The Big East Tournament is thriving

[zls44]

Only TV matters, watch how the first round doesn't fill arenas. Then Nova fills YOUR arena.

Vermont had double the fans Villanova did.

 

[Zissou]

Vermont had double the fans Villanova did.

Another Flagship university from New England.

The building was full. What more do you want? Concessions?

 

[Dooley]

Vermont had double the fans Villanova did.

(Don't tell him that.) He's having too much fun desperately trying to troll us when nobody here cares about him or Villanova or the Big East.

 

[billybud]

ACC for Nova? Nope.

Villanova does not have the home attendance in football to be a ACC team...or a Div. I team.

They averaged less than 5,000 at Villanova Stadium in 2017...

 

[Zissou]

ACC for Nova? Nope.

Villanova does not have the home attendance in football to be a ACC team...or a Div. I team.

They averaged less than 5,000 at Villanova Stadium in 2017...

Agreed

 

[Zissou]

(Don't tell him that.) He's having too much fun desperately trying to troll us when nobody here cares about him or Villanova or the Big East.

Trolling you? No.

Promoting the Big East as an option for UConn? Yes.

Pushing back against your ridiculous statements? Sure, why not.

 

[Fishy]

Trolling you? No.

Promoting the Big East as an option for UConn? Yes.

Pushing back against your ridiculous statements? Sure, why not.

You absolutely can stop.

I promise you - UConn is not even in the orbit of considering a return to the Big East.

If it ever happens, both of us will be a whole lot older than we are now and it will mean that things have gone very, very poorly for all of the schools involved.

 

[gampelcrazies]

You absolutely can stop.

I promise you - UConn is not even in the orbit of considering a return to the Big East.

If it ever happens, both of us will be a whole lot older than we are now and it will mean that things have gone very, very poorly for all of the schools involved.

I'm a UConn to Big East guy and realize it probably won't happen. But if it were to happen it would probably be in the next few years.

 

[bobbyinaz]

You absolutely can stop.

I promise you - UConn is not even in the orbit of considering a return to the Big East.

If it ever happens, both of us will be a whole lot older than we are now and it will mean that things have gone very, very poorly for all of the schools involved.

Maybe time for a throat punch?

 

[UConn990411]

I'm a UConn to Big East guy and realize it probably won't happen. But if it were to happen it would probably be in the next few years.

Nope - there’s likely going to be another round of conference realignment that takes place in the 2020s, and then the ripple effects will happen for a few years after. Hopefully UConn will land on its feet and in a power conference when that happens, though I’m certainly not holding my breath.

If UConn ever starts seeking a return to the Big East, it probably means they had to drop football along the way.

 

[uconnbaseball]

I've been to Yankee Stadium for baseball of course, and actually a pro football game there, but never been to the Pin Stripe Bowl. I've been to bowls, even though they are a long way from the Big East. Football games at Clemson and Georgia and others in the south. Cameron and the Phog for hoops. Wake, UNC, Clemson, Virginia (old and new), Pitt, GTown, etc. Of course the Palestra. Fenway, XL, the Dunk. South Bend. Happy Valley. US Opens. NBA playoffs. NFL. NHL. November tournament basketball. Nova Championships in Lexington, Houston, and San Antonio. A Final Four in Detroit. Regional NCAAs. I saw UConn beat Nova in Buffalo on the way to UConn's last title. I was at the game in Hartford last year. Etc, etc, etc.

If you have never breathed the air outside the Garden or felt the pulse of a game inside it, I think it's hard for you to get it. UConn fans know. It's hard to go to Memphis when you've lived tournament life in the Mecca.

TBF FedEx Forum is top notch. It is an awesome arena...the problem is that the AAC fanbases will not travel to give it an adequate atmosphere.

 

[Dooley]

Trolling you? No.

Promoting the Big East as an option for UConn? Yes.

Pushing back against your ridiculous statements? Sure, why not.

The only ridiculous statement here is the title of this thread.

The only apocalyptic way UConn will ever play in the Big East again is if the conference decides to welcome back football playing members after some sort of seismic CR shift that expels dozens of football/hoops playing schools into the conference abyss. Since that isn't happening any time soon, you can stop promoting the Big East as any sort of option for UConn.

Feel free to go back to your Villanova boards and promote the Big East for UConn there. Better yet, don't bother. You will save yourself and anyone who might stumble across your posts a whole lotta valuable time.

 

[CL82]

The only ridiculous statement here is the title of this thread.

The only apocalyptic way UConn will ever play in the Big East again is if the conference decides to welcome back football playing members after some sort of seismic CR shift that expels dozens of football/hoops playing schools into the conference abyss. Since that isn't happening any time soon, you can stop promoting the Big East as any sort of option for UConn.

Feel free to go back to your Villanova boards and promote the Big East for UConn there. Better yet, don't bother. You will save yourself and anyone who might stumble across your posts a whole lotta valuable time.

Dang Dooley! Lol. That was harsh. Accurate and funny, but harsh.

 

[Zissou]

The only ridiculous statement here is the title of this thread.

The only apocalyptic way UConn will ever play in the Big East again is if the conference decides to welcome back football playing members after some sort of seismic CR shift that expels dozens of football/hoops playing schools into the conference abyss. Since that isn't happening any time soon, you can stop promoting the Big East as any sort of option for UConn.

Feel free to go back to your Villanova boards and promote the Big East for UConn there. Better yet, don't bother. You will save yourself and anyone who might stumble across your posts a whole lotta valuable time.

"In an NCAA financial statement, UConn reported that total generated revenue from sports last year totaled $40.4 million, while expenses came in at $80.9 million."

If you think UConn just rolls along with the status quo until the next seismic shift in CR, your have your head up your in the sand.

 

[billybud]

yep....so being like Villanova is the answer?

UConn could be small time like Nova and cut the gap some while still losing tens of millions each year?

The aggregate math is pretty simple. Villanova’s intercollegiate athletic expenses exceeded its total revenues, not just the revenue from men’s basketball. Men’s basketball does pay for itself, but not much more than that. The roughly $20 million gap between varsity athletics revenue and expenses is covered by general operating funds, including student fees.

According to the NCAA, which is quite transparent about these financial matters, Villanova’s varsity athletics budget “shortfall” is larger than the median shortfall in the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision (FCS). Villanova’s athletic revenues are very close to the FCS median while its expenses are far higher. Varsity athletics budget shortfalls in the FCS have increased by 87 percent since 2004. In other words, they have almost doubled. Villanova’s increase is close to that amount.

 

[Dooley]

"In an NCAA financial statement, UConn reported that total generated revenue from sports last year totaled $40.4 million, while expenses came in at $80.9 million."

If you think UConn just rolls along with the status quo until the next seismic shift in CR, your have your head up your in the sand.

So your solution to bridging UConn's financial gap would be to pay the $10M-$12M AAC exit fee to leave the conference that pays more money to go to a conference that pays less money. Got it.

Please don't ever get a job as a financial advisor.

 

[Dooley]

Dang Dooley! Lol. That was harsh. Accurate and funny, but harsh.

Sometimes it's just fun to mess with the trolls.

 

[Zissou]

So your solution to bridging UConn's financial gap would be to pay the $10M-$12M AAC exit fee to leave the conference that pays more money to go to a conference that pays less money. Got it.

Please don't ever get a job as a financial advisor.

Keep football in the AAC and take a Navy equivalent paycheck. Take full conference membership to the Big East and take that paycheck. Reduce football costs to the AAC average. Reduce the gap.

 

[billybud]

Keep football in the AAC?

Ridiculous....

Take away UConn's legacy sport from the conference and they will fall all over themselves to "park" football in the otherwise all sports conference (assuming that the media contract doesn't take a hit for the loss of UConn basketball).

Not happening...laughable wool gathering.

 

[Zissou]

The aggregate math is pretty simple. Villanova’s intercollegiate athletic expenses exceeded its total revenues, not just the revenue from men’s basketball. Men’s basketball does pay for itself, but not much more than that. The roughly $20 million gap between varsity athletics revenue and expenses is covered by general operating funds, including student fees.

According to the NCAA, which is quite transparent about these financial matters, Villanova’s varsity athletics budget “shortfall” is larger than the median shortfall in the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision (FCS). Villanova’s athletic revenues are very close to the FCS median while its expenses are far higher. Varsity athletics budget shortfalls in the FCS have increased by 87 percent since 2004. In other words, they have almost doubled. Villanova’s increase is close to that amount.

Noooo. Don't copy Nova's model. FCS football is a disaster.

Villanova operates in the black as an entity and can afford to waste a bit on FCS football. It's a bad model, but Nova can afford to indulge it. Nova is not burning public funds to chase football, it's burning private funds to let football sit in FCS purgatory.

 

[Zissou]

Keep football in the AAC?

Ridiculous....

Take away UConn's legacy sport from the conference and they will fall all over themselves to "park" football in the otherwise all sports conference (assuming that the media contract doesn't take a hit for the loss of UConn basketball).

Not happening...laughable wool gathering.

Not as laughable as Rutgers to the Big 10, yet it happened.

 

[billybud]

Still burning money, be it public or private in origin.

 

[billybud]

Not as laughable as Rutgers to the Big 10, yet it happened.

Jeez Louize....you are thick as a brick...Rutgers was a win-win in terms of money...Rutgers got more...Big Ten got more.

Not laughable at all...

 

[Zissou]

Still burning money, be it public or private in origin.

but less money. tens of millions less.

 

[Dean Wormer]

We have done well in the smaller conference pond, and in the NCAA Ocean. You can dismiss the conference, but the Nattys?

Surely you can’t be this obtuse, right? Why are you here desperately seeking acknowledgement for your basketball conference? I actually like Nova and Jay Wright, so no argument from me over what you guys have done lately. But stop trying to act like CR had nothing to do with it. Nova took advantage of the vacuum. Congrats.
Now run along and enjoy the only time of year when your school is relevant. Bye Felicia!!

 

[Zissou]

Now run along and enjoy the only time of year when your school is relevant.

Interesting stone to be throwing. I think UConn will be good again, but when were you last relevant?

 

[06029]

Interesting stone to be throwing. I think UConn will be good again, but when were you last relevant?

Have a few drinks tonight. It won’t change the result but you might not remember how ugly tonight is for Nova.

 

[zls44]

Thriving!

 

[CoastAtlantic]

I get that you're now a collection of 10 small, private colleges founded by religious orders and need to puff your chests out now and then to avoid being perceived as swamped by large, public schools that sponsor FBS. However, could you please stop acting like you're the new Galactus? You are what you are. Stop pretending to be someone you're not. Your new bell cow has just been put away by mighty Purdue and, no, the NIT doesn't really count these days.

 

[don356]

I get that you're now a collection of 10 small, private colleges founded by religious orders and need to puff your chests out now and then to avoid being perceived as swamped by large, public schools that sponsor FBS. However, could you please stop acting like you're the new Galactus? You are what you are. Stop pretending to be someone you're not. Your new bell cow has just been put away by mighty Purdue and, no, the NIT doesn't really count these days.

+1, the first thing they should do is change the league name...........and hope Nova keeps winning after last night because this thing is trending downward.