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whaler11

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I agree with this post 100%. Spot on.
I know a young fella just got hired programming making 90k - 1.5 semesters in college. The place that hired him doesn't care too much about paper credentials. They make sure you can program, then they hire you as a contractor for 6 months to a year for 30 an hour. If you do the job and fit in, you get hired on for 90. They are doing quite well with that model.

If I wanted to hire computer programmers the last place I’d look is a college.

I don’t really much need them to appreciate Vivaldi or Chaucer.

I want the kid who hasn’t gotten out of his chair since 8th grade and can hack into any system ever built for fun.
 

UConnDan97

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If I wanted to hire computer programmers the last place I’d look is a college.

I don’t really much need them to appreciate Vivaldi or Chaucer.

I want the kid who hasn’t gotten out of his chair since 8th grade and can hack into any system ever built for fun.

Well, you had better make that kid's contract incentive-based, because he won't show up on Day 2 for the same reasons he didn't show up to school... ;)
 

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Well, you had better make that kid's contract incentive-based, because he won't show up on Day 2 for the same reasons he didn't show up to school... ;)

Hey, if he wants to work from home, by all means, save me the costs associated with on premises employment.
 

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Those required courses we all hated to take are designed to expose you to areas you would avoid if left to your own choices. The objective is to be enriching and round you out intellectually.
If you went to a Catholic college as I did they steal your easy electives and fill them with philosophy and theology courses which are generally difficult.
I see their point but I don't remember a damn thing about my metaphysics course.

I know the theory.

I also know I can learn more about art history by buying a $200 chromebook and plugging it into the internet.
 

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Now's not the time @whaler11 , but I strongly disagree with you on the value of a quality liberal arts education and a college student's ability to approximate it through self-study on the internet.

Maybe we can debate it between sets of Auggie's not Dead band on 4/7.
 
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Honestly, Warde was simply an ok hire. But the instincts were correct. She went and got a well reguarded guy with a football background. ...
IIRC, another reason cited for Manuel's hiring was an athletic dept or hoops' program academic clean up under his watch at Buffalo. Other things went pear shaped during his UConn tenure, but he may deserve some credit along with other individuals for minimally enabling PR improvements post-UConn hoops' APR issues. The latter significantly caused by transfers and NBA careers in addition to a few players and possibly coaches and advisors dropping the academic ball.
 
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No. It's an indicator that I allow this board to suck too much time out of my life. I change the password so I can't log on, then I take a break. Longest break was about 6 months, IIRC. Harder habit to break than nicotine, and that was very tough.
I'll take your word for it on this response, but it leads me to curiosity about your prior names/handles/identities. Can you (or somebody else keeping score at home) help me out here?
 

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I thought only people from the South were willing to compromise academics for athletic success... I guess not.

You should feel embarrassed to even say such a thing.
He absolutely should, well other than he didn't say that. Reread his post and try again.

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Its funny how quick people are able to criticize the hiring of Diaco and Ollie. Playing monday morning quaterback is easy. If I recall, at the time of both hires, most were excited. Only after the fact are people willing to criticize. I don't judge people on making mistakes, I judge them on how they act afterwards. In any case, my contention is Warde Manuel would not have been as proactive as AD DB was.

Warde Manuel is most responsible for the mess the past few years, and Herbst aided and abetted him.
He hired Diaco, a safe hire because he had been named D Coord. of the Year. He had never been a Head Coach, knew nothing about how to run a program, and Manuel should have sought advice on a rising young coach to hire. You know, like the guys who went to UCF, Memphis, Houston, Temple and others. Manuel had lots of time to get recommendations on a new hire and blew it. Plus, Diaco's "used car salesman" routine at his introductory press conference was all we needed to see something was not going to turn out well.
Then, to compound it, Manuel negotiated a contract with Ollie with an unheard of provision, a fully guaranteed five year contract, rather than the customary lesser amount or lesser number of years. Benedict foolishly signed it and thus also bears a great deal of responsibility for the current financial mess.
 
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I care only because I want UConn to be well thought of. I don’t want it to be a place about which people say... “0h, you went to UConn” with the implied “I’m sorry”. I want to be proud of it. I wouldn’t be proud of going to Memphis or Louisville no matter what their sports teams do.

But all of that misses the point. The President’s job is to care about academics, and research and money and marketing and everything else. Athletics is, a portion of the marketing. Nothing more. It keeps alumni engaged and can be attractive to some prospective students. It also helps get your name out. But the President doesn’t and shouldn’t focus much of her attention on it.

Not sure I agree about Herbst. It seems she and Manuel were either asleep at the switch when the Louisville and Rutgers moves were being made, or possibly were just so inexperienced that they didn't know what to do. Either way, two teams (especially Rutgers) made moves that have saved them financially while UConn wallows in a morass of declining revenues and higher costs.
 
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The whole higher ed complex is a giant bubble.

The cost/value ratio is competely out of whack.

Few schools and majors actually prepare people for careers.

With AR and VR technology coming quickly. you don’t have to spend 40k a year to live on some campus to have an arrogant egghead tell you about art history.

Think about half the garbage they make students take. Sit here with 100 kids with a TA who makes $6 an hour to memorize some crap for a test you can safely forget 20 minutes later.

The space, the admins, the bloated salaries, the crashing state subsidies.... you are going to be able to learn more, faster at a fraction of the cost.

I don’t know how fast it’s going to happen, but schools that are investing huge dollars in physical buildings and spending at three times the rate of inflation are headed for a very painful fall off the cliff.

That’s why they already are so dependant on international students. When that doesn’t sate their need to spend going forward good luck finding the next customers to bleed dry.

It’s going to be a spectacular crash in places like Connecticut. Upside down demos combined with a death spiral state budget that is going to force the wealthy to vote with their feet.

If Herbst was doing something for the state and school she’d be solving for how to make it an institution that can sustain not just begging for the maximum amount of money to feed to useless administrators.

Excellent points about the physical plant.
 

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Those required courses we all hated to take are designed to expose you to areas you would avoid if left to your own choices. The objective is to be enriching and round you out intellectually.
If you went to a Catholic college as I did they steal your easy electives and fill them with philosophy and theology courses which are generally difficult.
I see their point but I don't remember a damn thing about my metaphysics course.

I understand that objective. Now think about the climate at most colleges, where nothing can be debated? Everyting offends someone. Trigger words and gender neutral pronouns. Speakers shouted down. Universities have become anti-intellectual.

You add that to the high cost and it becomes harder and harder to justify. I honestly think the main thing kids learn now is some minor degree of self sufficiency. Unless they have a more vocational field of study. I’ve got three more years until my daughter graduates HS and the whole college choice and major selection issue concerns me.
 

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Plus, Diaco's "used car salesman" routine at his introductory press conference was all we needed to see something was not going to turn out well.

It’s like a baby trying to lift the coffee table.
 
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The only defense of the Ollie hire - and I'm super glad it's available to his defenders - is that he won** a national championship. That's it. That's the only defense.


**With Calhoun's guys, trained under Calhoun, with Calhoun and Miller still in the picture.

You seem to forget that he held the team together for a year while being banned from the tournament. And wasn't he on a trial 9 month contract at first. The way the team played in year 1 earned him that extension and then they backed it up with a championship in year 2. Those first two years your argument doesn't hold water.
 
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You seem to forget that he held the team together for a year role being banned from the tournament. And wasn't he on a trial 9 month contract at first. The way the team played in year 1 earned him that extension and then they backed it up with a championship in year 2. Those first two years your argument doesn't hold water.
After we knocked off MSU in Germany, with the players all mobbing KO on camera, I thought we had struck gold.
 
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After we knocked off MSU in Germany, with the players all mobbing KO on camera, I thought we had struck gold.
As fans, it’s hard to see the line between a coach and a buddy gets crossed.

But in hindsight, it seems that’s what was going on all along. Bazz and co. carried KO, super friendly multi-year assistant thrust in the role of leader of a top-flight program, and were happy to make him successful. Sure the team was mostly kept together through the ban year, but that could be each individual’s pride in themselves, their team mates, and/or UConn as much as or more than KO.

Now I wonder a bit what the talk between retiring JC and heir apparent KO was like. I wonder if KO genuinely felt ready for his legendary role model to put him in the position he held for the last 6 years. I wonder if a feeling of being thrust in to said position had anything to do with the decline in their relationship.

Probably just inventing stuff in my head though
 
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Everyone should chill and see what happens. Hopefully the best will happen for us fans that have had a miserable last few years. But i was not a fan of hiring Ollie. I wanted Brad or Shaka. But jump jumped on the Ollie bandwagon after his first two years "only" of great work.

Praying Dan is the answer. Not sold on Randy coming back yet.
 
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Yesterday’s introductory press conference was an incredibly important moment. Listening to Hurley was the final proof that when it comes to UConn’s future we now have an incredibly able athletic department team in place. It’s taken some time and we’ve suffered through some abysmal lows but this outstanding leadership group led by Susan Herbst now gives us a fighting chance to lift the Huskies up to the level we must achieve if we ever hope to enjoy the fruits of a P-5 invite.
Given who made up this trio over the past few years, how incredible is that these are the folks in charge of our destiny.
David Benedict
Randy Edsall
Dan Hurley
.....instead of these guys:
Warde Manuel
Bob Diaco
Kevin Ollie
I challenge you not to smile. And with Geno Auriemma, Jim Penders, Nancy Stevens, Mike Cavanaugh, Ray Reid, etal already in place, optimism should reign once again in Storrs!
Well, you challenged people not to smile, and this parade of bloviators, know-it-alls, contrarians, tough guys, malcontents, naysayers have taken one for Team UConn.
Party on...
 

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Well, you challenged people not to smile, and this parade of bloviators, know-it-alls, contrarians, tough guys, malcontents, naysayers have taken one for Team UConn.
Party on...

Please. Nostical has written volumes of similar nonsense that has been proven wrong 100 times over.

He has hundreds of posts leg humping Bob Diaco - a coach so bad he has put the entire program’s existance at risk.

You could generate almost unlimited funds just fading whatever he claims will happen. He is 0 for a billion. If he tells you to be excited history would tell us disaster lies ahead.

If you just want to read mindless drivel celebrating how great everything is in spite of the evidence then go ahead and bang on that ignore button. Otherwise maybe try to make an actual on topic argument rather than making the same post over and over.
 
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