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Texas & OK ask to join SEC?

I don't see the remaining B12 teams going small to replace two teams. They either add multiple teams and form a much bigger conference or join in unison the AAC. I seriously doubt the ACC wants WV at this point given their snubs in prior years. TV will drive the deal, but combining the two in some format makes sense. Be a good league in both fb and bb.
 
huskymedic said:
6 months… a year… it’s all the same in the end:

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If true that's pretty amazing that it was kept under wraps for that long. These schools leak like a sieve because so many involved are Deep Throat wannabes with legions of wannabe "insiders" ready to share that information with the masses so long as you are willing to subscribe to their blog for $9.99/month. Maybe the pandemic helped as there were less people in the mix and perhaps less casual communications.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Texas and Oklahoma are leaving, just a question of where. Are you saying they shouldn't meet to discuss it? What should they do? Try telepathy? Binge watch Breaking Bad? I am sure they are open to ideas right now.
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The Big 12 forced this now by looking for extensions too early. When they got the no, that is where they needed to go back to UT and Oklahoma and say what do you think and what can we do. The horse is so far out of the barn, they will need telepathy to talk to those 2.
 
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hoopsfan22 said:
I don't think you need to ask "what if," as I think that has been the end game all along. All that's missing is the ability for the big conferences to be able to force out their grandfathered in dead weight schools. Once that's accomplished, the pull-away league basically becomes a pro league unencumbered by the NCAA, and concentrates a lot of wealth into a few dozen or so schools where athletics, primarily football and men's basketball, are paramount. That will essentially be the big reset for college athletics because once the big money schools break away, everyone else can exhale and stop with the athletic arm's race money pit, formulate practical conferences around geography/travel, and have actual student-athletes.
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Consolidation has long seemed likely to me. Not sure whether four is the correct number or not. Might end up with just two or three "power" conferences.
 
hardcorehusky said:
The Big 12 forced this now by looking for extensions too early. When they got the no, that is where they needed to go back to UT and Oklahoma and say what do you think and what can we do. The horse is so far out of the barn, they will need telepathy to talk to those 2.
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I think you have the cause and effect backwards. The reason the extension was turned down was that ESPN knew that Oklahoma and Texas were looking to exit. This is a lot like 2002, when Miami and BCU were looking to stab us in the back while Tranghese was trying to negotiate a new rights agreement. That horse left the barn when someone at Wake told Skip Proesser not to take the Pitt job because the Big East was about to get raided.
 
huskymedic said:
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Every league makes the same mistake in expansion. They decide they are not in imminent danger, so doing nothing seems like a reasonable solution if they can't get the big dog. Then another couple of years pass, and whatever the original problem that made expansion seem like a good idea in the first place (usually over dependence on a single alpha dog member or not enough market reach) come back to bite the league in the butt.

So here the Pac 12, Big 10 and ACC are, clearly subordinate to the SEC, and they are having sadzzz because they didn't get Texas and Oklahoma. And there is a good chance that they do nothing. Any business in the same situation as those three leagues would try to get bigger immediately through acquisition, but not athletic conferences. They have a model that shows that whatever is happening now will continue to infinity, so they don't need to do anything.

Until they get raided.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
UConn burned its football program to the ground and damaged its basketball program by staying in the AAC to collect a few extra exit fee checks. We should have left for the Big East as soon as Louisville got the last life raft to the ACC
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Yeah, so then people could criticize them for throwing in the towel prematurely and get that hypothetical Big Ten invite. Truth is, at the moment in time, it was probably a lose/lose for UConn and its athletic department.
 
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I know its schadenfreude and I should be above it but I love other schools who counted their chickens in these leagues getting screwed the same way UConn got it. The ACC and PAC better not get too comfortable. This could easily got to 32-40 teams in a 2 conference super-league by 2025. I think it will take 10 years longer but I love it, love it, love it.
 
The first surprising development of this round of CR is that 8 leftovers of the Big 12 are still being considered as front runners for being added to another league. It is like there is some kind of branding inertia for these programs that, other than Kansas and maybe TCU, are basically worthless to any other league are still branded as P5 and therefore they are considered credible candidates for the other P4 conferences.

I would not put a single of the remaining Big 12 schools, other than MAYBE Kansas to the Big 10, as the most valuable realistic addition to any conference.

The most valuable available teams to add:

Pac 12 - BYU, Boise
Big 10 - Kansas, UConn
ACC - UConn
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The first surprising development of this round of CR is that 8 leftovers of the Big 12 are still being considered as front runners for being added to another league. It is like there is some kind of branding inertia for these programs that, other than Kansas and maybe TCU, are basically worthless to any other league are still branded as P5 and therefore they are considered credible candidates for the other P4 conferences.

I would not put a single of the remaining Big 12 schools, other than MAYBE Kansas to the Big 10, as the most valuable realistic addition to any conference.

The most valuable available teams to add:

Pac 12 - BYU, Boise
Big 10 - Kansas, UConn
ACC - UConn
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Kansas was going to get left out the last time. I don't see any value add Kansas provides the Big Ten as a standalone. As far as UConn, I don't get how so many on here are pounding their chests. Sure, the Big East is 1000x better than the AAC. But in terms of money, we still would be far better off in the Big Ten or ACC. This will be fascinating to watch. People are debating whats next for the remaining schools in the Big 12. To me, the better question is what happens to Clemson, Ohio State, and USC. What are they thinking watching this?
 
djct1999 said:
Kansas was going to get left out the last time. I don't see any value add Kansas provides the Big Ten as a standalone. As far as UConn, I don't get how so many on here are pounding their chests. Sure, the Big East is 1000x better than the AAC. But in terms of money, we still would be far better off in the Big Ten or ACC. This will be fascinating to watch. People are debating whats next for the remaining schools in the Big 12. To me, the better question is what happens to Clemson, Ohio State, and USC. What are they thinking watching this?
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It may not be the case forever, but currently the Big10 is the richest media deal. They get $55 mil each compared to say 46ish for the SEC. This move likely changes the game but Ohio State will be fine. To me the interesting player in this is Clemson. 10 years ago it was Florida State but programs tend to regress to the conference mean over the long run as coaches retire or are replaced etc. FSU and Miami before them were once the Big Prizes. Clemson really should be looking around to maximize their value. USC has flirted with independent status fairly recently and might well do so again.
 
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That's exactly what I thought and I'm nobody. The remaining Big 12 members are screwed.
 
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Fairfield 1st said:
For Fsake---I logged into my account for the first time in 3 years today, just because CR is heating up again...I swear to God I still feel the PTSD from 8 years ago

Has Tuxedo Yoda checked in on this Texas stuff? I can't believe I just wrote that sentence.....SMDH
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CR board, the Phoenix has risen. Can long discussions of 'Rent' expansion be far behind?
 
John Greene said:
CR board, the Phoenix has risen. Can long discussions of 'Rent' expansion be far behind?
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In two months the boneyard will be filled with posts complaining about HCREs conservative play calling and running draw plays on 3rd and 7, posts complaining about people arriving to The Rent in the 2nd Quarter and the Students leaving in the 3rd Quarter, along with pages of posts about potential conference realignment scenarios.

It is like a 15 year time warp.
 
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