Terrence Samuel Transferring

[JSM1970]

I don't think it's a negative for either party. He wants to go somewhere to start and play 30+ minutes/night, that wasn't going to be UConn. He can take a year off and work on his shooting, handle, etc.

Having a good dude who helped win a title leave the program is not a good thing.

 

[tykurez]

I love that this thread momentarily derailed into a high school superlative fight ... typical Boneyard.

Going to miss TSam and his mug. I saw a bit of Taliek in the kid and wish him well in the future.

 

[Tenspro2002]

Samuel was a great teammate and a valuable contributor in spot minutes during our 2014 title run.

He was, however, an unexpectedly lousy ball-handler who can't shoot, and is understandably being recruited over. He could see the writing on the wall with Adams (who would relegate him to the first guard off the bench) and the recruitment of Gibbs (who would relegate him to the second guard off the bench) and Gilbert (who would replace Gibbs).

It's interesting that Samuel and Facey are in basically the exact same position:
- Came in unheralded, during a period of recruiting purgatory
- Played sparsely freshman year (Samuel more so)
- Handed a starting job sophomore year on a less-than-talented roster
- Played poorly and managed to lose that starting job
- Saw long-term threats at their position in 2015 recruits (Adams, Enoch)
- Saw the staff pursue short-term solutions in order to bury them on the bench in 2015-16 (Gibbs, Miller)

Facey is apparently sticking it out, while Samuel wants no part of it.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Samuel was a great teammate and a valuable contributor in spot minutes during our 2014 title run.

He was, however, an unexpectedly lousy ball-handler who can't shoot, and is understandably being recruited over. He could see the writing on the wall with Adams (who would relegate him to the first guard off the bench) and the recruitment of Gibbs (who would relegate him to the second guard off the bench) and Gilbert (who would replace Gibbs).

It's interesting that Samuel and Facey are in basically the exact same position:
- Came in unheralded, during a period of recruiting purgatory
- Played sparsely freshman year (Samuel more so)
- Handed a starting job sophomore year on a less-than-talented roster
- Played poorly and managed to lose that starting job
- Saw long-term threats at their position in 2015 recruits (Adams, Enoch)
- Saw the staff pursue short-term solutions in order to bury them on the bench in 2015-16 (Gibbs, Miller)

Facey is apparently sticking it out, while Samuel wants no part of it.

In fairness to Samuel, his situation going forward looked different than Facey's. If Gibbs is in, that would mean two guys were brought in at Samuel's position who would leapfrog him on the depth chart from Day 1.

In Facey's case, there's still a pretty good chance that he's no worse than the first big off the bench next year. It's far from a guarantee that Enoch comes in and takes his minutes right away.

 

[Stainmaster]

Facey is a far better player than Samuel. He hit the wall in the middle of the year like nobody else I've seen, but you'd have to be a fool to deny that he's a UCONN-level guy.

 

[CallMeBruce]

Samuel was a great teammate and a valuable contributor in spot minutes during our 2014 title run.

He was, however, an unexpectedly lousy ball-handler who can't shoot, and is understandably being recruited over. He could see the writing on the wall with Adams (who would relegate him to the first guard off the bench) and the recruitment of Gibbs (who would relegate him to the second guard off the bench) and Gilbert (who would replace Gibbs).

It's interesting that Samuel and Facey are in basically the exact same position:
- Came in unheralded, during a period of recruiting purgatory
- Played sparsely freshman year (Samuel more so)
- Handed a starting job sophomore year on a less-than-talented roster
- Played poorly and managed to lose that starting job
- Saw long-term threats at their position in 2015 recruits (Adams, Enoch)
- Saw the staff pursue short-term solutions in order to bury them on the bench in 2015-16 (Gibbs, Miller)

Facey is apparently sticking it out, while Samuel wants no part of it.

Wasn't Facey a top-100 recruit? Also, when was Samuel handed a starting job?

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

there becomes a point in your collegiate career where if you arent a star and believe basketball to be your future, you have to make a decision whether its achievable at the school you are at or do you need to go somewhere else to showcase your skills. At Uconn ur going to get great spotlight but not the amount of minutes you think you deserve, think this was about someone following their heart and wanting to develop, no need to overanalyze

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Samuel was a great teammate and a valuable contributor in spot minutes during our 2014 title run.

He was, however, an unexpectedly lousy ball-handler who can't shoot, and is understandably being recruited over. He could see the writing on the wall with Adams (who would relegate him to the first guard off the bench) and the recruitment of Gibbs (who would relegate him to the second guard off the bench) and Gilbert (who would replace Gibbs).

It's interesting that Samuel and Facey are in basically the exact same position:
- Came in unheralded, during a period of recruiting purgatory
- Played sparsely freshman year (Samuel more so)
- Handed a starting job sophomore year on a less-than-talented roster
- Played poorly and managed to lose that starting job
- Saw long-term threats at their position in 2015 recruits (Adams, Enoch)
- Saw the staff pursue short-term solutions in order to bury them on the bench in 2015-16 (Gibbs, Miller)

Facey is apparently sticking it out, while Samuel wants no part of it.

Maybe Samuel is leaving because of Gibbs ,buts it's also possible Were recruiting Gibbs because Samuel was leaving.

 

[Leebo]

it's also possible Were recruiting Gibbs because Samuel was leaving.

Really? Imagine Samuel said, "I'm here for the long haul. No matter what, I'm staying." We wouldn't be recruiting Gibbs?

I think we were going to recruit Gibbs regardless of what Samuel decided.

 

[BKLYN]

Any word on where TSAM will end up? Guesses?

 

[mauconnfan]

Any word on where TSAM will end up? Guesses?

If he's smart the list will include Fairfield, CCSU, Monmouth, Marist, Manhattan and maybe LaSalle

 

[Chief00]

The Samuel ship had sailed awhile ago.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

The Samuel ship had sailed awhile ago.

Repeat yourself much?

 

[PcketknfNiels]

Lol. I've known Tim for a number of years now and it's clear that he must have hooked up with PcketknfNiels's ex girlfriend in high school. Move on bro, she was too hot for you anyways.

If you want to put a ton of stock into what a kid who is a total clown says then go for it. Definitely needed to be said that the kid typically has zero clue what he's talking about.

 

[tykurez]

If you want to put a ton of stock into what a kid who is a total clown says then go for it. Definitely needed to be said that the kid typically has zero clue what he's talking about.

You seem like a really likable fella.

 

[PcketknfNiels]

You seem like a really likable fella.

Yes, advising to not take a particular person's opinion seriously based on inside info is indeed something a terrible person would do. Damn me for trying to inform.

 

[champs99and04]

Somebody send Tim the link to this thread and then him and Niels can exchange haymakers in front of all of us. That's what the boneyard is for!

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Facey is a far better player than Samuel. He hit the wall in the middle of the year like nobody else I've seen, but you'd have to be a fool to deny that he's a UCONN-level guy.

Luckily, we're pretty well stocked with fools.

 

[willie99]

Samuel was a great teammate and a valuable contributor in spot minutes during our 2014 title run.

He was, however, an unexpectedly lousy ball-handler who can't shoot, and is understandably being recruited over. He could see the writing on the wall with Adams (who would relegate him to the first guard off the bench) and the recruitment of Gibbs (who would relegate him to the second guard off the bench) and Gilbert (who would replace Gibbs).

It's interesting that Samuel and Facey are in basically the exact same position:
- Came in unheralded, during a period of recruiting purgatory
- Played sparsely freshman year (Samuel more so)
- Handed a starting job sophomore year on a less-than-talented roster
- Played poorly and managed to lose that starting job
- Saw long-term threats at their position in 2015 recruits (Adams, Enoch)
- Saw the staff pursue short-term solutions in order to bury them on the bench in 2015-16 (Gibbs, Miller)

Facey is apparently sticking it out, while Samuel wants no part of it.

I thought Facey was a highly regarded 4 star recruit, but I could be mistaken

 

[willie99]

If he's smart the list will include Fairfield, CCSU, Monmouth, Marist, Manhattan and maybe LaSalle

imagine showing up at CCSU with a ring on your finger?

he'll be playing before smaller crowds than the ones watching his summer pickup games

I thought he might choose a notch above for hoops purposes, but academics should be his top priority

 

[Stainmaster]

I thought Facey was a highly regarded 4 star recruit, but I could be mistaken

Revisionist history.

 

[willie99]

Revisionist history.

Facey was a 4 star recruit, TSam a 3 star recruit

thanks for making me have to look it up, and proving my memory ain't so bad after all

 

[Leebo]

Facey was a 4 star recruit, TSam a 3 star recruit

thanks for making me have to look it up, and proving my memory ain't so bad after all

I think he might have been agreeing with you, characterizing the other post as revisionist history, maybe.

Of course it couldn't have been expressed much less clearly, so who knows.

 

[willie99]

I think he might have been agreeing with you, characterizing the other post as revisionist history, maybe.

Of course it couldn't have been expressed much less clearly, so who knows.

then my apologies, looks like I may have interpreted the typed word incorrectly

a lot of that seems to be in the news recently

 

[Stainmaster]

I think he might have been agreeing with you, characterizing the other post as revisionist history, maybe.

Of course it couldn't have been expressed much less clearly, so who knows.

You are correct. I'm in the process of an all-nighter so clarity is not going to be one of my strong suits for the next 12 hours or so.

 

[UChusky916]

Yes, advising to not take a particular person's opinion seriously based on inside info is indeed something a terrible person would do. Damn me for trying to inform.

You're an atrocious poster who brings no value to this board.

Tim is a respected UConn beat writer for the Daily Campus and many more people know him and trust his credibility than you.

Sorry for trying to inform you.

 

[tykurez]

Facey was a 4 star recruit, TSam a 3 star recruit

thanks for making me have to look it up, and proving my memory ain't so bad after all

Facey was also the NY State Gatorade POY ... for what that's worth.

 

[ktuck911]

If he's smart the list will include Fairfield, CCSU, Monmouth, Marist, Manhattan and maybe LaSalle

if he's looking for nice campuses Fairfield and Monmouth would be solid choices along with their bball programs... Hard to beat Monmouth on the Jersey shore.

 

[RipCity]

if he's looking for nice campuses Fairfield and Monmouth would be solid choices along with their bball programs... Hard to beat Monmouth on the Jersey shore.

Monmouth is guido central. Nice campuses are great, but it's just an unbearable place to live if you didn't grow up in Jersey.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I have to think Manhattan is the best fit. It's still a decent program, but it's enough of a step down that he might still be an impact player there.