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OT: The Future of FOX and The Big East


superjohn said:
Do you honestly think you know more about the Big East and UConn basketball than I do? You aren't even a fan of either. You're posting verbal diarrhea in other threads about how good BC basketball is.

UConn is dominant right now, you aren't supposed to be here.
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No he didn't did he? And I am curious why he poked his head out recently withthis run.
 
shizzle787 said:
I want to renew with FOX. All games are on linear cable. As long as we keep that deal and increase from 4-6 million per year, that will be good.
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The Big 12 has streaming-only games, the SEC has streaming-only games, the Big Ten has streaming-only games, the ACC has streaming-only games- the Big East will too.
 
Fishy said:
The Big East has no money to expand. They don’t have a television contract.

You’re hearing nothing and making up nonsense.
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FOX would want the Big East to expand slightly, using a new contract as incentive.

Big East personally doesn’t want to expand.
 
UofCT said:
I wouldn’t mind going back to ESPN. We would get ESPNU at worst, doubt we would ever get put on ESPN+.
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Playing second fiddle on ESPN is the single worst place to be - just ask hockey fans. You'll be immediate filler content, crammed into the worst imaginable timeslots with the lowest possible production value just like you were in the AAC.

I'm the type of dinosaur who will die in front of the cable box before I try streaming, but even I would think long and hard about linking up with a streaming service - especially if its a brand like Apple - if FOX doesn't offer a representative deal. This league is playing from behind and must to be forward-thinking and quick on its feet to thrive long-term.
 
Drew said:
I mean this very respectfully, but you don’t base what league you’re going to put your athletic department in based off of being able to potentially play 3 men’s basketball games at MSG in March. In the same vein, you don’t base it off where you are playing any of the championship events for any of your sponsored sports. UConn can (will) still play games at MSG regardless of the league they call home.

It’s really not that complicated of a choice, the athletics administration has a financial duty to the university and state to maximize their revenue potential for the entire athletic department. There is no rational world in which an administrator would ever turn down a potential 10x revenue increase for it’s department for nostalgia/feelings- they would be nuking their entire career by doing so.

This is evidenced by numerous different efforts from UConn over the years, including being left at the altar last year (yet again) by the Big 12. If the invite came last August, they were gone. We would’ve been playing in the Big 12 starting in July of this year along with Colorado and anyone else. The school has spent years and years and millions of dollars trying to move up- they aren’t turning that opportunity down (and shouldn’t turn it down) if it ever comes to them.
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No disrespect received. Your argument is logically sound.

I'm arguing three things. The sentiment of the majority of this forum. The fiducial responsibility and necessity for the university. And my personal feelings. I think I have been gracious in considering the fiducial responsibility of the university in my final decision but as an individual with a 5-15 year life expectancy I certainly have to take into consideration my personal happiness. I don't have much time remaining for the football program to become relevant again. And that's my optimistic view with that program. I don't know why but the majority of basketball programs that have left the BE are struggling. Conferences are like cultures. Not everyone from the south can move to the northeast and be comfortable and vice versa. Money is the most important factor without a doubt for the university. I won't argue against what they have to do. But the last thing I want to see is UConn becoming BCU in basketball.

There are a number of fans in this forum who, for their own personal reasons, love those "meaningless" games at Storrs South and the cache it brings to the program. They have no allegiance to the football program. Some don't even care about the university. I assume many make contributions to the university either by purchasing season tickets or sending money to the alumni association. Those contributions are obviously small relative to a much better media contract and the reason for my lean and your response to my prior post but I want to respect their viewpoint.

Let's face it. An argument can be made that universities should abandon sports altogether and do what their primary focus should be - education. That would be the most fiduciary responsible thing of all. I'm sure some of the P3 schools ADS are not in the black even with their grandiose media contracts. I have no love for Texass, Duh Ohio State and Blama. There's a strong part of me that would love the whole system to collapse just to bring back some sanity to higher education. But selfishly I'm not ready for that to happen as long as the mens and women's programs are giving me satisfaction.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
I’m surprised Netflix hasn’t gotten into the live sports arena yet.
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It's coming.

Netflix, conversely, has more than 260 million global subscribers, tops of any streaming network, and that number is still growing. That large and expanding audience helps explain why there has been so much interest in Netflix’s sports aspirations, even as it previously balked at paying large-scale rights fees.

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Netflix will begin its journey into live sports streaming with likely the most natural and favorable set of circumstances.
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UConnTrumbull said:
Does FOX even use streaming?
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Yes. Remember our first game this season? The game on FS1 had whip around coverage. The streaming Foxsports app was where you could watch the entire UConn game. I watched the Georgetown game on 2/10 on my phone on a flight.
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
How does adding mid majors help the league and UCONN?
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IMO, adding mid-majors like Gonzaga, St. Mary’s, Wichita St, VCU and Dayton would more be about protection for the league than increased payouts (on a per school basis, at least).

I do think there is a rational argument for getting every single (or as much as possible) top non-football basketball brand into a singular conference in the changing college landscape where the rest of the Power conferences are all expanding to 16+.

Adding those schools would possibly help ensure a stronger voice in any future changes to the NCAA tournament. But I’m not even convinced that would matter lol, and it doesn’t really do anything for UConn.
 
ctchamps said:
The BE offers UConn fans several things that shouldn't be discounted. MSG for both the tournament and games against St. Johns, geographical proximity with many of the teams, and a long and successful history that would end with a conference change.

That has to weighed against the changes in college sports that are reaching a climax in the near future. With that climax there is a strong possibility that UConn will find its sports, including basketball, relegated somewhere between the Power 3 and Division 2.

It's difficult to argue against an excited fan base that is contributing massive amounts of money, money that somewhat reduces the deficit of our conference inequity. Even more difficult given the success our basketball teams have had recently with the Big East especially given our struggles in the AAC. Plus the accurate observation that most of the former BE members are currently struggling in their new homes.

I lean ever so slightly that if we get an invite to the B12 we take it. I hate the idea of leaving the BE but I feel the outcome of the future I'm portraying is too likely. The glory days of the BE will be nothing more than a fond memory. And the ACC is not much safer if my predictions are correct.
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Your last paragraph is Nostradamusesqe.
 
freescooter said:
You clearly have no idea of what you are talking about. Between 1999 and 2013 when it ceased to exist, Big East teams won National championships in 1999, 2003, 2004, 2011 and 2013. But in addition they had Final Four Teams in 2007, 2009 (2), 2010, 2012 and 2013 (2). Plus 6 more Final Four teams. But the glory years were behind it in the mid-90s. Yikes! Yes UConn was the dominant team. But hardly the only national power.
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All true facts. But the Big12 or Big10 don’t want our football program. And that’s where the sustainable big money is at. I only wish that if the ACC collapses, perhaps UConn, Syracuse, Pitt and a few decent current ACC programs and a couple of eastern schools join a realigned ACC or form a new conference. But the league would need some blue blood and storied schools.
 
The same 10-12 posters have to interject every Big East thread with their miserable "UConn sucks and is going to fail" posts. It is exhausting to be a UConn fan despite the fact that the basketball team is pursuing back to back championships, because there is a loud contingent of posters that would rather we were all miserable.

Spoiler alert: We all get that UConn is not in a great spot right now in conference realignment. How freaking stupid does someone have to be to think that every poster on this board hasn't already figured that out? Some of us may have different estimates of the probabilities of various outcomes, but we all know. That said, the rest of us just have enough self-control not to spray our misery all over the board like some elderly cat with dementia.

We heard the Debbie Downers the first 50 times when they said that UConn will get no money from Fox and will be on public access streaming or whatever they predicted will happen. We don't need to hear prediction #51 if it is going to be the same as the ones before it. Go start a thread on the Realignment Board if you want to talk about how UConn athletics is going to sink into the ground, dragging the school with it, and every UConn fan will die of a bleeding butthole. I would rather not read about it on the basketball board.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The same 10-12 posters have to interject every Big East thread with their miserable "UConn sucks and is going to fail" posts. It is exhausting to be a UConn fan despite the fact that the basketball team is pursuing back to back championships, because there is a loud contingent of posters that would rather we were all miserable.

Spoiler alert: We all get that UConn is not in a great spot right now in conference realignment. How freaking stupid does someone have to be to think that every poster on this board hasn't already figured that out? Some of us may have different estimates of the probabilities of various outcomes, but we all know. That said, the rest of us just have enough self-control not to spray our misery all over the board like some elderly cat with dementia.

We heard the Debbie Downers the first 50 times when they said that UConn will get no money from Fox and will be on public access streaming or whatever they predicted will happen. We don't need to hear prediction #51 if it is going to be the same as the ones before it. Go start a thread on the Realignment Board if you want to talk about how UConn athletics is going to sink into the ground, dragging the school with it, and every UConn fan will die of a bleeding butthole. I would rather not read about it on the basketball board.
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You could almost view UConn as in its glory days right now. We were never a player in FB so we really haven’t lost anything there. But what about BBall? Have we ever been better? Fingers crossed, knocking on wood, but this last year 1/2 has been amazing. Who would want to trade places with SU or BC or Pitt right now? Mediocre in everything, nothing to cheer about, nothing to be proud of? Personally, when you are this accomplished in a given area, then don’t change a thing. Just enjoy it. Be thankful, this may never come again. Like the OP says, there is nothing to be miserable about.
 
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kobe said:
reading this thread rules so much
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Well, given that Cincinnati is 5-7 in conference, I'm sure you're grateful for any distraction you can get.

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The Big East is most likely going back to ESPN and will absorb the ACC leftovers and resume a football division. The ACC is going to be extinct in a few years. It will lose members to the B1G, SEC and B12. The rest will join the Big East.
 
superjohn said:
No shart. We had another short stretch of dominance when we added teams from other conferences. And the Big East won National Championships in 2016, 2018, and 2023 when you were talking about how badly the Big East and UConn suck before you disappeared again after UConn won it all. As I said the Big East and ACC win most of the championships.

Do you honestly think you know more about the Big East and UConn basketball than I do? You aren't even a fan of either. You're posting verbal diarrhea in other threads about how good BC basketball is.

UConn is dominant right now, you aren't supposed to be here.
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So I get this straight, Mr Big East Expert, the current Big East is the Big East, but the original Big East when it expanded was not the Big East because it added schools who were not original. :rolleyes:

LOL, Mr. Big East. I said BC basketball WAS good from roughly the mid-60s through early 2000s. They had a string of excellent coaches. Maybe you’ve heard of some of them. Bob Cousy, Chuck Daly, Tom Davis, Gary Williams, Jim O’Brien. Skinner was solid. Not great but better than the chuckleheads they’ve had since. Since firing Skinner they have been very bad to just not good. Bad fit in the ACC I think but also they have made a decision that basketball isn’t important to them. Schools sometimes do that. We’ve made that decision on all our sports except basketball. BC won a couple of original Big East Tournaments, won or shared the regular season title a few times, and made trips to the Elite 8 in 1982 and 94 (I think, might have been 1995). So yeah, Mr Big East Expert, they were pretty good.
 
As much as we collectively dislike the jerks in Bristol I have given up on FOX. They don’t promote the conference, or UConn. Even today their app had an alert saying UConn coach Bobby Hurley …..

I’ll gladly go back to ESPN
 
freescooter said:
So I get this straight, Mr Big East Expert, the current Big East is the Big East, but the original Big East when it expanded was not the Big East because it added schools who were not original. :rolleyes:

LOL, Mr. Big East. I said BC basketball WAS good from roughly the mid-60s through early 2000s. They had a string of excellent coaches. Maybe you’ve heard of some of them. Bob Cousy, Chuck Daly, Tom Davis, Gary Williams, Jim O’Brien. Skinner was solid. Not great but better than the chuckleheads they’ve had since. Since firing Skinner they have been very bad to just not good. Bad fit in the ACC I think but also they have made a decision that basketball isn’t important to them. Schools sometimes do that. We’ve made that decision on all our sports except basketball. BC won a couple of original Big East Tournaments, won or shared the regular season title a few times, and made trips to the Elite 8 in 1982 and 94 (I think, might have been 1995). So yeah, Mr Big East Expert, they were pretty good.
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Mikey DiMauro keep going, this is awesome!
 
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Ratings for Saturday’s games. I don’t know enough about what’s a good rating these days but 1 mil viewers seems good. Though I imagine if this game was on ESPN (#1 vs # 4 teams) it would’ve been higher?
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UConn Dan said:
Ratings for Saturday’s games. I don’t know enough about what’s a good rating these days but 1 mil viewers seems good. Though I imagine if this game was on ESPN (#1 vs # 4 teams) it would’ve been higher?
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It’s good… but I thought it would more..I think the game being a blowout hurt the ratings
 
For context, the highest rating Big East game ever is 3 million, which was Creighton - DePaul last year as a lead in to football.

The highest non-football lead in was 1.4 million.
 
How Sway?! said:
Same could have been said for the B12.
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The Big 12 had a pro-rata clause in their contract - and networks in their corner which is why they’ve managed to add eight new schools recently.

The Big East has an expiring contract, no football and no leverage.

So no, you could not have said the same about the Big 12.
 
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Fishy said:
The Big 12 had a pro-rata clause in their contract - and networks in their corner which is why they’ve managed to add eight new schools recently.

The Big East has an expiring contract, no football and no leverage.

So no, you could not have said the same about the Big 12.
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Big 12 had an expiring contract with their two biggest brands leaving. They didn't have much leverage either. Only reason they were able to get 8 new schools was because the PAC 12 constantly shot themselves in the foot.

Also the Big East also has a pro rata clause up to 12 schools.
 
Fishy said:
The Big 12 had a pro-rata clause in their contract - and networks in their corner which is why they’ve managed to add eight new schools recently.

The Big East has an expiring contract, no football and no leverage.

So no, you could not have said the same about the Big 12.
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UConn is not in one of the P4 leagues. There is not a single poster on this board that is not aware of that fact. You have no special insight on this topic that every other poster does not also have.

So are you ever going to give it a rest? No one on this board spends more time crapping on UConn than you do. Why are you even a UConn fan?
 
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