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I'm still annoyed about the Brian Burns trade. Why give up draft capital when the team is going to stink!?!
I'm still pissed off about this for a few reasons.

We could have signed Christian Wilkins for less than what we paid Burns and not have given up an early 2nd (plus another) pick.

We then could have used that pick to add a CB or DL.

We could have fielded a three man line that would have been very good stopping the run and capable of pushing the pocket, allowing a fourth rusher the ability to get to the QB.
 
Giants will save 19 million in cap space if/when they cut Daniel Jones next offseason.

Yes, I'm already thinking about that, lol.

I'm still annoyed about the Brian Burns trade. Why give up draft capital when the team is going to stink!?!
It's not like Burns is only here for this year, he's signed for 5 years and the thought of him and Thibodeaux rushing the passer together the next few years is very exciting. I think it was a great move
 
It's not like Burns is only here for this year, he's signed for 5 years and the thought of him and Thibodeaux rushing the passer together the next few years is very exciting. I think it was a great move
Fair point. He is also only 26.
 
In not so shocking news, this team is still bad. Can't predict an injury to a kicker on the first play, but maybe you can when he was injured before the game
 
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In not so shocking news, this team is still bad. Can't predict an injury to a kicker on the first play, but maybe you can when he was injured before the game
Defense couldn’t get off the field, Nabers missed a bunny. Just such a typical Giants loss.
 
Ending this season with an extra win or two will not be a good thing.

Nabers needs to develop a little but his ceiling may be higher than any WR we've ever had. He's played two NFL games, he'll continue to improve.

I am beyond concerned with our defense. It seems that we believe giving up rushing yards won't count. I despise the two man front (two OLBs standing as wide DE's does not make it a four man line) and I don't see how we will ever become competitive if teams can run on us at will.

At this point Burns' most impactful play had an OT called for holding him. I really hope to be proven wrong but I still cannot stand that move.
 
Ending this season with an extra win or two will not be a good thing.

Nabers needs to develop a little but his ceiling may be higher than any WR we've ever had. He's played two NFL games, he'll continue to improve.

I am beyond concerned with our defense. It seems that we believe giving up rushing yards won't count. I despise the two man front (two OLBs standing as wide DE's does not make it a four man line) and I don't see how we will ever become competitive if teams can run on us at will.

At this point Burns' most impactful play had an OT called for holding him. I really hope to be proven wrong but I still cannot stand that move.
Burns and Kayvon don’t add anything other than a pass rush, and when they don’t get any pass rush, they are pretty useless.
 
Ending this season with an extra win or two will not be a good thing.

Nabers needs to develop a little but his ceiling may be higher than any WR we've ever had. He's played two NFL games, he'll continue to improve.

I am beyond concerned with our defense. It seems that we believe giving up rushing yards won't count. I despise the two man front (two OLBs standing as wide DE's does not make it a four man line) and I don't see how we will ever become competitive if teams can run on us at will.

At this point Burns' most impactful play had an OT called for holding him. I really hope to be proven wrong but I still cannot stand that move.
To be fair Burns also had a sack that was called back because Dru Philips decided to tackle the WR he was supposed to cover. We need more from him and Kayvon but he was much more noticeable today. I really don't understand all the hate for the move to get him
 
To be fair Burns also had a sack that was called back because Dru Philips decided to tackle the WR he was supposed to cover. We need more from him and Kayvon but he was much more noticeable today. I really don't understand all the hate for the move to get him
That Phillips penalty was bogus. Ertz charged into him and he had the right to hold his ground. Should’ve been a no call.
 
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Injuries are a part of game, but Gano's hamstring killed the Giants yesterday. The game probably would have unfolded differently had he been healthy, but all else being the same, they should have never been in position to go for it on 4th & 4 on their last drive. They should have been up 24-18, forcing Washington to score a TD to win.

On the other hand, Daniel Jones is not the Giants' only problem. The defense gave up over 200 yards rushing, did not force a punt, and let up seven scoring drives. The Commanders are improving, but they shot themselves in the foot more than once in the redzone. All-in-all, that was a poor showing by the Giants' defense.

On the bright side for the Giants (dark for division rivals), Nabers is good and is probably only going to get better. You guys must be chomping at the bit to pair him with a serviceable QB.
 
Very happy with the win. The offense was great in the 1st half, much credit to DJ, as well as the O Line who has played pretty well thus far. The 2nd half was pretty gross, didn’t seem like we wanted to do much, but held on.

I want to preface this with I thought he played very well overall, but DJ may have the worst deep ball accuracy I have seen in some time. I’m not sure the stats will back that up, but he seems to overthrow every one of them. Slayton was open deep and missed him, Nabers ran that wheel-ish route that would’ve gone for a TD but he missed him. Would love for him to hit some of these to open up the offense even more.
 
That facemask call was unexplainable, then the holding which was obvious they call back. Interesting start from the Refs.
 
They look good but then can’t finish a drive. Wandale had a big drop and DJ forced it to Nabers while Singletary was open and he got a concussion because of it.

DJ again played pretty well, but if he could hit a deep ball we would have 3 or so more touchdowns this season. SMH.
 
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I do owe a partial apology to Burns for his play against Cleveland last week (while being a bit dinged up) and I was also pleasantly surprised at how our defense looked in that game but last night reinforced my belief that while we have some very good players, we aren't close to being a competitive team at the level we want the team to compete. I also have some serious doubts that those in position to build the roster and run the team are capable of getting us there.

Repeating a statement I've made for months to a coworker "I have zero problem moving on from Daniel Jones. I do not however want to spend a premium draft pick on a QB unless I am convinced he checks all of the boxes but at the moment I'm not sure there will be one of them in the 2025 draft".

Everything that I've seen, everything that I've read about Schoen and Daboll has me convinced that we will continue on the treadmill we've been on for more than a decade, the difference being that we may instead waste a top five pick on a QB every few years, fail, rinse, repeat.
 
Dallas' defense had not been good through 3 weeks, and a team who had given up 145 rushing yds/gm, held NYG to an anemic 26. It was evident last night that Nabers makes Daniel Jones better. OTOH, Jones cannot do it all himself, nor can he be relied upon to win games.

Nabers' concussion was unfortunate. Jones was on the run and off-balance, so putting the ball where only Nabers could catch it was an achievement, but it also meant that Nabers couldn't brace himself through the fall. It wasn't a designed rollout, so if he had a cleaner pocket, he'd probably have made a better throw. For Nabers' sake, I hope he can recover soon. The Giants have 10 days before Week 5, but Jones reverts to a mediocre QB (at best) without him.

The Below was in my "For You" Twitter feed this morning. Canty has lit the fire under Daboll's seat, and thinks Jones has a better chance to return in 2025. He might be right, though I can't believe Schoen would make the same mistake twice, which means unless they can make a drastic turn around, both might be gone and the Giants start over yet again. With Dan Snyder gone, the Giants might be the worst managed team in the NFC East.

 


The second pass was tough, a handful of QBs can make it, but it ended up being really poor and Nabers was open. But the first to Slayton, any QB should make that easily, and the one to Nabers in the first couldve been a TD if he was lead at all.
 
Even when Jones plays well he gives you the 5 minute drive field goal offense, he's mid at best.
 
Even when Jones plays well he gives you the 5 minute drive field goal offense, he's mid at best.
Ouch...OTOH, I love that Joseph wears a non-traditional number for a kicker. Also, does Gano have a return designation for IR? If so, he should probably find a way to spend all season there, for his own sake. The minute he is activated, he is cut.
 
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I could well be wrong but the only way I see Jones as a Giant in 2025 is if there ends up being some clandestine agreement between the Giants and the Manning family that Arch will either not enter the standard draft his firt year eligible (2026) but will then petition for the supplemental draft and inform everyone that he'll only play for the Giants or he will enter the standard draft and Cooper (Arch's father) does what Archie did a couple decades ago when Eli entered the draft and the Giants end up with him through a trade.

Shy of having a set target for 2026 who they know they will land, I see no way the Giants bring Jones back.

I was very encouraged with Daboll during his first season here but everything he has done since has me wondering what his thought process is. My gut tells me that he will have another year regardless but I would not be against letting him go after this season.
 
The Giants franchise should just be terminated, pour gasoline on it light a match and let it burn to the ground.
 
29-20 is the score of the weekend!
 
It really is amazing how the two programs have mirrored each other at times over the last few years.
 
Let's give credit to Jones, top receiver and RB are out and he was very good spreading the ball around and running hard yardage. No turnovers also unless I'm forgetting one.
 
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