The Machinery Is in Motion to Postpone the 2020 College Football Season...

[UConnJim]

Financially, there is so much at stake for the college football talking heads, announcers, writers,... it’s hard to see how they can be unbiased as most are probably out of a job if college football isn’t played this fall.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Earlier this week...

That sounds more like a athletic conditioning issue more than a long-term (or even short-term) health issue.

He would hardly be the first player to get any sort of viral infection, or an injury in general, and the recovery took him out of practice/playing shape. You shut them down so they don't get hurt.

 

[huskymedic]

That sounds more like a athletic conditioning issue more than a long-term (or even short-term) health issue.

He would hardly be the first player to get any sort of viral infection, or an injury in general, and the recovery took him out of practice/playing shape. You shut them down so they don't get hurt.

Sure... they are other stories out there w/ typical writer/fan speculation but on the surface it’s seems like he has multiple medical/health issues playing out post-Covid. Be interesting to see how he fares over time.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Any chance that Nebraska, maybe Ohio St and a few other football-centric B1G, Pac-12, and ACC (I see the tobacco road Presidents eventually shutting down football at some point in August) joining a majority of SEC and XII schools to form a 'temporary' football conference this fall?

 

[huskymedic]

Any chance that Nebraska, maybe Ohio St and a few other football-centric B1G, Pac-12, and ACC (I see the tobacco road Presidents eventually shutting down football at some point in August) joining a majority of SEC and XII schools to form a 'temporary' football conference this fall?

Doesn’t sound like it (from Big10 thread):

>>When Warren was asked specifically by Yahoo Sports if Nebraska could play college football this fall, he gave an answer that would make his hardline predecessor nod with approval.

“No,” he said, firmly. “Not and be a member of the Big Ten Conference.”

Warren’s concise Nebraska rebuttal is a nice window into the bottom line he used to help guide the decision that may ultimately define his career as Big Ten commissioner. He politely told Nebraska that if it goes rogue, it can pack it where the corn doesn’t husk. And the league would be happy to keep its $50 million cut and share it with those who play nice.<<

 

[pepband99]

Any chance that Nebraska, maybe Ohio St and a few other football-centric B1G, Pac-12, and ACC (I see the tobacco road Presidents eventually shutting down football at some point in August) joining a majority of SEC and XII schools to form a 'temporary' football conference this fall?

The B1G has already told Nebraska they can kiss their membership goodbye if they do.

 

[huskypantz]

If you believe 18-21 year olds can’t make this decision about playing ball then you must believe the voting age too low. If they can’t make one section, how can they make any decisions? (I’ll save you the key strokes, I think the drinking age should be rolled back to 19.)

Calling coaches that want to give it a go irresponsible killers which is basically your view isn’t fair rhetoric.

Sometimes we make decisions for the general public. Both for their own safety and the safety of others.

• Seat belts
• Child safety seats
• Pedestrian walk areas
• Bicycle and/or motorcycle helmets
• Operating under the influence
• Speed limits

Many more and I'm sure any personal injury lawyers on the site can rattle them off like they would their kids' names.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Waquoit]

It completely disrespects young adults and their own choices and completely ignores all the efforts that are being made here.

The "young adults" don't have a real choice. And what efforts are being made besides whistling in the dark?

 

[Nextmanup]

My hunch is the Big 12 and ACC will play some games then give it up. SEC will soldier on. I could see 5he ACC splitting with BC, Syracuse forced out by state leaders and maybe a couple of Virginia, Duke and Carolina and NC State ultimately coming to their senses. If one of the NC schools goes out the remainder will follow. My money is on Duke.

And after these boys play that 5th game and then they cancel the season cause to many have to quarantine due to exposure all those kids that played and blew their redshirts will be pissed and another problem will now start!! What a mess.

 

[Exit 4]

Sometimes we make decisions for the general public. Both for their own safety and the safety of others.

• Seat belts
• Child safety seats
• Pedestrian walk areas
• Bicycle and/or motorcycle helmets
• Operating under the influence
• Speed limits

Many more and I'm sure any personal injury lawyers on the site can rattle them off like they would their kids' names.

Well now we are going down the rabbit hole. None what you stated is predicated on the notion that young adults cannot make informed decisions. With every reg you sited 18 year olds are governed the same as 50 year olds. Child seat bet laws govern minors. The only reg I can quickly think of that splits differently is renting a car and frankly the ACLU should be pushing the case that 18-24 year olds should be able to rent cars probably with larger security deposits.

 

[Exit 4]

The "young adults" don't have a real choice. And what efforts are being made besides whistling in the dark?

What efforts? OMG - okay whatever. No point in having a discussion with those that willfully ignore what is in plain sight.

 

[uconndogs]

My daughter is playing premier soccer and has a game tonight. I am not against athletes playing their sports. But when you're in charge of students and you're compelling them in some way (which the coaches are doing undeniably) then ethical questions become involved, especially when there's this much money at stake. So, keeping safe for local practices when there are 85 kids involved is one thing, but playing a traveling schedule over state lines is quite another.

I still say the particular politics of each state are determining what should be a unanimous decision.

This is pretty much where I am. I continue to believe that the risks to the players having a season may be less than spending time in the general student population. But, that’s besides the point. There are moral, ethical, legal and public relation issues that these schools have to address and not playing is the right call.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Waquoit]

What efforts? OMG - okay whatever. No point in having a discussion with those that willfully ignore what is in plain sight.

If there's so many, name two. I just hear boilerplate.

You are already are lost in your own nonsense. You said to pantz "None what you stated is predicated on the notion that young adults cannot make informed decisions." Yet his first example, mandatory seat belt laws, is just that.

 

[Exit 4]

If there's so many, name two. I just hear boilerplate.

You already are lost in your own nonsense. You said to pantz "None what you stated is predicated on the notion that young adults cannot make informed decisions." Yet his first example, mandatory seat belt laws, is just that.

So yeah lets just ignore the regular COVid testing, regular spacing/limited socializing within the team and outside the team, constant health monitoring, tracing when needed and the elevated cleaning/sanitizing for equipment and facilities.

This is comparable to participation in other high risk sports, not seat belt laws. High risk sports like skydiving, mountain biking, triathlons, etc, In none of those high risk activities does society dictate that young adults are incapable of make informed decisions. And no surprise, participation in those sports almost always requires a waiver.

What's nonsense is calling coaches killers. What's tiresome is a society that can't decide if young adults are indeed adults or children. I think we have made a mistake with our low expectations and mixed messages about being a young adult.

 

[polycom]

Finally the adults have stepped into the room. Cancelling was the only option since March... If they had been smart they could have figured out in a June maybe how to have a season in spring... instead they'll use February to do that.

 

[Jimdish255]

So glad we're not in the AAC. I understand the culture of Independence and football intensity driving the southern conferences to push forward and don't totally fault them for that. But a smaller conference as spread out as the, AAC seeking to capitalize on an opportunity to fill the programming void of Big Ten and PAC 12 seems more cynically calculated. As stated before, no problem with trying to make this work if the data supports it, but for the sake of coaches, staff and other students I'd probably err on the side of caution. As Neuheisel and Childers just said, "Red is playing and Blue is not". We live in 2 worlds. If a team comes back from a road trip and brings the virus back to campus with them watch out. If the NCAA had any stones they would require Universities participating to provide the same testing/tracing to all students as the athletes get.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Huskygrad88]

...and miraculously the data will have changed and they will postpone season solely based on this new info and NOT because of any other pressure???

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Coaches think they can contain the risk - but they also know they certainly can’t eliminate it.

Personally would I play this fall? Probably would give it a go, but I’m the edge ready to bail as soon as my team had problems.

As for the student athletes arguing on tweeter, this part of the unintended consequences of student organization and student associations. As the idea or organizing comes together it’s going to bring a lot of internal tension to the teams. It’s going to do some good things and some things people will wish never became part of the dynamic. Most kids are there to ball, not there to get wrapped up in a work movement and that will create issues.

The ACC medical board and its chair have already been proven wrong within its own conference. Unless having 37 players test positive is an acceptable risk.

 

[upstater]

What a fiasco.

& the modern leadership of colleges has finally had its pants pulled down.

 

[Exit 4]

The ACC medical board and its chair have already been proven wrong within its own conference. Unless having 37 players test positive is an acceptable risk.

37 conference wide? Not great, not horrible. It’s a virus- results will vary. Didn’t know the medical board was making guarantees.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

The ACC medical board and its chair have already been proven wrong within its own conference. Unless having 37 players test positive is an acceptable risk.

Unsure about ACC positive COVID19 results conference-wide, but Clemson alone acknowledged 37 football players tested positive in their football program alone (reported in some article regarding their player redshirting due to COVID19). Just 1 ACC school = 37 + results.

With several ACC schools in current COVID19 deep-red zone states and with so many ACC players in other states from FL, GA, SC, etc, the ACC must have had more than 37 total test positive.

 

[billybud]

Heck...have to test with students back...FSU's lab processed 1,000 tests last week and is ramping up for 1,000 a day...

If a school doesn't have a plan...do not open for students.

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[upstater]

Heck...have to test with students back...FSU's lab processed 1,000 tests last week and is ramping up for 1,000 a day...

If a school doesn't have a plan...do not open for students.

TheOsceola

The definitive source for all Florida State news.

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Ramp up? The goal?

I mean, that's just not going to work.

 

[huskymedic]

Been spot on lately...

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

... that's just not going to work.

FSU enrollment: 40K+ (excluding faculty, administration, other school & local business employees, etc).
Even after FSU tests occurring every undefined # of days, potential SARS-2 carriers returning to classrooms, labs, dorms, dining halls, apartments, etc. for up to an entire day. That ignores many more thousands floating about campus and Tallahasee between tests.
Correct: "that's just not going to work" (for FSU nor the community)

Nationwide, we desperately need far more FDA-cleared, rapid diagnostic and antibody test kits enabling accurate results in <1 hour. Not 24 hour turnaround!

 

[huskymedic]