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The expanded College Football Playoff off to a rough start

Husky25 said:
I'm going to hold off judgement until at least tonight and even then there is no predicting what it is going to look like in 10 years. NIL Conglomerates will attract the best freshmen, but these kids want to play too. Nick Saban is not walking through that door and hording all the 5*s. It should even out.
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So the next close game balances out 10 years of blowouts? Interesting.

College football has always been mismatched at the top. Most of the fun, close games are between mediocre teams.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
I haven’t seen much of Boise this year. Are they more than just Jeanty? It feels like Penn St. should have the defense to somewhat control Jeanty and Boise will need to show a passing game.
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Jeanty is unbelievable. Only seen a couple Boise games but he is a guy that makes you catch your breath.

I don't think Boise will win because I think Penn State will be able to keep Boise behind the sticks enough to limit Jeanty's effectiveness. But I sure don't like that -11 number, and if things break right, Boise could sneak away with this one IMHO.
 
Is anyone still arguing that a selection process that would have gotten Alabama into the CFP is the answer?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
So the next close game balances out 10 years of blowouts? Interesting.

College football has always been mismatched at the top. Most of the fun, close games are between mediocre teams.
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Not exactly what I said, but whatever.

Mediocre football is not fun just because the game might be close. It's still mediocre football. I found last year's CFP final to be enjoyable and it was a 3 score game. It was 100% better than back in the day when (for example) #1 might beat #16 in the Rose Bowl and #2 destroying #21 in the Orange Bowl and relying on voters to split the hardware.

Look at the NFL. Every single player is NFL caliber and yet playoff blowouts happen all the time. It took about a decade and a half for a wild card to win the Super Bowl.

My main point is NIL, transfer portal, and the 12 team playoff has been in existence together for about 7 days. Let it play out before jumping to anecdotal conclusions.

I'm for one am looking forward to the quarters.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Another game, another mismatch.
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If you look at the score as the be-all and end-all, you could say that. If you look at the actual offensive stats showing Boise outgained PSU,and had more 1st downs, you might come to a different conclusion. This was a classic "whomever wins the turnover battle" game, and PSU did win that, 4-1.
 
storrsroars said:
Depends on how you define "work".

It's often been stated that the sole purpose of the CFP is to help ensure the "best" team succeeds and wins the crown. It's not to guarantee entertaining contests.

If one goes by that definition, then this year's CFP is the best way to do that that's been devised thus far. Although I still think they could've accomplished the same with just eight teams.
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This is the paradox of CFB. How do you know the best teams until they play?

Winning a major conference championship is an actual thing. It's objective. So Boise and ASU get byes, big whoop. They have to still beat 3 too teams to win the title. If they were #5 and #6 we'd still have the same matchups. If they were #7 & #8, we'd still have similar matchups. It doesn't really matter.

All you'd he doing is saying the A team like Tennessee or SMU could beat them in the first round. While that's true, it doesn't affect the ultimate outcome
 
storrsroars said:
Depends on how you define "work".

It's often been stated that the sole purpose of the CFP is to help ensure the "best" team succeeds and wins the crown. It's not to guarantee entertaining contests.

If one goes by that definition, then this year's CFP is the best way to do that that's been devised thus far. Although I still think they could've accomplished the same with just eight teams.
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Did you really just post that college football is not about entertaining its viewers? You are aware that the players are not curing disease or inventing a new AI application, they are playing football. The reason there are billions of dollars to split among them is because people are entertained. If it stops being entertaining, a lot of people in the college football industry are going to make a lot less money.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
What is your solution?
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OT: - NIL and the Transfer Portal...How do you fix it?

Maybe this is a topic that has been posted before, but what is the fix? I don't see NIL itself as the problem, but rather NIL coupled with the transfer portal, where everyone is a free agent all of the time, with no binding obligation to even play a full year. (Think the UNLV QB, which is the...
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If that is tl;dr, the answer is there is no answer. I think the sport is in deep trouble and is going to fail eventually.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
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OT: - NIL and the Transfer Portal...How do you fix it?

Maybe this is a topic that has been posted before, but what is the fix? I don't see NIL itself as the problem, but rather NIL coupled with the transfer portal, where everyone is a free agent all of the time, with no binding obligation to even play a full year. (Think the UNLV QB, which is the...
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If that is tl;dr, the answer is there is no answer. I think the sport is in deep trouble and is going to fail eventually.
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Personally I like the current "no rules" system. The old system was extremely corrupt and tilted toward certain power players, now the landscape has been flattened.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
the-boneyard.com

OT: - NIL and the Transfer Portal...How do you fix it?

Maybe this is a topic that has been posted before, but what is the fix? I don't see NIL itself as the problem, but rather NIL coupled with the transfer portal, where everyone is a free agent all of the time, with no binding obligation to even play a full year. (Think the UNLV QB, which is the...
the-boneyard.com the-boneyard.com

If that is tl;dr, the answer is there is no answer. I think the sport is in deep trouble and is going to fail eventually.
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That was far from being too long to read but there are flaws in your logic:
  • Congressional interference isn't feasible. Beyond the point that our elected officials should have more important things to spend their time on, they haven't been effective in implimenting anything for longer than most can remember.
  • Your contention of what "most fans" would be "interested in" would require fan investment throughout FBS football to be far more balanced than it currently is. The cartel of schools who are (and have been) receiving most of the spots that allow a chance to play for the title exceed home attendance numbers by mid-September that exceeds what more than half of FBS can claim for an entire season. brand names (Southern Cal, Notre Dame, etc.) land larger television audiences in down seasons than most non-P2 schools could ever land.
Your complaint currently is that most of these games are blowouts. I've been following this sport since Jim Plunkett and Archie Manning were playing for Stanford and Ole Miss respectively and in those five and a half decades there have been very few championships that were won with games like Miami-Nebraska in the 1/01/1984 Orange Bowl.

There are going t o be blowouts, it's part of the nature of sports. Hell, in the past two men's NCAA tournaments the eventual champion blew out every team they faced. Should congress have stepped in to make that more fair?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Did you really just post that college football is not about entertaining its viewers? You are aware that the players are not curing disease or inventing a new AI application, they are playing football. The reason there are billions of dollars to split among them is because people are entertained. If it stops being entertaining, a lot of people in the college football industry are going to make a lot less money.
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You highly underestimate the appetite for crappy football of the general public.

If you disagree, please elaborate on the ratings success of Thursday Night Football compared to other televised/streamed entertainment in the same time period. TNF is well-known
 
Whoever invented the sky cast so I don’t have to listen to tessitore deserves a nobel.
 
Another lackluster game right now. Arizona St just being absolutely dominated. I wish we just went back to a 4 team CFP; felt like the games were usually more competitive/interesting overall.

Edit: I come on here to complain and then suddenly Arizona St decides to make things interesting.
 
maple said:
Another lackluster game right now. Arizona St just being absolutely dominated. I wish we just went back to a 4 team CFP; felt like the games were usually more competitive/interesting overall.

Edit: I come on here to complain and then suddenly Arizona St decides to make things interesting.
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Two blatant PI on Texas and ASU can tie
 
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maple said:
Another lackluster game right now. Arizona St just being absolutely dominated. I wish we just went back to a 4 team CFP; felt like the games were usually more competitive/interesting overall.

Edit: I come on here to complain and then suddenly Arizona St decides to make things interesting.
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That was one hell of a post. It turned the game completely around.
 
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Skattebo with that crazy TD pass was easily one of the best plays of the CFP so far.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
That was far from being too long to read but there are flaws in your logic:
  • Congressional interference isn't feasible. Beyond the point that our elected officials should have more important things to spend their time on, they haven't been effective in implimenting anything for longer than most can remember.
  • Your contention of what "most fans" would be "interested in" would require fan investment throughout FBS football to be far more balanced than it currently is. The cartel of schools who are (and have been) receiving most of the spots that allow a chance to play for the title exceed home attendance numbers by mid-September that exceeds what more than half of FBS can claim for an entire season. brand names (Southern Cal, Notre Dame, etc.) land larger television audiences in down seasons than most non-P2 schools could ever land.
Your complaint currently is that most of these games are blowouts. I've been following this sport since Jim Plunkett and Archie Manning were playing for Stanford and Ole Miss respectively and in those five and a half decades there have been very few championships that were won with games like Miami-Nebraska in the 1/01/1984 Orange Bowl.

There are going t o be blowouts, it's part of the nature of sports. Hell, in the past two men's NCAA tournaments the eventual champion blew out every team they faced. Should congress have stepped in to make that more fair?
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All the major sports leagues operate under a legal umbrella protecting them from antitrust claims. College sports needs something similar.

I do not have a rebuttal for the argument by you and @storrsroars that college football can have an unwatchably terrible product and its current fan base will stay with it and even grow. You might be right, and we will probably find out soon.
 
Announcers gave Auburn a helluva buildup as a clutch kicker before he pushed that wide.
 
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