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vowelguy said:
Bilas is saying this is basically a plea deal worked out with the NCAA.

If so, then there'd be nothing more.
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Eh, I just think the school wants to get out ahead of the bad news coming. Hopefully there is more to come.
 
vowelguy said:
Bilas is saying this is basically a plea deal worked out with the NCAA.

If so, then there'd be nothing more.
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I'm not buying it. Bills is a good analyst, but he doesn't have many sources on these types of matters.
 
Mots010 said:
So if I read this correctly, they initiated the investigation in 2007, then proceeded to continue breaking rules while they were investigating. Sounds wonderful.
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It's a process.
 
They will tack on more punishment. They have to account for UNC's discretions and any discretions UK might have in the future.
 
Do we even know what it is truly for yet? There were leaks left and right during our investigation. How is this being kept so close to the vest? Congrats to boeheim for being banned from double the amount of tourneys he has won though.
 
They really screwed over Rakeem Christmas in this scenario. Him being the sole senior. Assuming the NCAA didn't dictate this. Of course if the NCAA gives them two years this is just an attempt at face-saving.

Next question I have is how soon does Boehiem get the Calhoun treatment. He now has two postseason bans on his record. Is there a coach at one school with more?
 
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specialisthusky said:
Do we even know what it is truly for yet? There were leaks left and right during our investigation. How is this being kept so close to the vest? Congrats to boeheim for being banned from double the amount of tourneys he has won though.
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Most of the leaks were because UConn is a public school and many were not accurate even with that.
 
Cuse is trying to prevent transfers with this move.
 
caw said:
Most of the leaks were because UConn is a public school and many were not accurate even with that.
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Thanks. Had a feeling there had to be a better answer than Emmert getting drunk and bragging about it to to Greg doyel over martinis.

I don't even remember what was true or false anymore. Such a lousy time for the program.
 
They're banned from the ACC Tournament too. Funny how nobody here is whining about how unfair this is. Yet when we were banned from the Big East Tournament because of our NCAA Tournament ban, that was so horrible. LOL.
 
vowelguy said:
Bilas is saying this is basically a plea deal worked out with the NCAA.

If so, then there'd be nothing more.
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If this is true, shame on the NCAA the blood sucking pieces of shat. Shame on the Cuse. I hope we ride them on this for years the way the rode us. Cheaters.
Uconn is the example of what happens when a school is honest. Other schools take notice.
 
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Gregory Koch said:
They're banned from the ACC Tournament too. Funny how nobody here is whining about how unfair this is. Yet when we were banned from the Big East Tournament because of our NCAA Tournament ban, that was so horrible. LOL.
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Our league didn't stick up for us after we lost scholarships in addition to a double jeopardy ban. It was the leagues choice to follow suit, and was a joke.
 
I will give Syracuse message boards mods credit that you have to be a member to look at any threads discussing the ban. Our board would be full of trolls kicking our teeth in with no lifeboat from the higher ups.
 
Gregory Koch said:
They're banned from the ACC Tournament too. Funny how nobody here is whining about how unfair this is. Yet when we were banned from the Big East Tournament because of our NCAA Tournament ban, that was so horrible. LOL.
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I don't get the joke. Why would we care if they are banned from their tournament? I hate, HATE Cuse.

You have a weird sense of humor.
 
Gregory Koch said:
They're banned from the ACC Tournament too. Funny how nobody here is whining about how unfair this is. Yet when we were banned from the Big East Tournament because of our NCAA Tournament ban, that was so horrible. LOL.
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The difference is that apparently they are being banned for violations they have known about for 7 years. Rules and punishments that were in place for awhile now. Also they self imposed the ban.

UConn was banned based on a change in rules punishment and the BET ban was forced on UConn by the league.

Huge difference.
 
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Banning yourselves for the current year when you know you aren't doing anything in the tourney anyway is a joke. Real punishment is being banned NEXT season because that hurts recruiting. Banning yourselves in the current year only hurts the kids on the team but doesn't punish the school.
 
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caw said:
The difference is that apparently they are being banned for violations they have known about for 7 years. Rules and punishments that were in place for awhile now. Also they self imposed the ban.

UConn was banned based on a change in rules punishment and the BET ban was forced on UConn by the league.

Huge difference.
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UConn had a vote in the rule change that led to the BET ban being imposed on us, and judging by the fact that it passed unanimously, evidently voted for it themselves. I said back when the Big East passed that rule that it was a good rule but I didn't want to see them going and granting a waiver to Syracuse when they were inevitably banned. Well, 'Cuse is not in the Big East anymore, and neither are we (though I believe that rule along with everything else Big East except the name carries over to the AAC) but I'm glad to see it being applied to them too. The merits of our ban versus theirs are another issue, but the Big East didn't issue our postseason ban, and made the right decision in making the rule change. Think about it - there's a decent chance SMU gets a postseason ban before the tournament starts, self-imposed or otherwise. They're probably getting one eventually, it's a matter of when rather than if. Suffice it to say, either this year or next, SMU will probably be banned from the postseason. Imagine if they were allowed to participate in, and win, the AAC Tournament. At this point, it's highly unlikely we're going to the NCAA Tournament unless we win the conference tournament. Considering how the selection committee hated The American last year and will hate them even more now that Louisville's gone, it's possible the same will be true next year even if we have a better season. Imagine if SMU were postseason banned and we faced them, and lost, in the AAC Title Game, costing us a tournament berth. Would that be fair? Of course not. We'd all be complaining about it, and justifiably so.

Postseason bans should include conference tournaments. When you allow the conference to determine the merits of the postseason ban, you start up a very slippery slope that I don't particularly want to get into. And it could also cost a team a spot in the tournament.
 
pnow15 said:
Cuse is trying to prevent transfers with this move.
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Not really, I think they're just trying to sell this low season when they're not that good. If anything, they're hoping for a couple under-performers to transfer. Look up Ron Patterson and BJ Johnson.
 
And I love how they claim the last year this was going on was miraculously the season before they went to a Final Four.
 
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How can the NCAA allow a team to make this self imposed penalty during a season?
I can't believe that they are going to let this stand
If it does- UConn should do something legally against the NCAA - who made this decision, Eric Holder????
This decision, if it stands, my anger will far surpasses the anger I hold at the UConn mens BB performance this year.
 
Looks like the Syracuse-educated higher ups at the ESPN machine are instructing Dino Gaudio to tread lightly on this topic during this halftime show. Gaudio is crying how it's not fair to current players to be banned from the postseason for actions committed before they even got to campus.

Where was he two years ago when everyone was crucifying us and saying the (retroactive) ban was just? Or is the ban just a problem because the personnel at ESPN, who all attended Syracuse, are now witnessing it happen to their beloved team?
 
I won't complain about the ban too much, Bazz used it effectively and publicly.
 
EastCoast2 said:
Not really, I think they're just trying to sell this low season when they're not that good. If anything, they're hoping for a couple under-performers to transfer. Look up Ron Patterson and BJ Johnson.
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Maybe there are some legs to that 2-year ban thing, and they are hoping they can make one of those years this one. That still stings if 2016 is a lost year, but not nearly as bad as if the years were 2016 and 2017, and they missed the tourny this year anyway.
 
Nice try Cuse but the NCAA almost always more severe penalties than the self imposed kind.
 
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