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Sorry didn’t realize this conversation was already happening on the AP week 13 poll
 
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BFieldHusky said:
I think we drop to 5.
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I'm thinking 4 or 5. Leaning 4 but won't be shocked if it is 5. Anything lower seems absurd to me. People are making a big deal about UH beating BYU by double digits, but that was BYU's 4th straight loss. Iowa State had a sizeable advantage late in the game but ended up barely beating a Baylor team that really hasn't been that good this year.

I'm not predicting this happens, but I wouldn't be shocked if we stayed at 3 if I'm being honest. 3 is more likely than 6 in my eyes
 
Jaydumo20 said:
I think a worse ranking than we hope for will be better for our mental state and the teams performance in the long run. We both would rather have some roadblock to overcome and something to prove.
Defending #2 wasnt healthy for the yard
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True. I feel like there were a lot out there questioning how good we are after that month of malaise, then we had a couple games that reversed it a little. Getting outmuscled in prime time might affirm the doubters.
 
I think #7 or #8 would be about where belong. St John's is not a very good team, but upsets do happen. Also, the strength (or lack of strength) of the Big East Conference as a whole will result in UConn dropping down more in the rankings which is fair.
 
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Of 3, 4, 5, 6 all losing in the week we have:

3: UConn loses by 9 at #22 St. John's who will surely rise this week
4: Duke loses by 3 at #14 UNC
5: Illinois loses in OT by 3 at #10 Michigan St
6: Gonzaga loses by 7 at unranked Portland who is nowhere close to being ranked.

Ranking the losses by best to worst:
4, 5, 3, 6

Now due to 7 Iowa State and 8 Houston winning it could reshuffle to:

1. Arizona - 0 losses
2. Michigan - 1 loss
3. Duke - 2 losses
4. Iowa St - 2 losses
5. UConn - 2 losses
6. Houston - 2 losses
7. Illinois - 4 losses
8. Michigan St - 4 losses
9. Gonzaga -1 loss
10. Kansas - 5 losses
 
Lafayette said:
Of 3, 4, 5, 6 all losing in the week we have:

3: UConn loses by 9 at unranked St. John's who will surely rank this week
4: Duke loses by 3 at #14 UNC
5: Illinois loses in OT by 3 at #10 Michigan St
6: Gonzaga loses by 7 at unranked Portland who is nowhere close to being ranked.

Ranking the losses by best to worst:
5, 4, 3, 6

Now due to 7 Iowa State and 8 Houston winning it could reshuffle to:

1. Arizona
2. Michigan
3. Duke
4. Iowa St
5. UConn
6. Houston
7. Illinois
8. Michigan St
9. Gonzaga
10. Kansas
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St. John's is currently ranked at 22.

I also think AP voters are kind of simpletons how this stuff is handled and while the above thinking isn't wrong, most voters don't put that much time into it.

I could see them staying at 3 or dropping to 4. Worst case 5.
 
St. John's was corrected to #22 but I appreciate the head's up as 3 ships passed in the night.
 
1. Arizona - 0 losses
2. Michigan - 1 loss
3. Duke - 2 losses
4. UConn - 2 losses
5. Iowa St - 2 losses
6. Houston - 2 losses
 
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CTBballfan243 said:
I think #7 or #8 would be about where belong. St John's is not a very good team, but upsets do happen. Also, the strength (or lack of strength) of the Big East Conference as a whole will result in UConn dropping down more in the rankings which is fair.
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St John’s is not a very good team? Please define what a good team is in your mind.
 
ucp990411 said:
6 or 7
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I think the voters have been looking for any reason to drop us. It was hard to before because we were still winning, but now they can feel more justified in penalizing us for our "closer and more difficult than they should've been" wins against weaker BE teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see us at #7.
 
We aren’t playing that well over the last 10 games. I’m not sure why people have a problem admitting it. Tarris is not the player we needed him to be yet and Solo is too inconsistent. Any voter that’s been paying attention is completely justified in thinking we are over-ranked. We played our best ball early on. We need to get back to it.

It is also entirely possible that the Big East just knows how to play against us and the refs allow it. We’ve seen it before. If that’s the real issue, once again we’ll look a lot better in the NCAA’s. That’s ok with me, I wouldn't mind entering the tourney a little underrated.
 
Hoophound said:
We aren’t playing that well over the last 10 games. I’m not sure why people have a problem admitting it. Tarris is not the player we needed him to be yet and Solo is too inconsistent. Any voter that’s been paying attention is completely justified in thinking we are over-ranked. We played our best ball early on. We need to get back to it.

It is also entirely possible that the Big East just knows how to play against us and the refs allow it. We’ve seen it before. If that’s the real issue, once again we’ll look a lot better in the NCAA’s. That’s ok with me, I wouldn't mind entering the tourney a little underrated.
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Why do you keep repeating yourself? After saying you don’t care what people think
 
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KingAG said:
At this point in the season idc. We have bigger goals and fish to fry
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Ranking doesn’t mean much, you’re right. Getting this team ready to play teams that will have more physical talent will be. No one is going to convince me that UConn has more talent than most of the top 6-8 teams. We have a first round shooter, who isn't on ball and can't just take over. We have a second round role player who is similar. We saw what this squad looked like against a physical StJ squad. This isn't 2023 that could outrun teams, or 2024 that could bully down teams. This team is something very different. It's last year with Silas. Silas is a big upgrade, but he alone doesn't really change the make up of this team that much. Our bench is moderately effective. We are going to have to do what we did against Florida last year a few times, while hitting shots. I’m excited to see what Hurley can spin this tournament because they’re certainly not going to boat race anyone, or our talent anyone. This will have to be about out executing.
 
KingAG said:
Why do you keep repeating yourself? After saying you don’t care what people think
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When we win by 20+ it’s “well those teams aren’t very good”

When we win a close game it’s “well those teams aren’t very good”

When Iowa State beats Baylor by 3 or Michigan State loses to Minnesota it’s “well those are great conferences”
 
I thought we were gonna move down pretty significantly, before every team behind us also lost. I’ll say 4, because Dukes loss was better than ours, and their net ratings been ahead of us for awhile, so the voters could use this opportunity to shift us around.
 
Really hard to predict with 3-6 all losing this week and 8,9,10 beating ranked teams.

Maybe goes as follows:

1. Arizona
2. Michigan
3. Duke
4. Iowa St
5. Houston
6. Nebraska
7. UConn
8. Illinois
9. Michigan St
10 Kansas
11. Gonzaga

I think voters are going to drop UConn below all the top 2 loss teams sans Gonzaga that suffered a brutal loss. All the other two loss teams had at least one really good win, except for Iowa State. Even though Michigan State just beat Illinois on their own home court in OT, they lost in Minnesota earlier in the week. Up until that OT loss, Illinois was on a pretty good run. Most of their losses came earlier in the season , all to highly ranked teams. Iowa State in Houston two very scrappy and battle tested teams will likely move up to the three and four spot. I wouldn't be too surprised if they flip those two since Houston's two losses are better than Iowa State's, though their win this week over BYU is losing its value as the Cougars have looked quite flawed losing 4 in a row and 5 out of their last 6.

I'd be remiss to mention that the one team I'm not sure where they will slot, Duke. They always seem to get preferential treatment so I wouldn't be surprised if they moved up to number three even though they lost on a buzzer beater on the ranked Tar Heels' home court. I wouldn't be surprised if they drop them just above UConn to number six. That would be the only change I would make to my prediction above.

Maybe we drop to 6, just ahead of the two loss Nebraska team, but those are both recent losses by 3 at Michigan and by 11 at home against Illinois.

I feel that UConn is evenly grouped with the teams I listed above 3 through 10, the way they are currently playing. I like our chances on a neutral Court against any of those teams without Big East refs officiating the game. I like UConn ahead of those if they can play to their potential and fix a few things that are a out of sorts, such as poor free throw shooting, rebounding issues, missing too many makeable shots, turnover prone against high pressure teams, and stretches where they struggle to stop penetration that results in either easy baskets or excessive fouling. I believe they have the talent to fix most if not all of those areas.

I'm very interested to find out how the voters slot the top 10 to 12 teams this coming Monday. As some have pointed out, I think UConn's struggles during January against unranked Big East teams has given some voters a reason to drop UConn once they finally lose their second game, Albeit against a pretty tough ranked and physical St John's team on their home court at Madison Square Garden that was filled this time with many more Johnny's fans than UConn's.
 
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DogMania said:
Really hard to predict with 3-6 all losing this week and 8,9,10 beating ranked teams.

Maybe goes as follows:

1. Arizona
2. Michigan
3. Duke
4. Iowa St
5. Houston
6. Nebraska
7. UConn
8. Illinois
9. Michigan St
10 Kansas
11. Gonzaga

I think voters are going to drop UConn below all the top 2 loss teams sans Gonzaga that suffered a brutal loss. All the other two loss teams had at least one really good win, except for Iowa State. Even though Michigan State just beat Illinois on their own home court in OT, they lost in Minnesota earlier in the week. Up until that OT loss, Illinois was on a pretty good run. Most of their losses came earlier in the season , all to highly ranked teams. Iowa State in Houston two very scrappy and battle tested teams will likely move up to the three and four spot. I wouldn't be too surprised if they flip those two since Houston's two losses are better than Iowa State's, though their win this week over BYU is losing its value as the Cougars have looked quite flawed losing 4 in a row and 5 out of their last 6.

I'd be remiss to mention that the one team I'm not sure where they will slot, Duke. They always seem to get preferential treatment so I wouldn't be surprised if moved up to number three even though they lost on a buzzer beater on the ranked Tar Heels home court. I wouldn't be surprised if they drop them just above UConn to number six. That would be the only change I would make to my prediction above.

Maybe we drop 6, just ahead of the two loss Nebraska team, but those are both recent losses by three at Michigan and by 1 at home against Illinois.

I feel that UConn is evenly grouped the teams I listed above 3 through 10 the way they are currently playing. I like our chances on a neutral Court against any of those teams without Big East refs officiating the game. I like UConn ahead of those if they can play to their potential and fix a few things that are a out of sorts, such as for free throw shooting, rebounding issues, missing too many makeable shots, turnover prone against high pressure teams, and stretches where they struggle to stop penetration that results in either easy baskets or excessive fouling. I believe they have the talent to fix most if not all of those areas.

I'm very interested to find out how the voters slot the top 10 to 12 teams this coming Monday. As some have pointed out , I think UConn's struggles during January against unranked Big East teams has given some voters a reason to drop UConn once they finally lose their second game, I'll be it against a pretty tough ranked and physical St John's team on their home court at Madison Square Garden that was filled this time with many more Johnny's fans than UConn's.
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You've got Duke moving up, lolz.
 
We’re 7th in NET and 8th in Kenpom. I think voters will use this as an opportunity to knock us back. My expectation is we end up somewhere between 5 and 9. I’m expecting at least one maroon to put us at like 15.
 
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