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Thoughts about this recruiting class!

If UConn goes 7-5 next year they were playing in the CCC not the AAC.

They could lose the first two by 100.
 
More than likely we will not know for a year or two about this class, but it has the makings of a very solid class with a couple of misses.

I know one thing. The speed has improved with this class for sure. Let's see if they can play some ball now.
 
Anyone mention our new O-line coach has a black belt in karate?
 
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Block C said:
I think this is the best recruiting class that UConn has put together. Athletic and physical talent is hard to find. I believe Randy did a great job taking advantage of early signing period also.
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I gave you a like simply because we need more fans with your optimism.
 
This team could be considerably worse off defensively.

As far as the recruiting class, where was it ranked in the conference? There were 3 defensive players we were involved with that really intrigued. Lorenz Metz, Landon Woodson, and Jalen Rayam. We went 0 for 3, with two signing with conference foes.

I'm also concerned with the manner in which Lashlee left and the whole Corey Edsall thing. To go to the mattresses against the state for newbie assistant, let the kid go coach elsewhere for a few years. Yes, it's stupid and petty on the state's end as well but they didn't target Edsall with this, it was always in place.

The clock is ticking. Personally I look at this year as the last where we could afford to keep spinning our wheels. 2019 They gotta start getting it done on the field.
 
whaler11 said:
Aw do the words give you the sadz.

I’ll try to just post nonsense cuz I want it to be true.

I think UConn will win the Super Bowl next year!!
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I agree with your assessment. I'm just giving you a hard time about endlessly beating the drum. Carry on..............
 
Which is @whaler11?
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noeynox said:
This team could be considerably worse off defensively.

As far as the recruiting class, where was it ranked in the conference? There were 3 defensive players we were involved with that really intrigued. Lorenz Metz, Landon Woodson, and Jalen Rayam. We went 0 for 3, with two signing with conference foes.

I'm also concerned with the manner in which Lashlee left and the whole Corey Edsall thing. To go to the mattresses against the state for newbie assistant, let the kid go coach elsewhere for a few years. Yes, it's stupid and petty on the state's end as well but they didn't target Edsall with this, it was always in place.

The clock is ticking. Personally I look at this year as the last where we could afford to keep spinning our wheels. 2019 They gotta start getting it done on the field.
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They were last in FBS football pass defense by almost 50 yards a game. How could they be "considerably worse?" The gave up 186 YPG on the ground (86th). That ranked them as the 126th defense of 129 teams. They gave up 519 yards a game. To be "considerably" worse, you have to extend the length of the games.

If Edsall is any good, he will have evaluated the defense and made adjustments in the off season. (I would prefer he scrap the 3-3-5 but that is doubtful). Plus, just being familiar with the defense should improve their play.

At the least, I expect the pass defense to be better.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
Those are all valid concerns from a half empty point of view, but maybe HCRE knows he might have to take a proactive role in all those coaching areas for the time being. Edsall has always been a control freak anyway but IMO, in a good way. The one area Dunn is experienced is in working with Edsall, which is going to be important. So yes, there are some question marks, but at least our head coach is not named Diaco anymore.
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Great points. I'm worried, not panicked. The major knock we all had on RE 1.0 was the stilted offense, and run, run, pass one dimensional play calling. With him effectively taking the helm and installing a puppet, the offense will be RE's design. In the AAC, I think the notion we can grind out teams and keep them off the field in low scoring affairs is a nice theory but doesn't work well in practice. I'm pretty certain RE puts a better product in the field year over year. He's the man for the job. But, the environment has changed from the old Big East style of play. He struggled at Maryland I think for roughly the same reasons. Ironically, I think he would have done well at Maryland in the B1G with some time since it's much closer to his preferred style of football.
 
Palatine said:
They were last in FBS football pass defense by almost 50 yards a game. How could they be "considerably worse?"

If Edsall is any good, he will have evaluated the defense and made adjustments in the off season. (I would prefer he scrap the 3-3-5 but that is doubtful). Plus, just being familiar with the defense should improve their play.

I expect the pass defense to be better.
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Because they are losing 8 starters and the backups on the defensive line ( other than Murphy) were nonexistent last year. Does anybody believe that our run defense will improve from last year? I hope I am wrong but there is a good chance our defense could actually be worse next year. Hopefully, there will be a substantial improvement in the secondary but more likely it will be an incremental improvement. Its going to take a few years to right this ship. In the meantime, I'm thinking we will me watching some very high scoring games next year including some very ugly losses.
 
Palatine said:
They were last in FBS football pass defense by almost 50 yards a game. How could they be "considerably worse?" The gave up 186 YPG on the ground (86th). That ranked them as the 126th defense of 129 teams. They gave up 519 yards a game. To be "considerably" worse, you have to extend the length of the games.

If Edsall is any good, he will have evaluated the defense and made adjustments in the off season. (I would prefer he scrap the 3-3-5 but that is doubtful). Plus, just being familiar with the defense should improve their play.

At the least, I expect the pass defense to be better.
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Statistically speaking it's so far out of the norm, it's a safe bet they are "better" if for no other reason than the one stated. How Crocker is here is truly a head scratcher, and on the other side equally confounding.
 
Tdaley said:
Because they are losing 8 starters and the backups on the defensive line ( other than Murphy) were nonexistent last year. Does anybody believe that our run defense will improve from last year? I hope I am wrong but there is a good chance our defense could actually be worse next year. Hopefully, there will be a substantial improvement in the secondary but more likely it will be an incremental improvement. Its going to take a few years to right this ship. In the meantime, I'm thinking we will me watching some very high scoring games next year including some very ugly losses.
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If you are losing 8 starters on the worst D in the nation, are you really losing anything?
 
gioff23 said:
If you are losing 8 starters on the worst D in the nation, are you really losing anything?
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Excellent point. Here are the young dudes. (Cincinnati Two Deep). I like our returning LBs and there are big numbers (beyond this two deep) at DB. Foley and Luke were very good college players. That is where we need to step up. But in our defense scheme, DL is the least critical position group.

DEFENSIVE LINE
57
Cole Ormsby, RSr., 6-3, 264
10
Cam Stapleton, RSr., 6-4, 230 OR
58
Phillippe Okounam, RSo., 6-5, 290
DEFENSIVE LINE
93
Folorunso Fatukasi, RSr., 6-4, 303
94
Kevin Murphy, RSo., 6-1, 280
DEFENSIVE LINE
15
Luke Carrezola, Sr., 6-3, 260
50
Sheridan Lawley, RJr., 6-4, 275
LINEBACKER
13
Vontae Diggs, Sr., 6-2, 221
43
Darrian Beavers, Fr., 6-3, 216
LINEBACKER
45
Ryan Gilmartin, RFr., 5-11, 235
11
Junior Joseph, RSr., 6-1, 232
LINEBACKER
47
Santana Sterling, Jr., 6-0, 223
33
Chris Britton, RJr., 6-1, 225
DEFENSIVE BACK
27
Omar Fortt, Fr., 6-1, 190
6
Eddie Hahn, RFr., 6-3, 205
DEFENSIVE BACK
21
Jamar Summers, Sr., 6-0, 190
14
Tahj Herring-Wilson, RFr., 6-1, 190
DEFENSIVE BACK
25
Tyler Coyle, RFr., 6-1, 202
36
Brayden Brown, Fr., 6-1, 192
DEFENSIVE BACK
41
Marshe Terry, RSo., 6-4, 212
32
Aaron Garland, RSo., 5-11, 193
DEFENSIVE BACK
1
Tre Bell, RSr., 5-11, 175
30
Jordan Swann, Fr., 5-10, 180
 
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Palatine said:
They were last in FBS football pass defense by almost 50 yards a game. How could they be "considerably worse?" The gave up 186 YPG on the ground (86th). That ranked them as the 126th defense of 129 teams. They gave up 519 yards a game. To be "considerably" worse, you have to extend the length of the games.

If Edsall is any good, he will have evaluated the defense and made adjustments in the off season. (I would prefer he scrap the 3-3-5 but that is doubtful). Plus, just being familiar with the defense should improve their play.

At the least, I expect the pass defense to be better.
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Familiarity may help.

I see no one on the roster that can come close to matching the productivity of Foley, Ormsby, Luke Zola, Junior Joseph and dare I say it Jamar Summers.

I'm aware guys can improve, but if you ask me how they could be worse, that's my answer.
 
gioff23 said:
If you are losing 8 starters on the worst D in the nation, are you really losing anything?
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Problem to me is that don't believe coaches gave players best chance to win with actual schemes used each down. In FBS championship game both teams were shown to use 3-4-4 but when seeing them line up play by play almost never saw less then 4 or 5 guys at line of scrimmage and 7 or 8 in the box. UConn actually lined up often with 3 on line of scrimmage, 3 linebackers spread off line scrimmage and 5 guys back. In the UConn defense scheme it allowed not deception as to where defense might be attacking and allowed offensive opponent to pick weaknesses apart. Having 5 guys back was pretty useless as they played so far off WR and/or there was so little pass rush (it was actually funny/sad often watching UConn's slow DL trying to catch the opponent QB) the opposing QB might as well have been wearing a red "not tackle allowed" shirt.
Defensive coaching was far worse than the talent, unless this changes (and why would it if coaches think it's all on the players), defense will only look statistically better if UConn's offense spends more time on field due to ball control.
 
noeynox said:
Familiarity may help.

I see no one on the roster that can come close to matching the productivity of Foley, Ormsby, Luke Zola, Junior Joseph and dare I say it Jamar Summers.

I'm aware guys can improve, but if you ask me how they could be worse, that's my answer.
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I agree with Foley and Luke. Ormsby disappeared for long stretches. I think Jones comes in and replaces Foley day one. If there is one decent pass rusher in the incoming group. It's a net plus.

Joseph, good player, could tackle and hit but his lack of speed was a problem. The young LBs are more athletic than the group they are replacing. Summers never came close to duplicating his sophomore season. I think he is easily replaced. Edsall played a lot of guys and with injuries the defensive backfield, he got a pretty good look at our secondary.

IMHO, then is no reason this defense can't improve from a personnel perspective.
 
It all comes down to DL to me. Need to find a rotation of players and I just don’t see any right now outside of Murphy.

We can absolutely improve in the secondary and linebacker positions even though we have lost some players there.

HCRE indicated he was in touch with a few grad transfers. My hope is they are all d linemen.
 
Palatine said:
I agree with Foley and Luke. Ormsby disappeared for long stretches. I think Jones comes in and replaces Foley day one. If there is one decent pass rusher in the incoming group. It's a net plus.

Joseph, good player, could tackle and hit but his lack of speed was a problem. The young LBs are more athletic than the group they are replacing. Summers never came close to duplicating his sophomore season. I think he is easily replaced. Edsall played a lot of guys and with injuries the defensive backfield, he got a pretty good look at our secondary.

IMHO, then is no reason this defense can't improve from a personnel perspective.
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I thought Ormsby was the more consistent of the two DEs by a pretty good margin. Luke really struggled this past year in the 3 3 5. Would get washed down an awful lot and not keep contain at all. We will see. I dont expect these incoming players to physically strong enough to replace those guys and be an improvement..
 
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noeynox said:
I thought Ormsby was the more consistent of the two DEs by a pretty good margin. Luke really struggled this past year in the 3 3 5. Would get washed down an awful lot and not keep contain at all. We will see. I dont expect these incoming players to physically strong enough to replace those guys and be an improvement..
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Agreed. I think Ormsby had a solid season. He just struggled to break down in open space when he had qb in sight. Luke lacked explosion. Never stopped working though.

We need to find a pass rusher. Badly.
 
huskysupporter said:
Agreed. I think Ormsby had a solid season. He just struggled to break down in open space when he had qb in sight. Luke lacked explosion. Never stopped working though.

We need to find a pass rusher. Badly.
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Agreed... Need a transfer to help us right away at that spot on the DL.... an edge rusher with a little more speed than we've had in the past several coaching stints...
 
gioff23 said:
If you are losing 8 starters on the worst D in the nation, are you really losing anything?
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The 3 defensive lineman are a big loss for next year mainly because a lack of replacements on our current roster. The same hold true with our linebackers although I don't feel as much concern as I do for the defensive line. Over time Edsall may replace them with better players. My concern is that our defense will worst next year than this year even though that may be hard for the fans to fathom based on what they saw on the field in 2017. Diaco's recruiting on the defensive side of the ball was horrible. That is why our defense is in such a mess. I liked the two defensive linemen in the current recruiting class. However, will either one of them be able to contribute in 2018? My guess is that Edsall will be forced to burn both of their red shirts even if they are not ready to make major contributions to our defense. On the bright side, our offense may be better next year. We may be watching a lot of 70 to 40 games next season.
 
BlueDogs said:
Great points. I'm worried, not panicked. The major knock we all had on RE 1.0 was the stilted offense, and run, run, pass one dimensional play calling. With him effectively taking the helm and installing a puppet, the offense will be RE's design. In the AAC, I think the notion we can grind out teams and keep them off the field in low scoring affairs is a nice theory but doesn't work well in practice. I'm pretty certain RE puts a better product in the field year over year. He's the man for the job. But, the environment has changed from the old Big East style of play. He struggled at Maryland I think for roughly the same reasons. Ironically, I think he would have done well at Maryland in the B1G with some time since it's much closer to his preferred style of football.
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Interesting theory in that he might have done better with Maryland in the B1G.
 
whaler11 said:
Aw do the words give you the sadz.

I’ll try to just post nonsense cuz I want it to be true.

I think UConn will win the Super Bowl next year!!
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So we’re skipping P5 and going to the NFL? AFC or NFC.
 
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