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Interesting that it was considered a minor disappointment after opening around $176 mil. domestically this weekend and $374 mil. worldwide. The bar is set awfully high. It's the 3rd highest opener in December all time, but comes in behind the previous films in this trilogy.

Meanwhile "Cats" took in $6.5 mil. :eek: Nobody saw that had bomb written all over it, right? :rolleyes:
 
nwhoopfan said:
Meanwhile "Cats" took in $6.5 mil. :eek: Nobody saw that had bomb written all over it, right? :rolleyes:
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Cats is the only broadway musical I’ve ever seen. It wasn’t bad but the movie clips look like the musical, basically SOS but not live. When you launch the same weekend you know the studio is not expecting to capture the mainstream audience.
 
ZooCougar said:
These three movies have been utterly unnecessary.
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You can be upset with this one. But TFA is amazing, and depending on what side of the TLJ coin you land on, that one is amazing as well.
 
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StepbackCity said:
And? Cool it there. You are literally using age as an argument for why someone likes Star Wars. It’s Star Wars.
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That’s a pretty silly way to dumb it down

there’s no age argument as to why someone like Star Wars; nobody is making one. We can however talk about why certain people like certain Star Wars movies given there are generational divides between trilogies.

I’m 29 by the way so you and I aren’t too far off
 
Waquoit said:
I checked out of Star Wars when the Ewoks checked in. Can you really suspend your disbelief with this stuff anymore? It sounds like just fan service these days.
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Might as well make a movie about the evolution of the Ewoks.
 
I reallllly hope Adam Driver is down to make a Kylo Ren spin off film. He’s the stand-out of this trilogy and has so much more potential as a character.

One cool idea for it could be the time between TLJ and the beginning of TROS where he’s going around the galaxy like a badass sniffing out all opposition, and how he learns about Palpatine. I love the rage element that Driver brings to the character. Idk what type of arc would be here for the character, but that’s not for me to decide.
 
Finally saw it. Liked it for the most part. A few "huh?" moments. Like others have said, a lot going on in this film. It just really makes one wonder why Rian Johnson was handed the reigns for TLJ, seems like they could've saved themselves some grief if J.J. helmed all of them. Oh well.

Jodie Comer had a cameo in it! Took me a second to recognize her.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Finally saw it. Liked it for the most part. A few "huh?" moments. Like others have said, a lot going on in this film. It just really makes one wonder why Rian Johnson was handed the reigns for TLJ, seems like they could've saved themselves some grief if J.J. helmed all of them. Oh well.

Jodie Comer had a cameo in it! Took me a second to recognize her.
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Politics. Johnson has certain beliefs, and an idea to "change" Star Wars that Kathleen Kennedy shares. This could have been approached in several ways, but they chose the one that derailed this trilogy of films. He killed the story lines from the first film and boxed Abrams in for the third film. Why didn't they just give Johnson a stand alone film to implement his vision in? I'll never understand that decision.
 
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Regarding directors, I'd forgotten that Colin Treverrow (Jurassic World) was supposed to helm Ep. IX but was given the axe. It really, really doesn't make sense that they hired 3 different directors for this trilogy. Should've just had J.J. direct all 3.
 
Yeah, they should have had one director for all 3. The trilogy was very clunky as a result.

Tbh, I enjoyed TFA and TROS, but they were both kind of hollow. What's the point of making a new trilogy if you're just trying to stick to the same themes of the old trilogy? I enjoyed TLJ more than the other two, even if some of the subversion of expectations felt too forced.
 
I thought I remember reading they wanted Abrams to do the second one but he wanted to move on. And then I read a few weeks ago that Disney didn't allow him to use an extra 2-3 months to finish the film so it was basically rushed and he wasn't thrilled.
I think he's done working with Disney.
 
The Viking said:
I thought I remember reading they wanted Abrams to do the second one but he wanted to move on. And then I read a few weeks ago that Disney didn't allow him to use an extra 2-3 months to finish the film so it was basically rushed and he wasn't thrilled.
I think he's done working with Disney.
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I think he and Bad Robot are taking over the DC universe for WB. As for any role he may have had in the second film, we will probably never know the entire truth. One thing is for sure though, Kathleen Kennedy allowed Johnson to kill off every plot line that was started in The Force Awakens in favor of.....nonsense that just killed the momentum. Now we get the third film which just feels like a thrown together mishmash that sets out to undo said nonsense, but still results in a so so film. Star Wars, how the hell did they manage to mess it up?
 
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I thought it was ok, but they crammed two movies worth of stuff into one, so the pace was just lightning fast. Entertaining, sure, but it left a lot of potential detail and character development on the table.

Remember when Luke first meets Obi-Wan, and learns that his father was a Jedi? One of the best scenes in the series. There was nothing like that here.

My least favorite element of all three new films is that they each have moment where if we only had this thing or person we could get out of this highly time sensitive predicament? We've got X hours, what can we do? I know, let's travel thousands of light years away, infiltrate a difficult place, persuade or otherwise get the person or thing, fly back, have them do what we need and we'll be saved!

So, in a few hours you'll do something that takes weeks. It's truly awful. It's very disjointed when screen time and real time don't move at a consistent pace. If 5 minutes on screen is a day don't suddenly make 15 minutes an hour. At least this time they didn't waste 20 minutes of screen time about how terrible the place they went was.
 
CL82 said:
Dual of the Fates seems much more interesting. I saw ROS. It was watchable and entertaining but had, as you noted, huge plot problems and cobbled together ideas.
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While the prequels had many problems, there was definitely a story line there that progressed from A to B to Z. The biggest problem in my view is that Disney tried 'experimenting' with different ideas, different writers, and different directors with very little coordination between the 3. I know JJ directed VII and IX; but, Johnson really didn't collaborate with JJ in between VII and VIII and basically blew-up a lot of the plot lines between the two and JJ returned the favor between VIII and IX. In retrospect, I would have preferred to see 1 writer /director for all 3 to better tie everything in and keep closer the Star Wars 'script.' Let Johnson and Edwards experiment with one-off stories lines outside of the main story like they did successfully with Rouge One.
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
I would have preferred to see 1 writer /director for all 3 to better tie everything in and keep closer the Star Wars 'script.'
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A whole bunch of different directors handled various Marvel movies, but I gotta think Kevin Feige had his hands all over all of them. W/ maybe a few exceptions there was some continuity between them and they all built up to a big finale. I think different directors can work if they don't have too much creative control and the studio gives them a framework and they stick to it.
 
I swear at some point Disney plus should just re-do star wars 1-9 in like 4 10-show seasons or something like that.
It seems like a lot of die hard fans are upset wi
th how 1-3 and 8,9 were done.
Its probably a dumb idea but it would give them a lot more hours to develop characters better and re-do some stuff.
Would require all new actors.
Like I said probably a dumb idea but who knows.
 
The Viking said:
I swear at some point Disney plus should just re-do star wars 1-9 in like 4 10-show seasons or something like that.
It seems like a lot of die hard fans are upset wi
th how 1-3 and 8,9 were done.
Its probably a dumb idea but it would give them a lot more hours to develop characters better and re-do some stuff.
Would require all new actors.
Like I said probably a dumb idea but who knows.
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I wish 1-3 would be retconned.

7-9 weren’t nearly as bad. But I wish they were never made...
 
ZooCougar said:
I wish 1-3 would be retconned.

7-9 weren’t nearly as bad. But I wish they were never made...
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If the Star Wars movies were made in chronological order, I - III would have been better as it woudl have been an introduction to the Star Wars Universe and the concept of basically the Fall of the Roman Empire is not a bad story to play with. The issue was the script (midi what?) and some of the characters (Jar Jar!) and actors (though its difficult to tell if the problem was the character's script or the actor's performance [there was talk that Ryan Phillippe was in the running for Anakin Skywalker in II, which I was a good fit outside of his stature, 5' 8").

I'm on the fence about the need for XII - IX. The fan in me of course wanted to see the old gang back together. But, as I have said before, the story pulled some of the charters to far away from what had already been established, especially Luke, and it was already competing with well established lore in what is now the Star Wars Legends books and comics, especially the Dark Horse Dark Empire II story and Zahn's novels overall (I am still mad that Mara Jade was not brought back in as she was one of my favorite SW characters).
 
StepbackCity said:
You can be upset with this one. But TFA is amazing, and depending on what side of the TLJ coin you land on, that one is amazing as well.
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I honestly cannot put into words how flippin' terrible TLJ was. Horrendous in virtually every conceivable way.
 
HuskyHawk said:
So, in a few hours you'll do something that takes weeks. It's truly awful. It's very disjointed when screen time and real time don't move at a consistent pace. If 5 minutes on screen is a day don't suddenly make 15 minutes an hour. At least this time they didn't waste 20 minutes of screen time about how terrible the place they went was.
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Eh, they do it on TV all the time. The show Fringe used to treat Boston and NYC as if they were 10 minutes apart.
 
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