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Carnac
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Maybe Liv's best stat of the day: only 1 personal foul.....
For sure.
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Liv has played well the first 3 games - debatable if UConn would have won without her. Point is not to push (i.e. foul) but be able to hold her position on offense and defense as will be needed against tougher competition. 3 games against relatively short, poor rebounding competition not getting her ready for Top 10 players.
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Aubrey is the best 6th player off the bench but right now she doesn’t see the floor. She will, however, add a needed spark coming in off the bench, our Tasmanian devil. Anna, playing 15-20 minutes less that the four horses manages to lead team in assists. Assists means plays will work, assists help team play as one. And her assists weren’t just finding the open player, in some cases they created the open player, things of beauty. I don’t talk much about core four, just admire.
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I made that observation this summer. The 10 rebounds will be easier than the 10 points which she’s not having a problem getting, because they’re feeding her in the paint which translates to lots of touches and opportunities to score.
She can make 5 points in each half playing starters minutes.
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I beg to differ. Cal’s starting center is 6’7”. The Golden Bears also played another 6’4” F/C as a backup or alongside their starting center. Vanderbilt starts an experienced and talented 6’5” Center and a pretty good 6’2” PF. In today’s game Temple subbed in and out 3 frontcourt players who went 6’4”, 6’3” & 6’2”.
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Overall the play was the best so far this season—though it’s only been three games. Anna’s assists totals so far have been wonderful. Her shot will fall. I’m just hoping that when it does she still drives into the lane and that she also starts taking some of those as shots for herself rather than just passing out of it. Still she’s a smart player with a passing mentality which is good. The two best things today were seeing UConn hit 3s and Kyla getting some minutes and scoring. Gotta love the cutaways to her mom cheering for her daughter like Kyla just hit a buzzer beater to win the championship. I hope this game gave her some confidence and a bit of a push to try to get into the rotation even if it’s just for 2-3 minutes at a time when someone needs a break.
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Liv does not make the schedule. She has to play against whoever is on the opposing team. Was the coaching staff supposed to sit her until they played a team with a player her size or taller? It is hard to see why anyone would down play her contributions so far. She is averaging a double double. Also, see oldude's post above.
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Movement on the Half Court offensive end and energy was drastically improved. Mia Davis is a baller for the Owls she is Tough ability to make highly contested shots is incredible. Megan has the skills and athleticism equal to Mia if she played with more of an edge like Mia teams would struggle against us as focusing on Megan would give additional open looks for the other players...Megan is so much improved I believe this is the direction and role she is looking to grow into as a player this year...Very pleased for her...
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Those are open shots she is taking; no hoisting going on. The same thing happened to Lou at the beginning of her Freshman year. Try traveling 6000 miles, taking college courses in your second language and starting on a team with 10000 people in the gym! You might miss a few as well.
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Who has more double-doubles this season, Sabrina Ionescu or Olivia Nelson-Ododa?
Olivia! She has 3 in 3 games. Sabrina has 2 in 3 games, one of which was a triple-double.
Olivia! She has 3 in 3 games. Sabrina has 2 in 3 games, one of which was a triple-double.
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Oh, for sure.
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Nelson-Ododa helps No. 4 UConn rout Temple 83-54
Geno Auriemma knows his team is a work in progress, likening it to a jazz band. On Sunday, the fourth-ranked Huskies were in tune for most of the game in an 83-54 win over Temple. The Huskies continued to struggle at times on offense, but they were fewer than in the first two games of the season.
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Oh, for sure.
Nelson-Ododa helps No. 4 UConn rout Temple 83-54
Geno Auriemma knows his team is a work in progress, likening it to a jazz band. On Sunday, the fourth-ranked Huskies were in tune for most of the game in an 83-54 win over Temple. The Huskies continued to struggle at times on offense, but they were fewer than in the first two games of the season.
But no mention of our attacking mythical Griffin swooping in
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One personal foul shows more than being a "bit fortunate".
I ask isn't it time to change that tired narrative from last year regarding Liv's "tomahawk" blocking style.
Her technique has improved, as evidenced by the multiple clean blocks in three games, so how about leaving out the "buts" and moving on?
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Have to disagree. Liv is not that type of player. One, she does not have the body to "bull" her way under the basket. Two, the style you suggest will quickly get her in foul trouble.
Her fade jumper in the low post is a fine move that is almost impossible to defend. She is also showing a shooting touch with the foul line jumper. That in it self will open up underneath for her. She can handle the ball well enough to be able to drive the lane.
I think she will eventually develop a hook shot to go with her low post turn.
Liv is still a work in progress. Remember, it took Tina Charles well into her junior season before she exploded as a post player. It took Big Mama Stef two seasons to fully develop her game. We are seeing the beginning of Liv's evolution as a major post player.
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not a dilemma to have 2 players who are able to impact the game in different ways. doesn't matter who starts. they'll both play plenty.
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I had no idea my "I would like to see Aubrey start" comment would be met with so much criticism (not from you). Your response was classy and respectful as always. I was referring to the number of folks that agreed with your response. I realize that I'm in the minority on this thought. There is only a few here that agree with me on this.
The reasoning behind my comment was I'm wondering how much longer Geno can afford to have Anna on the floor if she's not scoring? I'm NOT hating on Anna. I'm a huge fan of hers, and believe as others do that at some point, her shots will begin to fall. The question is when, and at what percentage? I can't argue with your logic in this matter. But I didn't think about the "spark" off the bench Aubrey provides. Simply the production. Spark and energy is nice, but they don't win games, points and rebounds do.
Right now, Geno is splitting that 5th starter spot (time) between the two of them. All I'm suggesting is perhaps let Aubrey begin a game or two, then bring Anna in at the 4 minute mark of the 1st quarter, and let her play the first 4 -5 minutes of the 2nd quarter, then bring Aubrey back in. Change things up a bit until Anna's shot arrives.
I completely understand and agree Aubrey is still trying to figure things out, and will be for the better part of the season. But until Anna finds her shot, I'm wondering how long Geno can afford to keep her out there?
I'm thinking that in every game, one of them is going to play better that night than the other one. I would want to know early on, which one it is. I'm just thinking out loud here. Remember, I said I'd LIKE to see her start, not that I think she SHOULD start. There's a difference.
RIGHT NOW, I'm simply more impressed with Aubrey's play to date than Anna's, but I love them both. Sure, Anna has done some good things, but so has Aubrey. Whenever Anna finds her shot, I'll withdraw my concern. If you remember, I correctly predicted this summer that Anna would be the 5th starter...................................assuming all things being equal.
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after such a long and detailed analysis, there can only be one correct response.
Disagree.
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after such a long and detailed analysis, there can only be one correct response.
Disagree.
As I said, I understand the view points of others on this. I'm sure there are many others that share your viewpoint on this. I'm simply interested in getting more production from that 5th starter's spot. If Kayla could come in and produce in that spot, great. Question: how long do you think Geno will continue to start her if her shot is not falling? I don't mind the disagreement, but explain why. Maybe you can help me see something I'm missing.
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As both Aubrey & Anna continue to improve, quite rapidly I suspect, this should be a win-win for UConn. I actually think Geno will end up with a 4-player rotation for the traditional 2,3 & 4 spots utilizing Megan, Christyn, Anna & Aubrey. That’s plenty of PT for everyone. It also allows for Christyn to play a little pg to give Crystal a break, although I think Geno would really prefer that Molly be able to provide 5-10 mpg as Crystal’s backup.
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It clearly depends on if she is doing all the other stuff to help the team. If it starts to get in the way of the other stuff or it is happening in practice, that is different. On the other hand, I think Geno should try to help her get off the snide by setting up some plays that have her shooting from the foul line like the quick little post screens into the middle that Lou used to feast on. Those shots have a nice tendency to be helped by backboard bounces etc.
Hope the question becomes moot.
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The offense seems to run better while Mak is in the game as opposed to Griff.
And from reports, Geno knows/thinks Mak can shoot lights out.
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He did play them together some when the Temple game was still competitive. As they both get more comfortable with the system, I strongly suspect we will see more of the two of them in the game at the same time.
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That is correct, but playing devil’s advocate, UConn put the game away in the 4th qtr with Aubrey on the floor outscoring Temple 26-9.
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Actually closer games (for now) might end up being a blessing when we start playing better teams because it's obvious that slowly but surely the team is starting to gel as a unit .... as has been mentioned numerous times, Ania and Aubrey are only going to improve and become substantially better offensively than they presently are, particularly Ania once her shot starts dropping ... that alone spells great things for the Huskies .... I think that by January, you are going to see the team playing very cohesively and confidently and becoming a pretty scary team for anyone come late February and beyond ..... these little steps are all so very positiveI'm sure there will be griping (wouldn't be the boneyard without it) but there was definite improvement in the team. Yes, there is still some inconsistency but the curve is going upward without any backsliding. And, the bench squared their previous output +2 today.
I don't think the bench will score 324 points next game, but 36 would be nice. If they can, however, consistently contribute 20 points a game (and give the starters some rest at the end of quarters) they should be ok. The fourth quarter was encouraging!
This is not likely to be a year of multiple thirty and forty point blow outs but as long as they can grind games out it should be a good year.
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You brought up something that some Boneyarders might not truly fathom .... Ania is in a completely different culture day in and day out than she has ever lived in, thousands of miles from home and a few games into a season with a completely new team .... it seems like she's adapting quite well but it is still a vastly different world than she's lived before ... she obviously has talent and skills and I think that it'll be sooner rather than later that you'll see her shots drop and her game get even stronger ....
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Ania had seven assists yesterday so you obviously know that means her passes led directly to 14 or more points ... that is scoring .... whether she scores or directly helps others score, it's pretty much the same thing .... I know that assumes that player B would not have made the assist that contributes to a score but I've heard how Ania's passing is benefiting in getting other team members involved, which obviously is a big plus .... I think we have a case of apples and oranges and both players are contributing quite well
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