Temple Post Game Thread

[ddent68]

I dont get why people have to always validate their opinions. Things change, we get more information.

Example? Me. Daniel Jones. At his ceiling he is an average nfl starter. That isn’t good enough. I am not gonna crow now that he has played above expectation. I defended Jones relentlessly.

At QB, Fagnano has a better arm, that is undeniable.

He isn’t a run threat, and is somewhat immobile at this level.

The one thing he has over Evers is

1. Experience - that matters
2. Arm strength

Here is thing, he is an erratic thrower and lacks touch. He isn’t a very efficient passer and I think the coaches want to run a more efficient offense of short and intermediate passes and RPOs and zone read.

We can’t allow Fagnano’s Merrimack game to sway the results here.

Evers, if he is healthy, allows the playbook to open up. I just don’t think they have the same playbook with Fagnano at QB.

That said, Evers has to show he can make explosive plays in passing game. That is something he hasn’t show much of. Fagnano has.

Who starts? Evers more potential. Fagnano more experienced.

They are 4-2 at halfway point. They will figure it out .

Re reading my post it’s a little unclear and I’m not sure what you thought I was trying to validate but I was referring to Evers. He hasn’t proven he can pass. I get that and I agree with most of what people are saying about Fagnano. All that being said Evers should start.

 

[Woof 101]

UConn did not deserve to win. The guy who recovered the fumble and ran for a game-ending touchdown should be criticized by Mora. Jump on the fumble, game over. Risking the fumble-return could result in a further fumble to be returned for a Temple win.

That was a selfish look-at-me move. Team first, please.

First thank you for your service. While I agree with most and like your posts, this one I disagree with. First not sure why UConn did not deserve to win the game? They may have not been great but made the plays to get it done.

As to the selfish look-at-me touchdown I get your point but do try to understand the world we are in. That and a defensive players who want tackles a sack, interception, or a fumble recovery is their goal. To score is their life long memory. What you say is true but he was in no way in danger of fumbling the ball. See post #360 for his explanation.

Although already on our feet he kept us there longer in exuberance. Frosting on a bland cake of a game.

 

[RSTuthill]

From my limited medical knowledge, I thought it was hyperextension as well.

That is not good. The ACL may be at risk. Just guessing with little medical knowledge, but it could be as long as a month or the rest of the season.

 

[storrsroars]

From my limited medical knowledge, I thought it was hyperextension as well.

lol, thanks for the passive correction. Just realized reading your comment that I blamed high blood pressure. Damned autofill.

 

[huskymedic]

That is not good. The ACL may be at risk. Just guessing with little medical knowledge, but it could be as long as a month or the rest of the season.

I’m just guessing but I’d lean more towards the ankle/high ankle since the air cast in the picture is completely below the knee?

 

[AllHusky]

I’m just guessing but I’d lean more towards the ankle/high ankle since the air cast in the picture is completely below the knee?

Looked like toe caught and stuck while he was being dragged down. Lucky the ankle didn’t snap, but all those tendons and ligaments. Ouch
Bet his quad didn’t feel great either

 

[RSTuthill]

I’m just guessing but I’d lean more towards the ankle/high ankle since the air cast in the picture is completely below the knee?

Sure, I did not see the pic. But high ankle sprains can be devastating too. Crossed fingers.

 

[KryHavok]

I was also impressed by John Neider on his coverage on special teams.

I wonder with Tucker McDonald going out, does Mora have Neider take some snaps during practice. Neider played QB at Jonathan Law and got them into the playoffs his senior year (after they beat the snot out of cross-town rival Foran on Thanksgiving, yeah Lawmen!). Would love to see some options for him at QB realizing his role at UConn isn't what he was used to, but it's good to have options.

 

[Purple Stein]

We can’t allow Fagnano’s Merrimack game to sway the results here.

Fagnano completed 60% for 270 yesterday. Evers has completed 50% for 347 for the season.

The conversation has nothing to do with the Merrimack game.

 

[AllHusky]

We better be looking hard for a portal QB. Welliver still an unknown, Mac Donald should have jumped over Fagnano, and Evers does not look like "IT" for a variety of reasons. Praying for Welliver to be IT, and hoping we max his reps while preserving his Redshirt(why preserve a redshirt in the Portal age, I don't know. You are just doing his "next" team a favor). For now, lets hope Joey Cojones shows up on Saturdays, not little Joey F.

 

[ZooCougar]

McDonald came up limping during a series in the Buffalo game… not sure if he further exacerbated it in practice leading up to Temple or just from the Buffalo game.

Bob Joyce mentioned he was out for year w/ foot injury during the pre-game radio show.

get rid of that slippery white plastic apron thing that we have on the sidelines.

 

[ZooCougar]

Fagnano completed 60% for 270 yesterday. Evers has completed 50% for 347 for the season.

The conversation has nothing to do with the Merrimack game.

Facts

 

[noeynox]

Fagnano completed 60% for 270 yesterday. Evers has completed 50% for 347 for the season.

The conversation has nothing to do with the Merrimack game.

I think in 20 more pass attempts he has like 650 more yards. If you have weapons like Sheffield and Bell on the outside, YOU HAVE to be able to get them the ball and do so in a way that lets them do something after the catch. Right now 1 guy has shown he could do this better.

That said Evers makes the run game more dangerous and the coaches look loke they're going to roll with him.

 

[AllHusky]

Still would like to use both QB's when they are both available, and not necessarily in their obvious roles. Obviously Fagnano for pass game and Evers for run game, but calling plays for both of them do the opposite to mix it up and keep the Defense on their toes.

Is this the FB equivalent of "Double Bigs".

 

[UConn Dan]

I’m just guessing but I’d lean more towards the ankle/high ankle since the air cast in the picture is completely below the knee?

As a fellow boneyard "doctor" I concur

 

[ctbro1999]

I think I just give credit to Temple's defense. They came prepared for the run.

They have a couple of solid LBs which wreaked havoc on us. Gotta tip your cap to them.

 

[noeynox]

Still would like to use both QB's when they are both available, and not necessarily in their obvious roles. Obviously Fagnano for pass game and Evers for run game, but calling plays for both of them do the opposite to mix it up and keep the Defense on their toes.

Is this the FB equivalent of "Double Bigs".

Read my mind. I would like to see exactly this. I think the "if you have 2qbs, you have none" school of thought is really outdated. Im old enough to remember Michigan trotting out Griese and Brady and then Brady and Henson. Not saying either one of these guys is close to those guys, but it can work, i think more so when their strengths are so different.

 

[HCCForever]

get rid of that slippery white plastic apron thing that we have on the sidelines.

My thoughts exactly. You see players in both college and NFL slip on that all the time. There should be a better surface to avoid injuries.

 

[ScottVib]

If Fagnano starts, perhaps you do more two back sets to restore the uncertainty that Evers brings to aid the running game. Put Edwards and Robinson in the backfield run your zone read with a quick pitch to the other back as your equivalent of the QB pulling the ball. If you’re throwing you’ve got an extra back in the backfield to hopefully help keep Fagnano comfortable in the pocket. Instead of 11 personnel you go 21 or 20 depending on if you want to use the TE.

 

[RSTuthill]

Under HCPP Nebrich would come in and set up in the gun and everyone in the house knew it was gonna be a wildcat keeper. (The one time it wasn't he missed a wide open receiver with no DB within 30 yards.) Somehow these things need to be disguised well.

 

[gioff2323]

Under HCPP Nebrich would come in and set up in the gun and everyone in the house knew it was gonna be a wildcat keeper. (The one time it wasn't he missed a wide open receiver with no DB within 30 yards.) Somehow these things need to be disguised well.

Wait, nebrich was the single greatest qb in UConn history. Maybe Lagow, but most here kneel at the Nebrich statute on way in to stadium.

 

[UConnJim]

Fagnano completed 60% for 270 yesterday. Evers has completed 50% for 347 for the season.

The conversation has nothing to do with the Merrimack game.

I use PFF stats to get their independent view of the players.

The highest rated UConn QB for passing in a game was Evers vs FAU at 77.4. The lowest rated QB for passing was Evers vs Duke at 55.5. Fagnano has been more consistent with a low of 62.4 vs Temple and a high of 72.6 vs. Merrimack and he was 67.0 vs Buffalo. For the season, Fagnano is rated 64.3 as a passer and Evers is rated 63.4. What I think (hope?) this says is that Fagnano is what he is, an average FBS QB with experience and Evers is less experienced with more potential upside.

One important takeaway is that QB play has improved over the past few years and here are the PFF passing grades for the QB who played the most by season:

2024: Fagnano 64.3/Evers 63.4
2023: Roberson 65.2
2022: Turner 46.0
2021: Zergiotis 37.5
2019: Zergiotis 45.2
2018: Pindell 61.2
2017: Shirreffs 70.0
2016: Shirreffs 62.5
2015: Shirreffs 57.5
2014: Whitmer 59.7

 

[UConnDan97]

I use PFF stats to get their independent view of the players.

The highest rated UConn QB for passing in a game was Evers vs FAU at 77.4. The lowest rated QB for passing was Evers vs Duke at 55.5. Fagnano has been more consistent with a low of 62.4 vs Temple and a high of 72.6 vs. Merrimack and he was 67.0 vs Buffalo. For the season, Fagnano is rated 64.3 as a passer and Evers is rated 63.4. What I think (hope?) this says is that Fagnano is what he is, an average FBS QB with experience and Evers is less experienced with more potential upside.

One important takeaway is that QB play has improved over the past few years and here are the PFF passing grades for the QB who played the most by season:

2024: Fagnano 64.3/Evers 63.4
2023: Roberson 65.2
2022: Turner 46.0
2021: Zergiotis 37.5
2019: Zergiotis 45.2
2018: Pindell 61.2
2017: Shirreffs 70.0
2016: Shirreffs 62.5
2015: Shirreffs 57.5
2014: Whitmer 59.7

I'm glad you posted those QB ratings because they don't match what I saw on ESPNs player profile site. I trust your findings. What site are you using?

 

[UConnJim]

I'm glad you posted those QB ratings because they don't match what I saw on ESPNs player profile site. I trust your findings. What site are you using?

PFF, Pro Football Focus. Most of the stats I am using are Premium Stats. PFF grades every player on every play on a range of +2 to -2 with the actual outcome of a play not influencing the grade. For example, two bad throws with one intercepted and the other dropped for an interception would be graded the same even though the stats would be different.

How PFF grades quarterback play

 

[How Sway?!]

Any idea what the ratings have been for our games at CBSSN? Have not been able to find them online