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GampelGladiator said:
BIG EAST v.878

Boston College*
Georgetown
Pittsburgh*
Providence
Seton Hall
St John's
Syracuse*
UConn*
Villanova

Butler
Creighton
DePaul
Louisville*
Marquette
Memphis*
Virginia Tech*
Wake Forest*
Xavier

Building off of bendm...

Thoughts on BE taking on 7 new teams as part of the ongoing conference realignment?

Two 9 team divisions based on geography for all non-football sports.

In MBB, play home and away with 8 division mates and 2 home and 2 road games against rotating opponents in the other division. (Hurley will despise going away from round-robin.)

For FB...8 team league...FB teams marked with *.
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EW
 
GampelGladiator said:
BIG EAST v.878

Boston College*
Georgetown
Pittsburgh*
Providence
Seton Hall
St John's
Syracuse*
UConn*
Villanova

Butler
Creighton
DePaul
Louisville*
Marquette
Memphis*
Virginia Tech*
Wake Forest*
Xavier

Building off of bendm...

Thoughts on BE taking on 7 new teams as part of the ongoing conference realignment?

Two 9 team divisions based on geography for all non-football sports.

In MBB, play home and away with 8 division mates and 2 home and 2 road games against rotating opponents in the other division. (Hurley will despise going away from round-robin.)

For FB...8 team league...FB teams marked with *.
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They bought their tickets…..,I say, let ‘em crash!!
 
bendm said:
Yeah when the acc collapses BC Cuse Pitt VT and Lville will come begging to join the BE. We can also take pity on Wake and Memphis and we can have 8 football only teams which is enough for a conference.
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We would still need one more team, because BC can go suck rocks and join the Patriot League.
 
auggie22 said:
Regarding the recent Clemson lawsuit, a debate between two posters has emerged as to which conference they should accept the inevitable offer: B1G or SEC. They are the best.
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They’re in the denial stage. They’re a long way from the acceptance stage. My guess is they’ll spend A LOT of time in depression.
 
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While this configuration may be making chicken salad out of chicken ...it is something that should be at least considered. There may be just enough to keep both basketball and football fans 'content'.

Obviously, the Big Ten and the SEC will get their pick of programs and Big 12 will take in the future ACC teams (Cal, SMU, and Stanford). It is very likely that the most, if not almost all, remaining ACC football programs will jump us in the re-alignment ranks.

Therefore, the remaining ACC teams make sense geographically, picks up some solid cities Boston/Louisville/Memphis/Pittsburgh, gets football out of the Indy ranks, keeps BE rivalries, and resumes some BE rivalries. Ultimately, it protects basketball by keeping us in the Big East and gives football a home.
 
REB1094 said:
Mintz should have portaled last year, he could have been a 1st round NBA pick with some proper coaching. Don't love Starling. I'd be down for Bell, give Hurley a 6'7 sharpshooting wing and he'll turn him into a real player

Never heard of anybody else on their roster tbh
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Bell can only do one thing and that is shoot (sometimes). He will never be part of a team that values defense. He is horrible.

As for the others, SU fans want to clean house but looks like it might just be the two Copeland (headcase) and Taylor (who left because the fans booed him). They are going to be so disappointed when this team returns everyone including Mintz who I doubt any good team would want with all the whining and hero ball he does.
 
August_West said:
Oh man we’ve reached peak delusion.

Now “ UConn would trade places with us in a second”

Is that true? What say you fellas? You want to trade places with Syracuse?

This dasher dude just won the lifetime idiot award

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August_West said:
Oh man we’ve reached peak delusion.

Now “ UConn would trade places with us in a second”

Is that true? What say you fellas? You want to trade places with Syracuse?

This dasher dude just won the lifetime idiot award

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In their mind, 5<1

Ya, let's trade places with that...

Lol

We'd trade with Duke though as 5=5, but I guess Cuse don't math well.
 
It’s funny how they go from loving these players to trashing them over a span of a few days. Copeland in particular. The way they were talking about him over there beforehand, you’d think he was the next KG or something, with how talented and passionate he was. I watched one Syracuse game this year and saw Copeland walking 90% of the time on off ball defense and not even attempt to block out once. I guess that’s the Syracuse zone…
 
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Every school fan base should enjoy the now and assume there is no tomorrow for their program. College sports has gone off a cliff of mismanagement and I don’t think it will survive the fall in a format that will be recognizable in 10 years.

The modern era of college basketball will have run from the late 70’s until a few years from now, and UConn will have dominated the latter 60% of that, and no matter what level of glorified minor league the sport becomes, UConn’s achievements will be permanent and never surpassed in the final era when college sports was actually college sports.

Syracuse will have been a chronic mediocrity for the end of that era, and is not in much better shape than UConn for what comes next. The Big 10 and SEC are never coming calling for upstate New York, and Syracuse the university has bigger problem given long-term declining enrollment across the country. A big, expensive private school in a bad location is not going to be appealing to students, and Syracuse's long-term academic decline proves this. There is nothing more to say about Syracuse.
 
UC1995 said:
Bell can only do one thing and that is shoot (sometimes). He will never be part of a team that values defense. He is horrible.

As for the others, SU fans want to clean house but looks like it might just be the two Copeland (headcase) and Taylor (who left because the fans booed him). They are going to be so disappointed when this team returns everyone including Mintz who I doubt any good team would want with all the whining and hero ball he does.
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I'm with you on this. Bell is a very selfish player who doesn't rebound and doesn't play any defense. He is not the type of kid we want to bring in. There is no player I would want from that toxic program.
 
runner11 said:
I'm with you on this. Bell is a very selfish player who doesn't rebound and doesn't play any defense. He is not the type of kid we want to bring in. There is no player I would want from that toxic program.
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Maliq Brown is a good player. It's hilarious to watch him try to play normal winning team basketball while stuck on that roster. Tons of guys are leaving that program, but he's the guy that actually should leave.
 
uconn_jack said:
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Also this post from their thread on the Clemson lawsuit:

What exactly is compelling about the status quo even? The ACC has frankly stunk for Syracuse other than a fat check we get to underwrite our programs. There hasn't been any ROI in the ACC vs say UConn who has what 2 national championships since their programs "imploded".
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Every school fan base should enjoy the now and assume there is no tomorrow for their program. College sports has gone off a cliff of mismanagement and I don’t think it will survive the fall in a format that will be recognizable in 10 years.

The modern era of college basketball will have run from the late 70’s until a few years from now, and UConn will have dominated the latter 60% of that, and no matter what level of glorified minor league the sport becomes, UConn’s achievements will be permanent and never surpassed in the final era when college sports was actually college sports.

Syracuse will have been a chronic mediocrity for the end of that era, and is not in much better shape than UConn for what comes next. The Big 10 and SEC are never coming calling for upstate New York, and Syracuse the university has bigger problem given long-term declining enrollment across the country. A big, expensive private school in a bad location is not going to be appealing to students, and Syracuse's long-term academic decline proves this. There is nothing more to say about Syracuse.
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As an institution, it's not clear at all what Syracuse provides to the region.

Its sports programs are mediocre.

There are better research institutions in Rochester (UR and RIT).

High-achieving students from wealthy families would go to Cornell or other higher-ranked private colleges.

High-achieving students from poorer families would go to SUNY schools (Geneseo, Albany, or Buffalo).

What is its niche? Journalism school in an industry that is being strangled to death by corporate interests?
 
Tenspro2002 said:
As an institution, it's not clear at all what Syracuse provides to the region.

Its sports programs are mediocre.

There are better research institutions in Rochester (UR and RIT).

High-achieving students from wealthy families would go to Cornell or other higher-ranked private colleges.

High-achieving students from poorer families would go to SUNY schools (Geneseo, Albany, or Buffalo).

What is its niche? Journalism school in an industry that is being strangled to death by corporate interests?
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I went to Syracuse with my daughter who is good (not outstanding) student. We thought Syracuse was fine. Campus was fine. Town isn't great, but there's enough by the campus to be fine. She isn't going to be a communications major. We really looked at Syracuse as a state-like University. So, once she got into a couple solid public schools, we agreed to take Syracuse off the list. We're not a fan of our home state university, but when comparing Syracuse to comparably ranked public schools (like UConn), it's hard to justify $25k or so extra per year.
 
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Chuck said:
I went to Syracuse with my daughter who is good (not outstanding) student. We thought Syracuse was fine. Campus was fine. Town isn't great, but there's enough by the campus to be fine. She isn't going to be a communications major. We really looked at Syracuse as a state-like University. So, once she got into a couple solid public schools, we agreed to take Syracuse off the list. We're not a fan of our home state university, but when comparing Syracuse to comparably ranked public schools (like UConn), it's hard to justify $25k or so extra per year.
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This all make perfect sense...but when you speak to Cuse grads...they act like it's Michigan. I've found that Cuse and BC grads have an over inflated sense of their school.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
As an institution, it's not clear at all what Syracuse provides to the region.

Its sports programs are mediocre.

There are better research institutions in Rochester (UR and RIT).

High-achieving students from wealthy families would go to Cornell or other higher-ranked private colleges.

High-achieving students from poorer families would go to SUNY schools (Geneseo, Albany, or Buffalo).

What is its niche? Journalism school in an industry that is being strangled to death by corporate interests?
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Maybe students from wealthy families who could be high achieving or think they are high achieving but couldn't get into Ivy or Patriot League type schools and want to be in a private club. I just don't see the benefit today with costs so high and with alternatives like SUNY with so many locations and privates near Boston and NYC.
 
NJHusky said:
This all make perfect sense...but when you speak to Cuse grads...they act like it's Michigan. I've found that Cuse and BC grads have an over inflated sense of their school.
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Academically, BC is actually pretty hard to get into (much harder than UConn). Syracuse not so much. But honestly most employers could care less about where you went to school. The ones who do, you most likely don’t want to work for.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
They have one of those in Rochester too.
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There's a Dinosaur in Brooklyn. It's about a 10-minute walk from my place. It's good enough but certainly nothing special. (There are, believe it not, some great BBQ places in NY -- Hometown BBQ is excellent.) But, to be fair, the franchises are never as good as the original.
 
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