and Arizona.
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Def arguable, really a coin flip. We'll see how good they are in the next month. That Cinci loss does smell.
Rocktheworld said:
I take solace in the fact that we probably won’t be seeing a coach on Pitino’s level (unless it’s Pitino himself) until the elite eight, and our talent and coaching will carry us past any combination of coaching/talent/experience in the first 3 rounds
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We'll see - if we get a 2 seed, we'd be playing 3's in the S16 - would be some good coaches in that mix. I think we can definitely see very good coaches in the S16.
 
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CardiacAndre7 said:
Duke stays at 4 but we move down to 6. Interesting.
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I don't really care that much about the rankings at this point but that is just strange.

Duke loses at UNC (#11 in the AP Poll and #27 on kenpom) and stays at 4.

UConn loses at SJU (#17 in the AP Poll and #16 on kenpom) and drops back 3 spots.

Whatever.
 
Plenty to help UConn move the needle with the tight range for next poll:

Quad 1 Opportunity
On Wednesday, Quad 1Z win available at a Butler team that’s 3-10 against Quads 1 & 2 this year.

Potential Q1 Win Upgrades
Villanova (32) is knocking on the door of upgrading that home W to a Quad 1 and Creighton (78) away W as well.
 
Not surprised Iowa St and Houston slotted above us

Surprised Duke didn’t move at all. From 1314 votes to 1254 but they stay at #4. Although losing another 60 points now would drop them to 7, which is where I thought they’d be today

Kansas and Illinois top 10, Florida top 15 is really good for us. BYU dropped a lot but still ranked

St John’s is knocking on the top 15 door. Up to 17

Villanova 5th team out
 
AllHusky said:
Who are considered bad(or less than good) coaches in the top 16?
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Scheyer and Hubert although Duke won’t be a 4 seed anyways. I can’t tell you who Virginia’s coach is either.
 
JungleLobo said:
Plenty to help UConn move the needle with the tight range for next poll:

Quad 1 Opportunity
On Wednesday, Quad 1Z win available at a Butler team that’s 3-10 against Quads 1 & 2 this year.

Potential Q1 Win Upgrades
Villanova (32) is knocking on the door of upgrading that home W to a Quad 1 and Creighton (78) away W as well.
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Providence is at 77.
 
HooperScooper said:
I don't really care that much about the rankings at this point but that is just strange.

Duke loses at UNC (#11 in the AP Poll and #27 on kenpom) and stays at 4.

UConn loses at SJU (#17 in the AP Poll and #16 on kenpom) and drops back 3 spots.

Whatever.
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Left one major point out in the conversation between Duke & UConn- Duke #3 in KenPom- UConn #8 in KenPom.

As you stated above- doesn’t really matter to me as well lol. Think being #1 is good for program branding- but #5 or #6- na.
 
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Huskyforlife said:
Houston moving up 5 spots is gross. Does anyone really think they’re better than the teams they passed?
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If polygamy were legal the voters would marry Duke and Houston and live happily ever after
 
UConNick said:
Nailed it. Of course Duke doesn’t even drop one spot.
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Yes, it's exactly what I said.

UNC and St. John's are about equally as tough.

St. John's s__t the bed out of conference so a loss to them looks worse.
 
Digging into the vote totals in more detail, it's not dissimilar from the Coaches' Poll.

It's
1) Arizona
2) Michigan
3-6) Jumble of legit 2-loss teams within 48 points of each other (with 59 voters, that's nearly within "error bars")
7-8) Nebraska and Illinois

I think we're pretty well above #7, but we're also the lowest of the #3-6 group right now, which has us in danger of being screwed with Houston in Houston. I don't expect Duke to be seriously threatened the rest of the way, but the Big XII has a lot to be sorted out.

If we win out we'll get a #1 seed. Otherwise probably not, given the conference and the impression of voters that's already been made evident.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Digging into the vote totals in more detail, it's not dissimilar from the Coaches' Poll.

It's
1) Arizona
2) Michigan
3-6) Jumble of legit 2-loss teams within 48 points of each other (with 59 voters, that's nearly within "error bars")
7-8) Nebraska and Illinois

I think we're pretty well above #7, but we're also the lowest of the #3-6 group right now, which has us in danger of being screwed with Houston in Houston. I don't expect Duke to be seriously threatened the rest of the way, but the Big XII has a lot to be sorted out.

If we win out we'll get a #1 seed. Otherwise probably not, given the conference and the impression of voters that's already been made evident.
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Winning out certainly does not assure a 1. Remember last week when we won 2 and still dropped? It’s fairly clear the national voters and metrics don’t favor the big east and UConn. A lot has to happen for UConn to get a 1. Another loss or two will more likely drop us to a 3. To me, the most likely scenario remains a 2 seed in east.
 
djct1999 said:
Winning out certainly does not assure a 1. Remember last week when we won 2 and still dropped? It’s fairly clear the national voters and metrics don’t favor the big east and UConn. A lot has to happen for UConn to get a 1. Another loss or two will more likely drop us to a 3. To me, the most likely scenario remains a 2 seed in east.
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Well luckily for UConn the committee uses actual facts and not your opinion. Because the reality is the metrics do favor UConn, and if the season ended today we would be a 1 seed. That's why people say if we win out we will be a 1 seed
 
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Can someone please set the record straight- is KenPom a “metric” used by the selection committee like WAB and NET?
 
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