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With a week layoff and due to recent disagreements concerning AG’s (Aubrey) play, in particular against Ark, I decided to review the game, mostly keeping my eye on 4 players: AG, CW, EW and Dungee. For convenience, I’ve broken this analysis down by summary and then the details.

For those of you who think AG got abused by Dungee, you are flat wrong! No way to cherry-coat it, you are full of complete bulls***!

These are the facts: AG gave up 7 points to Dungee the entire time she was in the game. Most all of AG’s offensive and rebounding stats came in the first half when she played 16 of 20 minutes.

Dungee scored 30 points off of Uconn players not named AG. CW (Christyn) and EW (Evina) were consistently abused by Dungee, but to my knowledge nobody has ever mentioned this. Instead, somehow it was AG’s fault Dungee went for 37. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your silly opinion. If we play Ark, again, I would think GA would come up with slightly different plan to guard Dungee.

Frist half summary:

AG plays all but 4 minutes. Uconn up 2. 43-41. Uconn on pace to score 86 pts which is ample to win games and most of the time AG is in the game. But yet I constantly hear that AG slows down the offense!!!

Poor defense by most Uconn players EXCEPT AG causing Ark to score 41. AG only gave up 3 points in the first half to Dungee. Numerous TOs by UCONN players not named AG thereby wasting several possessions!

AG scores 6 pts on 2-4 shooting, including a 3. 5 rebounds, including 2 offensive (only one in the box but definitely had 2), 2 steals. She also created two additional possessions for Uconn which don’t get counted in the box but are as good as steals: tie-up to gain an extra possession and caused a TO with aggressive defense to gain another additional possession.

Defense: Dungee 1-2 against AG, scored ONLY 3 points. Twice AG stopped Dungee cold. Dungee running by all other UCONN defenders like they don’t exist! Dungee scores 12 on the rest of the team for a total of 15 at the half.

AG played very well in the first half. She did her job!

Second Half summary:

AG plays only 3 minutes: goes 0-1, 1 rebound and gives up 4 pts. Then she sits the rest of the game.

First Half Details:

2 Rebounds, 2 steals – fumbled the second one out of bounds when going in for the layup, post up for 2,missed 2 outside jumpers 1 for 2 on FT, scoring 3 in the 1st Qtr, great defense throughout and gave up only 3pts to Dungee. Stopped her cold once and she shot 1-2. CW very good shooting. Problem with TOs from Liv and CW, losing 5 possession as a result. Score 22-18, UCONN on pace to score 88 – too many TOs.

Start of 2nd Qtr, EW on Dungee and she easily goes by her for 2 pts, then easily goes by CW for another two. Big difference when AG is on her as Dungee has to really work to score. CW with the TO but AG with the tie-up and saves the possession. With the extra possession that AG gave UCONN, we get a lay-up out of it. AG out at 8:10 to go in 2nd Qtr, Uconn up by 2 at 24-22. Later Dungee uses a pick and easily goes by CW again for 2 more pts.

Corner three and TOs killing UCONN. AG back in at 4:18. Sat for 4 minutes during which time AE (Aaliyah) took over. Uconn up by 3. AG immediately gets another rebound. Aggressive defense from AG causes a TO by Ark.

Uconn quickly goes up by 8 with AG back in the game but two straight poor defensive possessions, one by CW and the other by NM leads to 4 pts and then an offensive foul on AE. Then CW gives up 3 to Dungee. CW with the offensive foul and then gives up another easy two for Dungee. Got to wonder why GA has CW on Dungee. Dungee knows she can take her every time! Poor coaching.

AG with another offensive board to get UCONN another possession. Third offensive foul on Uconn in a span of 4 minutes. AG hits the three from the corner. Uconn leads at half 43-41



2nd Half Details:

Dungee immediately goes by EW like she wasn’t even there for a quick 2. Dungee puts 2-3 moves together to get a pretty scoop shot against AG. But, she had to really work for it. She didn’t just breeze by her like she does against CW and EW.

First time I saw poor defense by AG giving up the dribble penetration. Where is the help defense in the middle of the lane? Where is Liv? CW bricks two open shots in the flow of the offense. Uconn now down by 7, 50-43. What happens if CW can hit those shots, which are easy mid-range shots?? This is why we now have NM (Nika) starting and PB coming off those picks for the mid-range instead of CW! What happens if we get a little help defense to protect the lane from Liv?

AG defensive rebound, AG misses a three and then CW gives up the ANOTHER easy lay-up. CW defense is beyond horrible! But GA must be ok with this because he decides to sit AG instead. AG out of the game at 7 minutes, 52-43 Ark, never to return. CW gets another mid-range but gets her shot blocked this time.

CW gives up the drive AGAIN with the foul. CW gives up a three AGAIN, bricks 2 FTs and then bricks an open three. Dungee going off with 2 three pointers…but AG is on the bench. GA has seen enough of CW missing and now makes PB the focal point of the offense with NM at the point to feed her coming off picks…gets a quick 4 points and goes off the rest of the game.

4th offensive foul on Uconn with complete BS call on EW. Dungees get to the rim again creating the put-back for Barnum. To be honest, this was one of several times I thought Dungee drew the foul, but none called. Really savvy player! Dungee goes by MM but that was a clear offensive foul…hmm Uconn called for ticky tacky offensive fouls (2 were not even fouls) and clearly Dungee pushes off and doesn’t get called for the foul!

5th offensive foul on Uconn as AE fouls out. How many times does a team get called for 5 offensive fouls in 2.5 quarters?? That is hard, very hard to do! Refs are biased with these calls.

CW gives up ANOTHER corner 3 after NM played Dungee tough. An horrendous defensive game by CW. Numerous defensive lapses by CW and throwing up bricks on offensive but for some reason, GA sticks with her.

Rameriz closes the 3rd out with a deep contested three. Uconn down 72-62 and falls three points further behind with AG on the bench who only played 3 minutes in the 3rd quarter. UConn gives up 31 points in the 3rd alone after giving up 41 in the entire first half. Obviously, AG sitting on the bench didn’t help. To be fair, Ark was hitting their shots too.

4th quarter

Dungee gets away with another clear push off. Makes no sense that the refs don’t see this but yet call tick-tacky offensive fouls against Uconn and two were not even fouls. Dungee abuses EW again and goes around her likes she isn’t even there. Dungee against CW or EW is like taking candy from a baby!

Uconn closing the gap as PB has taken over with NM in the game. This is when I think GA started to contemplate starting NM so he can get PB more involved and CW less involved.

Dungee gets away with at least her 3rd offensive foul by pushing NM to the floor. Also, this was the last terrific game on the offensive end from EW. She was terrific on that end, but not very good defensively. EW goes under the screen giving up ANOTHER 3 to Rameriz.

Dungee abuses CW AGAIN to the bucket for the 2 and a foul.
 
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Except your “analysis” is littered with opinion and interpretation so IMO your thread title is very inaccurate. Having said that you are obviously more than entitled to your opinion which is what you presented. But the fact remains Griffin is an extremely gifted athlete with limited basketball skills, understanding and innate “feel” for the game. And believe me, I knew her father fairly well when he played at SH and he is a complete class act; there is nothing more I would like than for his daughter to succeed big time, but her game is her game. I think Auriemma, Dailey and staff use her exactly as she should be used.
 

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Not buying any of this. Especially the party where when Dungee beats everyone else it is in your words "abuse" but when she beats Aubrey she just happen to get by. My observation is that Dungee was an equally opportunity abuser in this game. Dungee, Slocum and Ramirez was giving it to EVERYONE!
 

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Make sure Geno gets and reads the memo. Very interesting information here.
How about he just watches game film and come up with his own plan, oh wait he does. Hence the new starting lineup and substitution pattern, which may change with Nika's injury.
 
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With a week layoff and due to recent disagreements concerning AG’s play, in particular against Ark, I decided to review the game, mostly keeping my eye on 4 players: AG, CW, EW and Dungee. For convenience, I’ve broken this analysis down by summary and then the details.

For those of you who think AG got abused by Dungee, you are flat wrong! No way to cherry-coat it, you are full of complete bulls***!

These are the facts: AG gave up 7 points to Dungee the entire time she was in the game. Most all of AG’s offensive and rebounding stats came in the first half when she played 16 of 20 minutes.

Dungee scored 30 points off of Uconn players not named AG. CW and EW were consistently abused by Dungee, but to my knowledge nobody has ever mentioned this. Instead, somehow it was AG’s fault Dungee went for 37. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your silly opinion. If we play Ark, again, I would think GA would come up with slightly different plan to guard Dungee.

Frist half summary:

AG plays all but 4 minutes. Uconn up 2. 43-41. Uconn on pace to score 86 pts which is ample to win games and most of the time AG is in the game. But yet I constantly hear that AG slows down the offense!!!

Poor defense by most Uconn players EXCEPT AG causing Ark to score 41. AG only gave up 3 points in the first half to Dungee. Numerous TOs by UCONN players not named AG thereby wasting several possessions!

AG scores 6 pts on 2-4 shooting, including a 3. 5 rebounds, including 2 offensive (only one in the box but definitely had 2), 2 steals. She also created two additional possessions for Uconn which don’t get counted in the box but are as good as steals: tie-up to gain an extra possession and caused a TO with aggressive defense to gain another additional possession.

Defense: Dungee 1-2 against AG, scored ONLY 3 points. Twice AG stopped Dungee cold. Dungee running by all other UCONN defenders like they don’t exist! Dungee scores 12 on the rest of the team for a total of 15 at the half.

AG played very well in the first half. She did her job!

Second Half summary:

AG plays only 3 minutes: goes 0-1, 1 rebound and gives up 4 pts. Then she sits the rest of the game.

First Half Details:

2 Rebounds, 2 steals – fumbled the second one out of bounds when going in for the layup, post up for 2,missed 2 outside jumpers 1 for 2 on FT, scoring 3 in the 1st Qtr, great defense throughout and gave up only 3pts to Dungee. Stopped her cold once and she shot 1-2. CW very good shooting. Problem with TOs from Liv and CW, losing 5 possession as a result. Score 22-18, UCONN on pace to score 88 – too many TOs.

Start of 2nd Qtr, EW on Dungee and she easily goes by her for 2 pts, then easily goes by CW for another two. Big difference when AG is on her as Dungee has to really work to score. CW with the TO but AG with the tie-up and saves the possession. With the extra possession that AG gave UCONN, we get a lay-up out of it. AG out at 8:10 to go in 2nd Qtr, Uconn up by 2 at 24-22. Later Dungee uses a pick and easily goes by CW again for 2 more pts.

Corner three and TOs killing UCONN. AG back in at 4:18. Sat for 4 minutes during which time AE took over. Uconn up by 3. AG immediately gets another rebound. Aggressive defense from AG causes a TO by Ark.

Uconn quickly goes up by 8 with AG back in the game but two straight poor defensive possessions, one by CW and the other by NM leads to 4 pts and then an offensive foul on AE. Then CW gives up 3 to Dungee. CW with the offensive foul and then gives up another easy two for Dungee. Got to wonder why GA has CW on Dungee. Dungee knows she can take her every time! Poor coaching.

AG with another offensive board to get UCONN another possession. Third offensive foul on Uconn in a span of 4 minutes. AG hits the three from the corner. Uconn leads at half 43-41



2nd Half Details:

Dungee immediately goes by EW like she wasn’t even there for a quick 2. Dungee puts 2-3 moves together to get a pretty scoop shot against AG. But, she had to really work for it. She didn’t just breeze by her like she does against CW and EW.

First time I saw poor defense by AG giving up the dribble penetration. Where is the help defense in the middle of the lane? Where is Liv? CW bricks two open shots in the flow of the offense. Uconn now down by 7, 50-43. What happens if CW can hit those shots, which are easy mid-range shots?? This is why we now have NM starting and PB coming off those picks for the mid-range instead of CW! What happens if we get a little help defense to protect the lane from Liv?

AG defensive rebound, AG misses a three and then CW gives up the ANOTHER easy lay-up. CW defense is beyond horrible! But GA must be ok with this because he decides to sit AG instead. AG out of the game at 7 minutes, 52-43 Ark, never to return. CW gets another mid-range but gets her shot blocked this time.

CW gives up the drive AGAIN with the foul. CW gives up a three AGAIN, bricks 2 FTs and then bricks an open three. Dungee going off with 2 three pointers…but AG is on the bench. GA has seen enough of CW missing and now makes PB the focal point of the offense with NM at the point to feed her coming off picks…gets a quick 4 points and goes off the rest of the game.

4th offensive foul on Uconn with complete BS call on EW. Dungees get to the rim again creating the put-back for Barnum. To be honest, this was one of several times I thought Dungee drew the foul, but none called. Really savvy player! Dungee goes by MM but that was a clear offensive foul…hmm Uconn called for ticky tacky offensive fouls (2 were not even fouls) and clearly Dungee pushes off and doesn’t get called for the foul!

5th offensive foul on Uconn as AE fouls out. How many times does a team get called for 5 offensive fouls in 2.5 quarters?? That is hard, very hard to do! Refs are biased with these calls.

CW gives up ANOTHER corner 3 after NM played Dungee tough. An horrendous defensive game by CW. Numerous defensive lapses by CW and throwing up bricks on offensive but for some reason, GA sticks with her.

Rameriz closes the 3rd out with a deep contested three. Uconn down 72-62 and falls three points further behind with AG on the bench who only played 3 minutes in the 3rd quarter. UConn gives up 31 points in the 3rd alone after giving up 41 in the entire first half. Obviously, AG sitting on the bench didn’t help. To be fair, Ark was hitting their shots too.

4th quarter

Dungee gets away with another clear push off. Makes no sense that the refs don’t see this but yet call tick-tacky offensive fouls against Uconn and two were not even fouls. Dungee abuses EW again and goes around her likes she isn’t even there. Dungee against CW or EW is like taking candy from a baby!

Uconn closing the gap as PB has taken over with NM in the game. This is when I think GA started to contemplate starting NM so he can get PB more involved and CW less involved.

Dungee gets away with at least her 3rd offensive foul by pushing NM to the floor. Also, this was the last terrific game on the offensive end from EW. She was terrific on that end, but not very good defensively. EW goes under the screen giving up ANOTHER 3 to Rameriz.

Dungee abuses CW AGAIN to the bucket for the 2 and a foul.

AMEN BROTHER !!!

I am NOT going to REPEAT AG's "PER MINUTE PLAYED" Statistics. BUT, AG leads the team in 2 categories and is 2nd in another. If AG was such a liability, these statistics would play out, BUT THEY DON'T !!
 
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AMEN BROTHER !!!

I am NOT going to REPEAT AG's "PER MINUTE PLAYED" Statistics. BUT, AG leads the team in 2 categories and is 2nd in another. If AG was such a liability, these statistics would play out, BUT THEY DON'T !!
I don’t recall anyone saying she is a liability, only that her basketball skills and acumen are limited and that she is being used properly.
 
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I don’t recall anyone saying she is a liability, only that her basketball skills and acumen are limited and that she is being used properly.

I don't recall you saying she was a "Liability" either. THUS THE REASON WHY I DIDN'T QUOTE YOUR ORIGINAL POST !!! (I only made that statement, coming from my "Personal Opinion" reading MANY POSTS over this past season about AG's questionable overall play)
 

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PEACE AND LOVE EVERYONE !! I LOVE AND ENJOY AUBREY GRIFFIN'S GAME TOO AND BELIEVE HER "PER MINUTE PLAYED" STATS WARRANT INCREASED PLAYING TIME, BUT PLEASE REMEMBER AND "RESPECT" (AND THIS INCLUDES EVERYONE ON THE BONEYARD

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My opinion is that the right to an opinion should not be conflated with a right to be agreed with. Nobody has one of those.
 
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My opinion is that the right to an opinion should not be conflated with a right to be agreed with. Nobody has one of those.

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I don't recall you saying she was a "Liability" either. THUS THE REASON WHY I DIDN'T QUOTE YOUR ORIGINAL POST !!! (I only made that statement, coming from my "Personal Opinion" reading MANY POSTS over this past season about AG's questionable overall play)
Not sure why the capitals but to each their own. Anyway, there is a huge difference in discussing an overall as opposed to a restricted game and calling a player a liability; just my “personal opinion”.
 
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Not sure why the capitals but to each their own. Anyway, there is a huge difference in discussing an overall as opposed to a restricted game and calling a player a liability; just my “personal opinion”.
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Holy smokes, Jazz!! That was like a month ago! You still on that that ride? Let it go.

REMEMBER - EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO POST THEIR PERSONAL OPINIONS ON THIS SITE, WHEN EVER THEY WANT TO, JUST AS LONG AS IT IS RESPECTFUL !!! (And We All Can Agree To Disagree to which We ALL Also Must Respect). [although I happen to 100% agree with Jazz). So with that, my message to JAZZ is, POST AS YOU WILL and IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO GET YOUR "PERSONAL OPINION" ACCROSS, THEN

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With a week layoff and due to recent disagreements concerning AG’s play, in particular against Ark, I decided to review the game, mostly keeping my eye on 4 players: AG, CW, EW and Dungee. For convenience, I’ve broken this analysis down by summary and then the details.

For those of you who think AG got abused by Dungee, you are flat wrong! No way to cherry-coat it, you are full of complete bulls***!
Who exactly are these people?????

the man who killed don quixote GIF
 
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Except your “analysis” is littered with opinion and interpretation so IMO your thread title is very inaccurate. Having said that you are obviously more than entitled to your opinion which is what you presented. But the fact remains Griffin is an extremely gifted athlete with limited basketball skills, understanding and innate “feel” for the game. And believe me, I knew her father fairly well when he played at SH and he is a complete class act; there is nothing more I would like than for his daughter to succeed big time, but her game is her game. I think Auriemma, Dailey and staff use her exactly as she should be used.
There is little opinion there that isn't obvious to anybody who watched the game. What exactly do you call opinion vs fact. Most everything I said is fact. (

The main thrust of my post is that AG gave up a grand total of 7 points (fact) to Dungee when many people said she looked got owned by Dungee. Not true and back up by fact.

I didn't mention any opinion as to AG's performance except for the statistical facts and that she was NOT abused by Dungee. Your rebuttal on the other hand is completely littered with your opinion on her abilities. So your rebuttal is way off base to the facts that I presented.
 
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Does anyone know how Seton Hall and AEH made out last night- just asking?

To my good and well respected friend, COCO HUSKY, if you haven't read thru the GENERAL BASKETBALL Section of the Boneyard, the Seton Hall Pirates got beat by Creighton last evening in the Quarter-Finals of the Big East Tournament. I have already posted that I passed along KUDOS to Creighton for a Job Well Done. The Lady Pirates of Seton Hall got BEAT, plain and simple, in a game that they were picked by many to win. Seton Hall LOST. Creighton played a better overall game and deserved to move on. As it relates to AEH, she had 19 Points in the loss (not a basd night). Actually, Seton Hall's BIG THREE all had very good games. The rest of Seton Hall (notably their bench) were HORRIBLE last evening. AEH will be back next season, so those AEH/Ossining HS Bashers on the Boneyard will have another season to "Give Her The Business" (which it their right to do, to which I may disagree with, but I do respect) which I am sure that they all are SOOOOO VERY HAPPY about !! - So for now, EVERYONE should now simply focus on "UCONN vs. VILLANOVA" and "MARQUETTE vs. CREIGHTON" and to root on the Entire UCONN Team (yes, including Aubrey Griffin) to win not only the Big East Tournament as well as the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
 
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Who exactly are these people?????

the man who killed don quixote GIF
Don't remember exactly who but I remember comments like 'dungee was looking at AG in the rear view mirror' and others where the poster thought Dungee scored most of her 37 on AG, which was obviously not true
 
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