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Assuming that we're going to get two players that we do not currently have, trying to make a living off of other programs' misfortune is not a sound long-term strategy.

The fifth-year players are nice band-aids to cover the failings of the recruiting trail, but it really just kicks the problem down the road by a year.

Fischer has made a living in the top 25 doing this on the west coast.

If UConn can get a traditional 5* and 4* guy each year and then fill it out with transfer, grads, projects and over seas guys, we can do a bit better than SDSU.

Assuming Ollie can coach as well as Fischer.
 
This might be who @RipCity saw on campus...
Yeah, @RipCity, was this the guy?
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Fischer has made a living in the top 25 doing this on the west coast.

If UConn can get a traditional 5* and 4* guy each year and then fill it out with transfer, grads, projects and over seas guys, we can do a bit better than SDSU.

Assuming Ollie can coach as well as Fischer.
And Hoiberg...
 
How about we become better at recruiting high school kids and leave the scrambling to the SDSU and Iowa States of the world?

There's no reason that UConn has to become some sort of spring scavenger.

The occasional scholarship filled here or there - fine. But it's no way to make a living.
 
@Fishy

But Fish, Iowa State's seen back to back 3 seeds with this model and 4 straight tourneys. 6 straight tourneys for SDSU. I get that the bar for us is Calhoun recruiting in his Prime, but there wasn't exactly this model back then either.
 
If Miller/Gibbs/Larrier ends up being what we get this spring, then that's extremely fortuitous. But KO will not get respect until he has what's considered a strong early signing period, i.e. not letting next year's Clarke/Mack/Jones get away.

OMG. How does the man sleep at night without the respect of this Board for not getting recruiting off to strong starts?
 
Assuming that we're going to get two players that we do not currently have, trying to make a living off of other programs' misfortune is not a sound long-term strategy.

The fifth-year players are nice band-aids to cover the failings of the recruiting trail, but it really just kicks the problem down the road by a year.

Hey Id be thrilled to bring in an NBA caliber PG prospect with a burgeoning/growing 6-11 250 PF/C each year followed by transferring fifth year or other transfers who might want new scenery or better roads maps to the NBA. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not sound.
 
How about we become better at recruiting high school kids and leave the scrambling to the SDSU and Iowa States of the world?

There's no reason that UConn has to become some sort of spring scavenger.

The occasional scholarship filled here or there - fine. But it's no way to make a living.
We might have to be a bit creative, obviously we wouldn't employ this strategy if we were in the Big 10 or ACC.
 
Assuming that we're going to get two players that we do not currently have, trying to make a living off of other programs' misfortune is not a sound long-term strategy.

The fifth-year players are nice band-aids to cover the failings of the recruiting trail, but it really just kicks the problem down the road by a year.
I don't disagree with your primary premise that recruiting kids out of high school should be our main focus, but if the conventional wisdom is that Diamond Stone was a one-and-done, I don't see how getting Shonn Miller instead is anything but the same end result as Stone would have been, i.e., a one-year solution.

And I might add, I think Miller is a better fit for us, all things considered.
 
If we get Sterling Gibbs, doesn't that put us at the maximum scholarship allotment? I don't believe we'd have enough scholarships left for next year for both Larrier and Gibbs.
 
How many points do you get to start the game with because you write in the scorebook that your team was recruited in a "sustainable way?" Seriously, get TF out.

I take it you missed the part of my post where I said that it doesn't matter where the players come from in terms of evaluating the roster as a whole.
 
Bad day?

Yes, actually, but not the point. The expectations on KO are absurd. I have no reason to think we're getting Larrier, but if we got our two frosh, Miller and Gibbs for 1 year and Larrier for 3, that's a great class. A few points.

1. You can only grade a class once, when recruiting is done, even putting aside you don't know how they actually play for years. This "strong start" bs is simply internet bulletin board drivel.

2. The days of 4 year players, many of whom will sit on the bench for a few years and then settle in as useful role players, is done. Kids transfer out if they don't think they will be impact players. So there are going to be more and more transfers whether or not they abolish grad transfers.

3. If UK can make a living off one and dones, the thought that you can't usefully employ grad transfers is dumb. If we were to get Gibbs, that will be 4 in 4 years (including Miller) who helped us. When does it stop being a fluke or non-sustainable?

4. I really don't get the angst about the number of recruits that spurned us. Our class is what it is. Other than posters feeling bad about being rejected, it makes no difference to anyone whom we went after and didn't get.
 
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How about we become better at recruiting high school kids and leave the scrambling to the SDSU and Iowa States of the world?

There's no reason that UConn has to become some sort of spring scavenger.

The occasional scholarship filled here or there - fine. But it's no way to make a living.
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Here comes UConn!!!
 
I take it you missed the part of my post where I said that it doesn't matter where the players come from in terms of evaluating the roster as a whole.

You said it didn't matter and then told us, because I used your exact words, why it did matter.
 
How about we become better at recruiting high school kids and leave the scrambling to the SDSU and Iowa States of the world?

There's no reason that UConn has to become some sort of spring scavenger.

The occasional scholarship filled here or there - fine. But it's no way to make a living.

I would rather we get our players that way, but I'll say this: I'll feel a lot better about our recruiting going forward if we fill those last two spots with Gibbs and Larrier. That's five scholarships filled by five good players, three of which are going to be serious impact guys right away. Those wouldn't have been easy battles to win.
 
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