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Lefty2one said:
Say what!?
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which part are you tripping off of? That he wasn't a superstar(he definitely wasn't), or that his best years in the NBA wasn't as good as Big Dog's or Hardaway's(he was definitely better than Big Dog, Hardaway is debatable)? Go look up Cassell's best year's in NJ, MIL, LAC, and MINN, he was playing at an All Star level his best year's during those landing spots and its no coincidence that those teams had their best years in quite some time with NJ making the playoffs after a long absence post Kenny Anderson/Derrick Coleman, MIL making the conf finals and losing to AI/76ers, LAC making the 2nd round of the playoffs after a long playoff drought, and MINN making it to the conf finals when KG couldn't get out of the first round for years, and they could've possibly made the NBA Finals if Cassell didn't get injured.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cassesa01.html
 
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aceboon said:
which part are you tripping off of? That he wasn't a superstar(he definitely wasn't), or that his best years in the NBA wasn't as good as Big Dog's or Hardaway's(he was definitely better than Big Dog, Hardaway is debatable)? Go look up Cassell's best year's in NJ, MIL, LAC, and MINN, he was playing at an All Star level his best year's during those landing spots and its no coincidence that those teams had their best years in quite some time with NJ making the playoffs after a long absence post Kenny Anderson/Derrick Coleman, MIL making the conf finals and losing to AI/76ers, LAC making the 2nd round of the playoffs after a long playoff drought, and MINN making it to the conf finals when KG couldn't get out of the first round for years, and they could've possibly made the NBA Finals if Cassell didn't get injured.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cassesa01.html
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Not a superstar but a very good clutch player. He had some all-star quality seasons. A superstar is a 1st ballot HOF at the very least. He also helped put the 08 Celtics team over the top. Currently he's an assistant on the Bullets.
 
Stan and Kevin Love. Stan might not have been a superstar, but his son sure plays like one
 
He wasn't that good( decent college player) but Jordan's son had the highlight of his career when his team beat us in 2012(?).
 
Cross sports...Delino DeSheilds' daughter Diamond is a really good hoops player for UNC.
 
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dsturdy5 said:
Cross sports...Delino DeSheilds' daughter Diamond is a really good hoops player for UNC.
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WAS a really good hoops player for UNC. Transferring now.
 
Patrick Ewing's kid, Patrick Ewing Jr. I believe was on that Georgetown Final 4 team with Jeff Green ( though I could be mistaken).
 
Dell and Steph Curry, the younger brother played at Duke
 
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Wilt the Stilt must have spawned a few good athletes...
 
J-dog said:
Wilt the Stilt must have spawned a few good athletes...
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Wilt's genes have had a significant impact on most sectors of society. He's a modern day Genghis Khan.
 
Alonzo Mourning and Albert Mourning!
 
Barry Larkin and Shane Larkin - different sports but the kid was a stud last year at Miami as a Freshman. Playing for the Mav's in the NBA now.
 
aceboon said:
which part are you tripping off of? That he wasn't a superstar(he definitely wasn't), or that his best years in the NBA wasn't as good as Big Dog's or Hardaway's(he was definitely better than Big Dog, Hardaway is debatable)? Go look up Cassell's best year's in NJ, MIL, LAC, and MINN, he was playing at an All Star level his best year's during those landing spots and its no coincidence that those teams had their best years in quite some time with NJ making the playoffs after a long absence post Kenny Anderson/Derrick Coleman, MIL making the conf finals and losing to AI/76ers, LAC making the 2nd round of the playoffs after a long playoff drought, and MINN making it to the conf finals when KG couldn't get out of the first round for years, and they could've possibly made the NBA Finals if Cassell didn't get injured.
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Re: Hardaway, stats aren't needed IMO. Just watching them play, the old eye test, Cassell was not in Tim Hardaway's league and after Reggie Miller, Hardaway is my least favorite NBA player of all-time. I hated that dude, he gets no love from me. I don't think you'll find many people that will agree that Cassell and Hardaway are comparable but who knows. Cassell's best years also came when the NBA and especially the Eastern Conference was a dumpster fire.

Cassell made one All-NBA team. Hardaway made an All-NBA team five times when quite frankly the crop of PG's around the NBA was much better then than in the early-mid 2000's during Cassell's prime.

Big Dog you can make an argument for sure, my reaction was more to Hardaway.
 
CodyJ. said:
When was the last time as superstars kid was actually any good on a high level? In any sport. I'm not saying Cassell Jr. wont pan out. Just starting a thread here for comparisons.
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Cecil & Prince Fielder
Howie & Kyle Long
 
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Lefty2one said:
Re: Hardaway, stats aren't needed IMO. Just watching them play, the old eye test, Cassell was not in Tim Hardaway's league and after Reggie Miller, Hardaway is my least favorite NBA player of all-time. I hated that dude, he gets no love from me. I don't think you'll find many people that will agree that Cassell and Hardaway are comparable but who knows. Cassell's best years also came when the NBA and especially the Eastern Conference was a dumpster fire.

Cassell made one All-NBA team. Hardaway made an All-NBA team five times when quite frankly the crop of PG's around the NBA was much better then than in the early-mid 2000's during Cassell's prime.

Big Dog you can make an argument for sure, my reaction was more to Hardaway.
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If you want to get into the nitty-gritty numbers, Cassell actually grades out better. Caveats about advanced stats in basketball, but Cassell ranks higher in PER (19.8 to 18.6) and win shares (87.5 to 85.0). This doesn't definitively say that Cassell was better, but I don't think there's a good argument that Hardaway was way ahead of him.
 
Roy Marble and Roy Marble

Pete Rose and Missy Rose

Rod Stewart and Breanna Stewart

Cliff Robertson and Tony Robertson

Chuck Connors and Jimmy Connors

The Waltons and Bill Walton

Just to name a few more………...
 
mauconnfan said:
Roy Marble and Roy Marble

Pete Rose and Missy Rose

Rod Stewart and Breanna Stewart

Cliff Robertson and Tony Robertson

Chuck Connors and Jimmy Connors

The Waltons and Bill Walton

Just to name a few more………...
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Steve McQueen and anyone with the last name McQueen. Yes, just having that name makes you cool.
 
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