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I replayed that sequence, and the funny thing is that even with moving (and she did) she still didn't contact the player as far as I could see - the Syracuse player looked around in surprise after the whistle, not knowing why it was blown.
It was a bad call. First half CW gets a charge player in the circle and has a foot out of bounds.
 
If you read further in the thread you will see that the shot clock was reset but the reset was a little slow and after the shot had been executed.
On a play like that the time keeper has to be signaled by the ref to reset the clock so the process has a little delay built in. When it is a shot that clearly hits the rim, the time keeper does not need a signal from a ref (I think.)
 
Researched, the reset came momentarily after the shot went in flashed to 20 then 30.
I have a hard time understanding what you are saying. When the ball was in the air before it reached the backboard, the shot clock had been re-set to 20 seconds (due to judgement that Syracuse had momentary possession). Just as the shot entered the basket, the shot clock decremented to 19 (see that moment below).
And yes, after the made basket, the shot clock was reset to 30 seconds to start the new Syracuse possession.

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Just another thought on Q and Syracuse. I don't think any of the players or the coach complained about Uconn setting up a play with the shot clock off and up by 29 points.

I suspect if say ND tried that against Uconn, the BY might just break!
 
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Why? Nobody ever got possession from Syracuse.
It was pointed out by another poster that the shot clock did in fact reset. I subsequently looked closer at the game film, and sure enough the shot clock operator had in fact reset the clock to 20 seconds. So evidently, I wasn’t the only person who felt that the Syracuse player had gained possession of the ball.

On the other hand, Christyn believed, as you do, that Syracuse did not have possession, so she let it fly. If you look further at the game film, as Christyn is running back on defense, Paige is smiling away, looking at the shot clock, wondering why Christyn took a 40’ shot with 20 seconds on the clock.

The bottom line is that the shot went in. 3 points for the Huskies.
 
If every team played the same style, with the same offensive and defensive schemes the game would be very boring.

Exactly how many championships have the teams you mentioned won ?
None. But IMO they played a style that respected the game. They didn't come out in clown suits. Why don't you read up on the teams I mentioned. Those Gonzaga teams were the heritage of the current team. Mark Few was an assistant coach of Dan Monson in those years. Try to actually know something.
 
Just another thought on Q and Syracuse. I don't think any of the players or the coach complained about Uconn setting up a play with the shot clock off and up by 29 points.

I suspect if say ND tried that against Uconn, the BY might just break!
Who started that, dribbling the clock out? IMO it's stupid. Give the backups a chance to do something. I can see it in a close game in which the starters are still out there and the team trailing backs off fouling. Not a blowout. So, Saylor and Piath get a chance for some small amount of time and you have to just dribble it out. That's crap!
 
Just another thought on Q and Syracuse. I don't think any of the players or the coach complained about Uconn setting up a play with the shot clock off and up by 29 points.

I suspect if say ND tried that against Uconn, the BY might just break!

Who started that, dribbling the clock out? IMO it's stupid. Give the backups a chance to do something. I can see it in a close game in which the starters are still out there and the team trailing backs off fouling. Not a blowout. So, Saylor and Piath get a chance for some small amount of time and you have to just dribble it out. That's crap!

They did ask Q after last night's game why he left his starters in after UConn took our starters out. He just said, "I have 9 players."
 
Against Iowa, we should start Paige, Nika, Aaliyah, Liv and Aubrey with the latter guarding Clark. Aubrey has the athleticism to disturb Caitlin's rhythm.
Iowa is small, so we'll destroy Iowa in the paint with our big lineup, eh? Therefore, no need for much perimeter shooting via Ania, CW or Evina.
We should 'front' Cinzano. They can't lob to Cinzano over Liv.
Fortunately, UConn is a bad matchup for Iowa in so many ways
However, I have seen Caitlin Clark play .. she is the real deal .. her first half against Kentucky was one for the ages .. in comparison, she buried Rhyne Howard, no contest .. too bad she doesn't have more of a supporting cast; if she did the Huskies coulda been in trouble and we coulda had an exciting game.
You want a 3 year starter to not start? LOL LOL>>LOL>>LOL>>LOL>>LOL>>LOL> and also LOL.
 
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Wow! Texas A&M escaped in OT. Once again, the refs bailed them out by calling a held ball in the last few seconds & Iowa State up by 2 with the ball. But there was no double possession & the Aggies should have been called for foul. Instead, they tie the game & win in OT.
 
I have a hard time understanding what you are saying. When the ball was in the air before it reached the backboard, the shot clock had been re-set to 20 seconds (due to judgement that Syracuse had momentary possession). Just as the shot entered the basket, the shot clock decremented to 19 (see that moment below).
And yes, after the made basket, the shot clock was reset to 30 seconds to start the new Syracuse possession.

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I was looking at the clock on the broadcast. If Syracuse was granted possession then turned it over again when CW "stole" the pass, the clock should have gone to 30 first when Syracuse had possession then when UConn got the ball back, no? What were the officials signaling?
 
Clark's jock strap? Really? You are so confused about so many things, but this is the topper. :p
thought we needed a bit of humor on the subject....:)
 
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There is no way PB will be guarding Clark. She’s playing 40 min a game as is, I don’t see Geno giving her that matchup it would exert too much energy that’s needed for offense. And Geno hasn’t had PB be the lock down defender yet why would she now?
you are probably right Hey. But PB knows her better than anybody else. I wouldn't sell PB short on anything. I don't think playing defense against an excellent player will cause her game to go in the tubes or tire her out unnecessarily. I also don't think it will get her in foul trouble.

I think it is as important to minimise the damage that clark does since she could easily go for 30 as it is for PB to score 25. Defense is as important as offense.

If we could hold clark to 20 and PB was a major part of that and she herself put up 20, then I think that is a win for us given our superiority at the other positions.
 
Hold on, I have read in many treads on the Bone Yard that Anna M is a lock down deffender. I have read that she is very fast and is a shoot blocker plus a steals machine. Her 3 point shot was money its in a lot of Bone Yard treads. Why not put Anna on Clark??
well it's a thought....If that happened, I think this board would blow up.

In all seriousness, Anna's length on the perimeter might bother Clark....but you have to guard Clark as soon as they cross half court. The best defense I think is to deny her the ball. The best deny defenders we have are PB, NM and AG.

Could go zone....
 
well it's a thought....If that happened, I think this board would blow up.

In all seriousness, Anna's length on the perimeter might bother Clark....but you have to guard Clark as soon as they cross half court. The best defense I think is to deny her the ball. The best deny defenders we have are PB, NM and AG.

Could go zone....
As I have said before, put Aubrey on Clark from the giddyap .. on offense, we are going to beat Iowa in the paint and Aubrey can help there too, eh?
 
you are probably right Hey. But PB knows her better than anybody else. I wouldn't sell PB short on anything. I don't think playing defense against an excellent player will cause her game to go in the tubes or tire her out unnecessarily. I also don't think it will get her in foul trouble.

I think it is as important to minimise the damage that clark does since she could easily go for 30 as it is for PB to score 25. Defense is as important as offense.

If we could hold clark to 20 and PB was a major part of that and she herself put up 20, then I think that is a win for us given our superiority at the other positions.
IMO a complete team like UConn does not need to change everything up for one player. In fact, I would argue that the way the team is playing man-to-man now is exactly the right remedy to keep Clark in check. Sometimes over-thinking disrupts the team’s mojo.
I like the idea of picking her up at half court and then aggressive team defense from there. We switch on all screens, so everyone will be guarding her. Start out with CW, E, or NM on her. We are better at all other positions, maybe a wash at center.
 
IMO a complete team like UConn does not need to change everything up for one player. In fact, I would argue that the way the team is playing man-to-man now is exactly the right remedy to keep Clark in check. Sometimes over-thinking disrupts the team’s mojo.
I like the idea of picking her up at half court and then aggressive team defense from there. We switch on all screens, so everyone will be guarding her. Start out with CW, E, or NM on her. We are better at all other positions, maybe a wash at center.
Thank you for the reply MD.

I don't think my proposal is changing everything we do is it? If we went entirely to zone, then yes, that would be true. Just looking at the starters, I just think PB and NM are our best shots at slowing down Clark and NM may be compromised a bit.

But maybe GA challenges CW or EW to take on the responsibility and maybe a rotation is there as well so they aren't on her all game.

Clark will need a great performance I think for them to win, so as long as we keep her less than great, we will win..
 
As I have said before, put Aubrey on Clark from the giddyap .. on offense, we are going to beat Iowa in the paint and Aubrey can help there too, eh?
I like it, but you you are going to get us in big trouble with boneyard by suggesting AG should start the game......:)
 
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I was looking at the clock on the broadcast. If Syracuse was granted possession then turned it over again when CW "stole" the pass, the clock should have gone to 30 first when Syracuse had possession then when UConn got the ball back, no? What were the officials signaling?
Cluelessness?
 
I was looking at the clock on the broadcast. If Syracuse was granted possession then turned it over again when CW "stole" the pass, the clock should have gone to 30 first when Syracuse had possession then when UConn got the ball back, no? What were the officials signaling?
Well that's actually what happened (sort of). If you watch the shot clock at the bottom of the screen in this video you will see that when Williams got the ball the shot clock was at about 3. So she turned and with 1 on the clock let go the prayer shot. Immediately after that the clock resets to 30 for a fraction of a second and very quickly after that it gets set to 20. All of that was a reaction of the timekeeper to resetting the shot clock as possession changes.

I think one of the questions to ask is why did it go from 30 to 20 instead of from 30 (for the Syracuse possession) to 30 to begin the new Uconn possession. Why did it go to 20? What happened doesn't fit the rules I know about when the clock gets set to 20. Is there a rule that covers this or was this a clock keeper mistake? (that doesn't matter at all in this case of course)

 
The first 10 minutes will decide this game. We need a solid start with defense leading the way. Establish our inside game early. Our eight starters will defeat their three. Our coaches will adjust to what needs to be done as the game progresses. Play with intensity and find the joy during the game. Respect the other team as we do.
 
I don’t think CW had to shoot that long 3 that she banked in. I think the shot clock reset to 20.
The shot clock light and buzzer went off right after the shot went in.
 
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