The Official 2022 Mets Thread

[Rico444]

What is the thought process between offering Carrasco the option but not Walker?

Carrasco had a team option for $14 million; Walker would have been offered the QO which this year is $19.65 million. So I would imagine the $5.5 million in savings was the big factor. Walker could have also turned down the qualifying offer, whereas Carrasco's contract allowed for a team option so he had no say.

 

[navery12]

What is the thought process between offering Carrasco the option but not Walker?

Walker's was a player option for 1/$6M, he'll definitely get more than that so he turned it down. Carrasco's was a team option and he'd also get more than the $14M he's making now so was an easy decision to make for the Mets

 

[navery12]

 

[navery12]

 

[lavuuk153]

I didn’t know how I’d feel. Turns out it’s sad.

 

[Deepster]

I’m not. He took the money and an easy path. He’ll never pitch another meaningful game and be on the DL half the year and cash a huge check. Not someone you want to build a champion with.

 

[lavuuk153]

I’m not. He took the money and an easy path. He’ll never pitch another meaningful game and be on the DL half the year and cash a huge check. Not someone you want to build a champion with.

Oh logically I’m fine with what happened. I’ll never blame someone for taking the money.

 

[Deepster]

Oh logically I’m fine with what happened. I’ll never blame someone for taking the money.

Let me ask you this. Assume the Rangers don’t get to a WS in the next five years?

What is Jacob deGroms best moment? Some masterpiece in May?

 

[dvegas]

DeGone. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out to anonymity in Arlington. He just blew his shot at a championship (s) and the HOF. I trust Uncle Stevie.

 

[lavuuk153]

Let me ask you this. Assume the Rangers don’t get to a WS in the next five years?

What is Jacob deGroms best moment? Some masterpiece in May?

How is that different than his last 5 years? What’s his signature moment been? He’s started one playoff game and this with two cy young’s and a 3rd place finish.

I’m definitely interested in seeing what Cohen does with the deGrom money.

 

[lavuuk153]

DeGone. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out to anonymity in Arlington. He just blew his shot at a championship (s) and the HOF. I trust Uncle Stevie.

How did he blow a shot at the HoF? If he wins a cy young on a bad team that should be enough. The championship part I agree with.

 

[navery12]

Doesn't hurt much since I've been expecting this for months. But at the same time not gonna kill him on his way out. Top 2 Mets player of my lifetime and when he goes into the Hall of Fame it'll be with a Mets cap

 

[dvegas]

How did he blow a shot at the HoF?

You realize he's 82-57 In his 10 year career? Like the NY Post said, even the mistakes are bigger in Texas

 

[M.S.G.]

I’m not. He took the money and an easy path. He’ll never pitch another meaningful game and be on the DL half the year and cash a huge check. Not someone you want to build a champion with.

I hate that I kinda agree with this. I'm trying not to be sour grapes but it's difficult.

 

[M.S.G.]

How is that different than his last 5 years? What’s his signature moment been? He’s started one playoff game and this with two cy young’s and a 3rd place finish.

I’m definitely interested in seeing what Cohen does with the deGrom money.

Rodon and Bassitt would be great.. Verlander and Bassitt would be great..

Turner and Rodon would be magical.. put him in center and wow.

 

[lavuuk153]

You realize he's 82-57 In his 10 year career? Like the NY Post said, even the mistakes are bigger in Texas

I’m aware. Wins also aren’t going to be nearly as important to HoF voters going forward. There was a time you couldn’t win a Cy Young with a crappy record and he won them back to back (with 29/30 1st place votes each time) going 10-9 and 11-8.

The contract is most likely a mistake because of both the length and AAV, but if he has one more big year left in him and is reasonably healthy the other 4 (bigger IF) then I think he makes it in easy. A third Cy Young this year and he could make it without throwing another pitch.

 

[navery12]

 

[Deepster]

Verlander is a guy who wants to pitch the big game in the spotlight. Not shrink up and cash a check on an also-ran. And we get to see Kate Upton a lot now.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

A+ move for the Mets.

 

[M.S.G.]

Yeah I don't mind this deal at all, not one bit.

 

[Deepster]

And….we’re not tied to big money in years 3-4-5 when deGrom may likely handcuff the Rangers with his contract.

Never thought I’d say it but I’ll take Verlander for two over Jake for five. Very happy.

 

[lavuuk153]

This seems like a very good deal after what Walker just got.

 

[M.S.G.]

Ugh Quintana stinks... but these guys know muuuuuuuuuuuuch more than I do.

Still prefer Rodon to the Japanese SP

 

[navery12]

Ugh Quintana stinks... but these guys know muuuuuuuuuuuuch more than I do.

Still prefer Rodon to the Japanese SP

Rodon is much better, but also going to cost at least $50M more, with a few extra years on the contract and have to give up draft picks to get him

Quintana at the price is a great get as a 5th starter, he was really good last year

 

[Alum86]

Now off to market with McCann and selling him for some magic beans.

 

[navery12]

 

[navery12]

And more

 

[Deepster]

I’m glad they resigned Nimmo. Lifelong Met we can count on to rep us the right way during And after his playing days.

 

[Alum86]

Uncle Stevie not afraid to spend. But 8 years?

 

[lavuuk153]

Uncle Stevie not afraid to spend. But 8 years?

It keeps the AAV down and it’s “only” through his age 37 season. OBP skills usually age pretty well and there really isn’t anything left in the CF market both this year and the near future.