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intlzncster

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Vegas will continue to boom. It’s the entertainment capital of the world. You think it’s going to fall apart because other states will be able to allow sports gambling? Vegas has evolved and the high end dining, night clubs, pool parties are much of the focus now. The hockey team did incredible there this year and so will the NFL team. Las Vegas will continue to thrive.

Still annoyed the Raiders are going there. Just leave them in Oakland. Put one of the LA teams in Vegas. Won't be an NFL team in LA in 10 years anyway. Those people don't care.
 

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Still annoyed the Raiders are going there. Just leave them in Oakland. Put one of the LA teams in Vegas. Won't be an NFL team in LA in 10 years anyway. Those people don't care.
But there is no better marriage in football than the Raiders and Las Vegas. Talk about two things being made for each other.
 

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Vegas will see a slight dip in their sportsbook revenues, but that's been happening for years now. They have apps there too, so people don't even have to go to the casino. I went there twice, once was in the summer and the sportbooks were desolate, but the other time was during NCAA basketball conference tourney week, and the places were jammed. Sports make up such a small share of their business, they won't feel much. They must have seen an uptick from NHL though, and will see another one once the Raiders are in town. They will be fine.
 

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But there is no better marriage in football than the Raiders and Las Vegas. Talk about two things being made for each other.
Disagree. Have you ever been Oakland? Vegas is far too glitzy. The Raiders belong in Oakland.
 

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I can't tag him in posts so it's not looking good

Don't sweat any longer JMick. Whaler is in the house.

I have to say I'm fairly impressed this thread wasn't totally butchered.

The state is going to have to bring in a William Hill type company to run the operations. They suck in some ways but they have the experience, scale and technology to move quickly.

I think the impact is being overstated by a lot of people.

1. The impact to Vegas is zero.
2. The number of new players isn't going to be as big as some seem to think. If you wanted to get bets down the barriers aren't too high.
3. The margins on running a sports book aren't that high. The state needs to make money and WH needs to make money and it's somewhat expensive to administer - are they really going to be able to offer a competitive product? Can they get to -110 lines even? The offshores may still have a more compelling offering.
4. We just saw the DFS sites try something similar. They burned a ton of cash to gain new customers and very quickly people soured on the product. Only 1-2% of people are going to win (and William Hill et al will try to limit them), a lot of people touch the stove learn quickly they are just flushing money down the toilet and give up quickly. That's what you saw at the DFS sites. The average person had no chance of winning.
5. Not offering credit is going to provide local bookmakers that advantage still - and your local doesn't send you 1099s on the rare occasion you win.
6. I don't see how this is going to drive huge TV ratings - are there really that many people who would be compelled to bet on Cincinnati/Cleveland on Thursday night and weren't doing it before? This new population of people is going to drive big incremental ratings? Seems to me the good news for TV is the advertising dollars that are going to flow in just like DFS - but should be bigger and stick around longer.

Don't count out Orrin Hatch and co ruining everything too.
 

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Nice to meet you Whaler11! I heard you were the resident BY sports bettor. Add me to your crew! It sounds like we are very similar. In fact, in your absence, some thought that I was you, with a new handle.
 

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Nice to meet you Whaler11! I heard you were the resident BY sports bettor. Add me to your crew! It sounds like we are very similar. In fact, in your absence, some thought that I was you, with a new handle.

Nobody truly made that mistake. Argument styles are totally different. If you are on the wrong side of a whaler opinion he's

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Complete denial. Provides too much extra context.

That is totally the Q. Gambling scrub.

You got me.

I also bet on first NBA player to cause a sneak tying time out, first baseball player to break a bat, and first 3rd base coach to scratch himself in a given game.
 

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Artest probably confused $3,500 for $35K. And I'm pretty sure you can't even bet $35K in a Vegas casino without them doing a background check on you or something. For places to accept a bet of $10K or more, you will need to be interviewed by the sports book director or some higher up.
 
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Artest probably confused $3,500 for $35K. And I'm pretty sure you can't even bet $35K in a Vegas casino without them doing a background check on you or something. For places to accept a bet of $10K or more, you will need to be interviewed by the sports book director or some higher up.

Pretty sure the people who approached him were from his neighborhood and weren't going through Vegas. There are wise guys in this area who accept 6 figure bets
 

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Pretty sure the people who approached him were from his neighborhood and weren't going through Vegas. There are wise guys in this area who accept 6 figure bets

You're right, but winning a bet like that in the streets is dangerous. Some guys would rather whack a 100K winner than pay up. Anyone recall The Sopranos season where Tony got into betting big time and was nervous about getting offed when he won a bunch? I'd rather not mess with that.
 

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