You're missing the point that the reason it draws is because it's in the biggest city in the free world, and folks and businesses are looking for something to do. If you hold that tourney in Milwaukee or Omaha it's going to be just like the rest of the tourneys. The fact that it draws well(which it has always done) isn't indicative of the conference being some big bell cow as much as it's in a great location with an absence of bball right now. The tv ratings during the regular season are the reality of the situation.
The Big East Tournament is thriving
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The Big East isn't the same as when UConn, Pitt, and Cuse were in the mix...
Villanova got no respect from the Committee
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How does Marquette get a five seed and Villanova a six? Villanova won the Big East regular-season and tournament titles.
Weird.
Villanova got no respect from the Committee
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How does Marquette get a five seed and Villanova a six? Villanova won the Big East regular-season and tournament titles.
Weird.
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I think that the Committee already had their seedings before Saturday afternoon...
...Villanova wins the Big East - still a 6.
...Marquette loses early and continues their freefall, still a 5.
...Auburn wins the SEC - still a 5.
...FSU beats #1 UVA - & is ACC Tourney runner up..still a 4.
...Michigan State wins the Big 10* - still a 2 AND in Duke’s bracket.
...Cincinnati wins the American - still just a 7.
...Iowa State wins the Big 12 - still just a 6.
...LSU gets upset by the gators - still a 3.
...Purdue loses to Minnesota - still a 3.
Outside of bid stealing and automatic qualifier conferences it’s like this past weekend’s games were never even played.
...Villanova wins the Big East - still a 6.
...Marquette loses early and continues their freefall, still a 5.
...Auburn wins the SEC - still a 5.
...FSU beats #1 UVA - & is ACC Tourney runner up..still a 4.
...Michigan State wins the Big 10* - still a 2 AND in Duke’s bracket.
...Cincinnati wins the American - still just a 7.
...Iowa State wins the Big 12 - still just a 6.
...LSU gets upset by the gators - still a 3.
...Purdue loses to Minnesota - still a 3.
Outside of bid stealing and automatic qualifier conferences it’s like this past weekend’s games were never even played.
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I think they gave Nova a worse seed but a more favorable location / draw. Nova should have probably been a 5, but better to drop to a 6 and stay closer to home.
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Nope. A10 is in NYC an they didn’t draw. 1/2 full for their finals.
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Nova is 103 miles from NYC....and Philly is 93 miles....sure, being close to school, and two major metropolitan areas of alumni support...will give some good attendance....
I read a fan blog that said half the crowd were Nova fans...
But...the Big East isn't the Big East of bygone days...no masses of TV watchers...no excitement of forecasted #1's and #2's matching up.
A nice car trip for fans though.
I read a fan blog that said half the crowd were Nova fans...
But...the Big East isn't the Big East of bygone days...no masses of TV watchers...no excitement of forecasted #1's and #2's matching up.
A nice car trip for fans though.
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I was not thinking of geography...but Seton Hall, Georgetown, Providence, St. John's and Villanova are ringed around NYC....with DC being the furthest.
In terms of propinquinty, it would be like a tourney conducted in Jacksonville for FSU, Florida, and UCF.
In terms of propinquinty, it would be like a tourney conducted in Jacksonville for FSU, Florida, and UCF.
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Fordham? Bonaventure?
What other powerhouse fan bases from A-10 in NYC?
VCU has fans down in Virginia...as does Old Dominium.
For better or worse the AAC tournament is never going to be really well attended outside of games from the host teams. There's just not a lot of teams close enough together. They're trying the next three years in Fort Worth, Texas, but I don't have high hopes for that either. SMU/Houston/Tulane/Tulsa will be within decent driving distances, but everyone is else if plane trip. I went to the tournament and outside of the Memphis games it was #1 Wichita State, #2 Cincinnati, and then just handfuls of everyone else.
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Yeah people bought the Marquette and Creighton gear on the street.
Creighton sends more fans to the Big East tourney than anyone sent to Hartford for the either AAC tourney.
They send more to MSG than like the bottom 8 AAC teams combined.
Does the building help? Sure. But just stop these are programs that have actual fanbases.
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Exactly. It's not just NYC. The Big East is the draw.
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Nova also sold-out San Antonio last year
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It was a blow-out!
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It’s not.
There’s one national program in the conference and that program will live and die with the coach.
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The BET did once have a vibe...it left with Uconn, Pitt, Louisville and Cuse....
Once, in a conference far, far away, Pat Ewing strode the floors for Georgetown...and Syracuse and Uconn vied as kings.
That conference was hit by an asteroid and is now a splintered portion of what it once was.
Maybe Swofford was as crazy as a fox....Where once the Big East filled the air waves of March, one can hear ACC....the echoes of the past still reverberate in the ether but each passing year that echo loses strength..
Once, in a conference far, far away, Pat Ewing strode the floors for Georgetown...and Syracuse and Uconn vied as kings.
That conference was hit by an asteroid and is now a splintered portion of what it once was.
Maybe Swofford was as crazy as a fox....Where once the Big East filled the air waves of March, one can hear ACC....the echoes of the past still reverberate in the ether but each passing year that echo loses strength..
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What did I just read?
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All due respect, but when Uconn, Cuse, Louisville, Pitt, and WVU were in the BET, it was definitely must-see TV. BET Week was an event throughout the NE corridor. The fanbases were rabid, and let's be honest, Nova wasn't exactly ruling the roost like they currently are in the New BE. Comparisons between the 2 leagues, then and now, is frankly non-existent. Enjoy the vacuum that was created when the Big Boyz split up, but don't forget where you came from. Slow your roll.
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The AAC game was on ESPN and drew less than 1.2, for reference.
Regardless of your TV criticisms, the BET is thriving. I think Fox is happy with the success of the tournament, even without the Cuse and UConn fan bases that are so close and used to be active in NY.
It’s already a sold out success without UConn. Adding UConn would only add to the demand and the BET experience.