Tennessee vs. Stanford -- for whom to root?

[Bama fan]

It didn't work as well when I said, "I hope victory is in the Card."

Basketball version of poetic license.

 

[Bama fan]

Certain Irish, I can well imagine...but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't still be gracing the Irish Flag if William III, and the Dutch Orange, which it represents, was the focus of their ire.

For the record, 93% of my DNA is Celtic from the Northwest of Ireland (Donegal) and the Southwest (Cork).

Donegal
The Society of United Irishmen formed in 1791 to combat British control of the Irish Parliament. A “fellowship of freedom,” attracting Catholics and Protestants alike, it eventually totaled about 5 percent of the population. The group led uprisings beginning in May 1798, often armed with little more than pikes and pitchforks and fought until September when they were overwhelmed by loyalist troops. 30,000 Irish died and much of the land was in ruins. Harsh government reprisals afterwards stoked fear and paranoia—public assemblies were banned and the press censored. More than half a million would flee the Emerald Isle over the next four decades. Most settled in Western PA, including my own forebears.

This, of course, occurred not under the Jacobites or Dutch Billy, but under the Hanoverian George's brought in to keep the Jacobites out, and who were a nasty throwback to the kind of rigid authoritarianism that led to the American and French Revolutions the Irish were emulating in 1798.

Cork
The remote regions of Munster, Ireland’s southwestern province—including the western peninsulas of Cork and Kerry and the boggy highlands of Limerick—were the ideal refuge for Irish outlaws who rebelled against their British rulers, which they did frequently. Cork soon came to be known as “the rebel city.” Protected by impassable peat bogs and mountains, these outlaws and their descendants practiced Catholicism freely and preserved a distinct culture of Gaelic language, literature, song, and dance. Dairying was especially prevalent in Munster, and families typically had many children to help with the unending labor such a lifestyle demanded.

My relatives here hung on through most of the Victorian Era, and the starvation of 25% of the population in the famine of 1845-52, when over a million Irish fled the island.

All this is very good . But in the ditty, which I posted initially, the King Billy to whom they are referring is William III. Prince of Orange. That is all there is to it. If you like him, that is good.,and given your heritage, perhaps noble. The guys singing the song were not fond of him, or his colors. Green for Catholics, white for hope of peace, and orange for Protestants. The guy who sang the song apparently did not have much hope! As for the Western Pa. part, my grandfather's very Irish family lived in the Carrick section of Pittsburgh! Small world.

 

[Oldbones]

I hate the color orange for only 1 reason

 

[CL82]

Is this right? Does Stanford play Baylor before Tennessee? Why aren't we talking about that? The Cardinal could lose three in row.

 

[triaddukefan]

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Is this right? Does Stanford play Baylor before Tennessee? Why aren't we talking about that? The Cardinal could lose three in row.

Gosh... the TN-Stanford game is 10 days away...... I was thinking this game was this weekend.

 

[FridaFriend]

Certain Irish, I can well imagine...but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't still be gracing the Irish Flag if William III, and the Dutch Orange, which it represents, was the focus of their ire.

For the record, 93% of my DNA is Celtic from the Northwest of Ireland (Donegal) and the Southwest (Cork).

Donegal
The Society of United Irishmen formed in 1791 to combat British control of the Irish Parliament. A “fellowship of freedom,” attracting Catholics and Protestants alike, it eventually totaled about 5 percent of the population. The group led uprisings beginning in May 1798, often armed with little more than pikes and pitchforks and fought until September when they were overwhelmed by loyalist troops. 30,000 Irish died and much of the land was in ruins. Harsh government reprisals afterwards stoked fear and paranoia—public assemblies were banned and the press censored. More than half a million would flee the Emerald Isle over the next four decades. Most settled in Western PA, including my own forebears.

This, of course, occurred not under the Jacobites or Dutch Billy, but under the Hanoverian George's brought in to keep the Jacobites out, and who were a nasty throwback to the kind of rigid authoritarianism that led to the American and French Revolutions the Irish were emulating in 1798.

Cork
The remote regions of Munster, Ireland’s southwestern province—including the western peninsulas of Cork and Kerry and the boggy highlands of Limerick—were the ideal refuge for Irish outlaws who rebelled against their British rulers, which they did frequently. Cork soon came to be known as “the rebel city.” Protected by impassable peat bogs and mountains, these outlaws and their descendants practiced Catholicism freely and preserved a distinct culture of Gaelic language, literature, song, and dance. Dairying was especially prevalent in Munster, and families typically had many children to help with the unending labor such a lifestyle demanded.

My relatives here hung on through most of the Victorian Era, and the starvation of 25% of the population in the famine of 1845-52, when over a million Irish fled the island.

Thank you for writing about this. I have a friend who is a dairy farmer outside Cork. I also have relatives who live in Dublin. They have a cottage on Fennell's Bay near Cork. You reminded me of our wonderful talks about the history of the area around Cork. They told some stories about help, in the area of Cork, to the Spanish Armada, something that made Queen Elizabeth I very unhappy with them. I wonder if you know anything about the truth of the stories.

 

[HuskyNan]

And that ain't makeup for the movie.

He was good in Gladiator

 

[meyers7]

He was good in GladiatorView attachment 37239

We liked him in Sons of Anarchy

 

[OneTrickPony]

He was good in GladiatorView attachment 37239

Also good in the Peeky Blinders!

 

[OneTrickPony]

Thank you for writing about this. I have a friend who is a dairy farmer outside Cork. I also have relatives who live in Dublin. They have a cottage on Fennell's Bay near Cork. You reminded me of our wonderful talks about the history of the area around Cork. They told some stories about help, in the area of Cork, to the Spanish Armada, something that made Queen Elizabeth I very unhappy with them. I wonder if you know anything about the truth of the stories.

No stories yet, but plenty of the dark-haired blue-eyed devils in the family...