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Just got off a 30 minute phone call with parents where 2 of the minutes were on topic to why a phone call was needed while the other 28 minutes were about general anger/disapproval to the school that had is almost entirely out of my hands (for example, I am not even this student's teacher).

Thankfully, I get one of those every few years, but today was the day. Sigh.
 
Just got off a 30 minute phone call with parents where 2 of the minutes were on topic to why a phone call was needed while the other 28 minutes were about general anger/disapproval to the school that had is almost entirely out of my hands (for example, I am not even this student's teacher).

Thankfully, I get one of those every few years, but today was the day. Sigh.

'Always call from your cell phone with caller ID blocked. People rarely pick up, and you get to leave a message. Repeat on day two.

Most parents have calmed down by day three. The really bad parents often have another kid at a different school who gets in trouble the same week. Let that school take the 30 min call.
 
Always thought that calling parents at work when students were out of line got the best results.Parents and students hatted it.
 
Always thought that calling parents at work when students were out of line got the best results.Parents and students hatted it.

'Haven't the student in the room when you call works, and it's a good way to end the call.

"Your son is here. Would you like to talk to him?"
 
It's the end of the year stretch, how's everyone holding up?

Personally, it feels like my most tiring year during my thirteen year tenure.

We thankfully have four days off before before a three night trip to Acadia National Park. Right now, that trip sounds exhausting, but it's a place I've always wanted to go to and the ratio of 4 adults and 17 kids is solid.

You all got this!
 
It's the end of the year stretch, how's everyone holding up?

Personally, it feels like my most tiring year during my thirteen year tenure.

We thankfully have four days off before before a three night trip to Acadia National Park. Right now, that trip sounds exhausting, but it's a place I've always wanted to go to and the ratio of 4 adults and 17 kids is solid.

You all got this!
Love Acadia NP. Enjoy!
 
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It's the end of the year stretch, how's everyone holding up?

Personally, it feels like my most tiring year during my thirteen year tenure.

We thankfully have four days off before before a three night trip to Acadia National Park. Right now, that trip sounds exhausting, but it's a place I've always wanted to go to and the ratio of 4 adults and 17 kids is solid.

You all got this!
My girlfriend is a teacher and she’s exhausted. The kids have been pretty bad all year long. They are covid kids (3rd grade) so I can’t imagine how difficult it is.

Sidenote, Acadia is nothing short of amazing. Was there this past September, the trails are beautiful, the views are as well, and Bar Harbor (if you’ll be near) is a great little town. I think we did the West Face Trail on Cadillac Mountain, which was very steep, but seasoned hikers should be fine.
 
It's the end of the year stretch, how's everyone holding up?

Personally, it feels like my most tiring year during my thirteen year tenure.

We thankfully have four days off before before a three night trip to Acadia National Park. Right now, that trip sounds exhausting, but it's a place I've always wanted to go to and the ratio of 4 adults and 17 kids is solid.

You all got this!
beyond ready for the year to be over. Definitely the most tiring, physically and mentally, year of my career. I thought the covid hybrid year was bad, but this was somehow worse. Coaching helps keep me in it somewhat and helps the end of the year fly by.
 
Idk how everybody else feels about this, and for context I work at an urban school in CT, but I am very done with the apathy, work refusal and attendance issues. Administration does nothing, but put more on the teachers plates while they hole up in their offices all day doing whatever it is that they do.
 
My son said this was the worst year for behavior and output. He teaches 6th (they were 3rd and 4th for remote learning). He's counting the days. Will be good to tell him it's not only him.
 
Idk how everybody else feels about this, and for context I work at an urban school in CT, but I am very done with the apathy, work refusal and attendance issues. Administration does nothing, but put more on the teachers plates while they hole up in their offices all day doing whatever it is that they do.

Teachers who last for their careers learn to not take the apathy, work refusal, and attendance issues personally. Work your 8-4 (or whatever it is) and go home--don't do anything extra. You have a job, do it and go home.

Easier said than done, of course.

Admin not being supportive is a different issue. I would consider looking in other districts. I've worked in a wealthy town and two very low-performing districts. The most challenging students aren't bad if you have a supportive admin team.
 
My son said this was the worst year for behavior and output. He teaches 6th (they were 3rd and 4th for remote learning). He's counting the days. Will be good to tell him it's not only him.

This is pretty normal everywhere. I'm not convinced it's even because of Covid at this point. I think we're just seeing the results of cultural shifts.
 
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It's the end of the year stretch, how's everyone holding up?

Personally, it feels like my most tiring year during my thirteen year tenure.

We thankfully have four days off before before a three night trip to Acadia National Park. Right now, that trip sounds exhausting, but it's a place I've always wanted to go to and the ratio of 4 adults and 17 kids is solid.

You all got this!

I am a quasi-admin right now. I do discipline and classroom management coaching. I also moonlight as a SPED and reading teacher because so many of them quit we needs folks to run PPTs and give reading tests to the low kids. I have been very busy, but it doesn't always feel like it because I'm constantly doing different things.

Getting yelled at by parents claiming they'll sue me after suspending their kids is always fun, though. Lol. One parent claimed I violated free speech because the kid was fighting in the cafe and got OSS!

I am pretty good at mentally separating work/home, something most teachers seem to struggle with. The biggest challenge for me was taking 8 credits a semester on top of a new job... poor decision.

You'll love Acadia. Go to Jordan Pond House if you can swing it!
 
I am a quasi-admin right now. I do discipline and classroom management coaching. I also moonlight as a SPED and reading teacher because so many of them quit we needs folks to run PPTs and give reading tests to the low kids. I have been very busy, but it doesn't always feel like it because I'm constantly doing different things.

Getting yelled at by parents claiming they'll sue me after suspending their kids is always fun, though. Lol. One parent claimed I violated free speech because the kid was fighting in the cafe and got OSS!

I am pretty good at mentally separating work/home, something most teachers seem to struggle with. The biggest challenge for me was taking 8 credits a semester on top of a new job... poor decision.

You'll love Acadia. Go to Jordan Pond House if you can swing it!
Jordan Pond House is a beautiful spot. Didn’t eat there but the view was sweet
 
Teachers who last for their careers learn to not take the apathy, work refusal, and attendance issues personally. Work your 8-4 (or whatever it is) and go home--don't do anything extra. You have a job, do it and go home.

Easier said than done, of course.

Admin not being supportive is a different issue. I would consider looking in other districts. I've worked in a wealthy town and two very low-performing districts. The most challenging students aren't bad if you have a supportive admin team.
I get that. I am pretty good of not taking working home (mentally and physically), and not taking anything personally, but the classroom stuff has just made the days insufferable this year.

I am looking for another district believe me haha
 
My parents were both teachers and I can confidently say it’s the most under appreciated career out there, especially these days. I volunteer coaching flag football, baseball, hockey and basketball for 9-10 year olds and while most of the kids are fairly well behaved, holy cow some of them are just straight up...well, not easy to deal with. Many, many kids have zero attention span and don’t want to listen to anyone so I couldn’t imagine doing it for 6-8 hours a day. Plus grading papers on nights and weekends. My sister-in-law had a parent ask her to explain to their kid that they were getting a divorce.

So on behalf of my family and other people who still dislike Christian Laettner, a big THANK YOU!
 
Idk how everybody else feels about this, and for context I work at an urban school in CT, but I am very done with the apathy, work refusal and attendance issues. Administration does nothing, but put more on the teachers plates while they hole up in their offices all day doing whatever it is that they do.
I used to work in a similar district to the one you describe. I got a job in a different district 3 years ago and it has been the greatest change for me. I have so much less stress and anxiety in my day to day life. The things people complain about at my current district just make me chuckle.
 
I used to work in a similar district to the one you describe. I got a job in a different district 3 years ago and it has been the greatest change for me. I have so much less stress and anxiety in my day to day life. The things people complain about at my current district just make me chuckle.
Getting into a new district is my plan!
 
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This is pretty normal everywhere. I'm not convinced it's even because of Covid at this point. I think we're just seeing the results of cultural shifts.
I agree with this. I personally see it as a cultural shift both from parents and schools. My last district was all about trauma informed education, which I think is awesome. But when the implementation of that is rewarding kids that misbehave by letting them hang out in the "meditation room" instead of class it just creates more behavior problems.
 
I agree with this. I personally see it as a cultural shift both from parents and schools. My last district was all about trauma informed education, which I think is awesome. But when the implementation of that is rewarding kids that misbehave by letting them hang out in the "meditation room" instead of class it just creates more behavior problems.
I would tend to agree as well. Parents and schools have change, and while I think Covid has something to do with it, it isn't the answer or reason for everything. Kids have figured out what to say in order to get out of doing work/class. Due dates seemingly don't matter anymore, or at least in my district.
 
I agree with this. I personally see it as a cultural shift both from parents and schools. My last district was all about trauma informed education, which I think is awesome. But when the implementation of that is rewarding kids that misbehave by letting them hang out in the "meditation room" instead of class it just creates more behavior problems.

I have yet to see SRBI/PBIS/MTSS/etc. implemented well, in any district. That kind of work requires very small groups of kids and highly-individualized programming. The state is mandating all this and districts don't have the funding to implement it.

I mean, shoot, we have TWO sped teachers and 120 sped kids in one of my schools. Everyone else left for a bougie school in the burbs. Some kid that needs a behavior plan is far from a priority when we have such limited resources.

TikTok is also a plague.
 
I’m at a 6-8 middle school and the 8th grade in my school usually checks out sometime shortly after April break…..this year it was probably at the end of February…we are all riding it out and trying to make the best of it but it’s definitely one of the toughest years in terms of behavior we have had overall
 
Jordan Pond House is a beautiful spot. Didn’t eat there but the view was sweet
They had some kind of tea thing with blueberry muffins on the lawn that I remember being pleasant after hiking "the bubbles" which I believe are nearby.
 
Love Acadia NP. Enjoy!
Thanks. The company that we are using is great (we've used them before) and we've got some fun stuff lined up.

Our first morning, we'll be a scenic lobster boat and we're spending one afternoon whale watching...basically I'm excited for anything that requires just hanging out. We've got some scenic walks planned, but no major hikes since we've got some softies.

I'll stretch my comfort zone on a two hour bike ride on the carriage roads but will likely have to sit out ocean kayaking since my neck/traps still aren't 100%. We're also doing a ghost tour, which sounds cool. I thought we'd be on from breakfast to collecting phones at night, but my boss said we can organize breaks between us, so that helps, plus this long weekend will help a ton to get ready.

Sidenote, Acadia is nothing short of amazing. Was there this past September, the trails are beautiful, the views are as well, and Bar Harbor (if you’ll be near) is a great little town. I think we did the West Face Trail on Cadillac Mountain, which was very steep, but seasoned hikers should be fine.
Our hotel is just a mile from downtown Bar Harbor, so we’ll have some time to be in downtown.
 
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I for one am glad school is out. Saves 15 minutes on days I do commute to work. Not just the busses not on the road but all the achool employees not being on the road as well.
 
My son said this was the worst year for behavior and output. He teaches 6th (they were 3rd and 4th for remote learning). He's counting the days. Will be good to tell him it's not only him.
I teach middle school math and lead the department at a private school.

Our output is good in terms of test scores but grit, problem solving and more “is this going to be on the test?” mentality. It’s like kids want to be spoon fed more and more kids are attention seekers than usual. More doubting even if they have the tools to succeed.

Across all schools, it seems like there’s a common theme: schools need to do more with less staffing. Adding to that, due to a schedule change, I have 17% less teaching time, so it’s been a tricky experiment adjusting scope and sequence without sacrificing content.

I’ve also made clear to my new head that the schedule I have this year (3 days straight from 7:45 to 12:40) a recipe for burnout. She saw it as “it’s great, you’re on then you’re off”. I feel it as “sprint and then crash without the energy do anything the rest of the day”. Two “lunch meetings” have been awful too. HR alert.
TikTok is also a plague.
I can live with TikTok, but Snapchat is the source of like 90% behavior/social/emotional issues at our school. Just kids saying awful and explicit stuff about each other and families, but they’d never say it in person. So, like, all this attention is put on issues from time spent on phones outside of school.
 
I am a quasi-admin right now. I do discipline and classroom management coaching. I also moonlight as a SPED and reading teacher because so many of them quit we needs folks to run PPTs and give reading tests to the low kids. I have been very busy, but it doesn't always feel like it because I'm constantly doing different things.

Getting yelled at by parents claiming they'll sue me after suspending their kids is always fun, though. Lol. One parent claimed I violated free speech because the kid was fighting in the cafe and got OSS!

I am pretty good at mentally separating work/home, something most teachers seem to struggle with. The biggest challenge for me was taking 8 credits a semester on top of a new job... poor decision.

You'll love Acadia. Go to Jordan Pond House if you can swing it!
Get the popovers at Jordan Pond House. Jam and butter. You won't be disappointed. And make sure you do the Beehive trail.
 
I have yet to see SRBI/PBIS/MTSS/etc. implemented well, in any district. That kind of work requires very small groups of kids and highly-individualized programming. The state is mandating all this and districts don't have the funding to implement it.

I mean, shoot, we have TWO sped teachers and 120 sped kids in one of my schools. Everyone else left for a bougie school in the burbs. Some kid that needs a behavior plan is far from a priority when we have such limited resources.

TikTok is also a plague.
Those ratios are horrific..
Schools have changed. And what has not changed is the idea kids will push the boundaries. Problem is that boundaries are grey and so kids will keep pushing until they find the limit.
 
Those ratios are horrific..
Schools have changed. And what has not changed is the idea kids will push the boundaries. Problem is that boundaries are grey and so kids will keep pushing until they find the limit.

Yes, they are. We are supposed to have 6 SPED teachers but 4 quit and we can't find a single replacement. 0 applicants. The two teachets we have are in PPTs and Manifestations at least 3-4 hours a day. I don't think I've seen them in a classroom since mid-April.
 
This has been a very hard year. I teach Years 7, 8, and 9 but it feels more like teaching Years 3, 4, and 5. They are so incredibly immature and lack any kind of agency. I came into one of my classes a few weeks ago and found a Year 7 student sitting under the desk. I asked him politely to go to his seat and he responded "goo goo gaga". So some aren't even year 3 level yet in some/many respects. I get that covid set these kids back. But to this extent? It can't be just the lockdown, something else is going on. I have taught Years 7 and 8 pre-covid, for several years, and they were light years ahead of my current 7-9 socially, emotionally, academically, and in their maturity. I really fear for these kids unless they do a ton of growing up and rapidly, preferably over the summer. They don't have the same fundamental life skills and tools I had when I was in Years 7-9, and again, my 7s and 8s had just a few years ago. However, there are a few students in each grade, maybe 1/3rd, that look on with almost as much horror and bewilderment as I do when watching what some of their classmates do. So some of them have been progressing as expected. Even just watching what they do with their free time, they play like little children, with almost no sense of direction, no point, like they are loose cannons, running amuck.

For whatever reason Years 10, 11, and 12 are around what is expected, by and large. (I teach them too).
 
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