State Ethics Office Rules Corey Edsall Can Coach Only This Year At UConn; Ethics Laws Broken

[Excalibur]

There is so much that pisses me off about this.

From the ruling itself, which was so full of snark from a group of people who couldn't advance beyond the bottom rung of the legal profession;

To the fact that our legislature couldnt seem to remember to include a standard exception to the state ethics laws for special permission;

To the haphazard manner in which the University initially approached this. From the looks of it, whoever wrote the press response should have been handling this from the beginning.

 

[huskymedic]

Jacobs:

 

[Chief00]

Jacobs:

Jacobs says the hearing is 7/20 - Can the public attend? Where is it?

 

[huskymedic]

Jacobs says the hearing is 7/20 - Can the public attend? Where is it?

From post #29 above:

http://www.ct.gov/ethics/lib/ethics/ceab_agendas/2017/ceab_agenda_july_2017.pdf

>>The Citizen’s Ethics Advisory Board (“Board”) of the Office of State Ethics (“OSE”) will hold its Regular Meeting on Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 1:00 p.m. in the 5 th Floor Conference Room.<<

OES is on Trinity Street.

 

[UC313]

We need ya on this one Chief.

 

[Chief00]

We need ya on this one Chief.

They better get a larger conference room; where is the Edsall matter on the agenda?

New UConn FB motto this year "Don't F with our Program"

 

[UConn66]

Unreal. Absolutely unreal.

We finally have a solid Twitter presence. We finally have a solid West Coast recruiting presence. Both, in my opinion, happen to be brought to us by Corey Edsall. Idiots. The whole lot of them. Idiots.

Well, we have 1 year to figure out how to pass legislation that allows for an exemption for sports teams, which is exactly where an exemption should exist IMO. They are essentially saying that Luke Walton could coach a CT basketball team but could not have Bill Walton coach the bigs. Or that Rex Ryan and Rob Ryan couldn't be on staff together. Or Peyton Manning couldn't bring in Eli to be the quarterbacks coach. Or a host of other examples of high level professional folks that couldn't come here because we are stupid...

 

[whaler11]

From post #29 above:

http://www.ct.gov/ethics/lib/ethics/ceab_agendas/2017/ceab_agenda_july_2017.pdf

>>The Citizen’s Ethics Advisory Board (“Board”) of the Office of State Ethics (“OSE”) will hold its Regular Meeting on Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 1:00 p.m. in the 5 th Floor Conference Room.<<

OES is on Trinity Street.

We can go? I'm there.

 

[UConn66]

I suggest that the NCAA be brought in to address this egregious violation! As soon as they get done with North Carolina, that is. Our penalty must be made proportional to UNC's penalties. Net result? Coach Edsall the younger gets a raise! The Ethics Board should find jobs in the real world.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

UConn's position that Edsall became an employee when his contract stated as much is completely legitimate. Jeff Jacobs' argument in his article about the hypothetical business school dean is a great comparison here. The real argument UConn has here is Corey is a legitimately hired coach performing a legitimate job for which he was a legitimately qualified candidate. Yes, he is Randy's son and that gave him a leg up - but when I refer someone to apply for a job at my company that gives that applicant a leg up, this framework exists ethically in many organizations. The state is not paying Corey $95K to sit around and do nothing, he's performing his duties well, he was qualified to be hired for the position, and this whole thing is a ridiculous load of crap.

 

[ASweet3781]

If there is a state in the country with worse politicians than Connecticut I'd be hard pressed to find it.

Good luck to us getting into a power 5 with these dimwits at the helm.

 

[jdb50]

Where has the Ethics commission been in regards to supervisors kids being hired at the DEEP for summer jobs. That's right, looking the other way! Corey is at least qualified for the job. Ridiculous.

 

[uconnbill]

Anyone who wants to know what is wrong with Connecticut just has to read this ruling to know this state is screwed.

This has to be changed and we as fans, alumni, and taxpayers need to voice our concerns and have this changed.

 

[CL82]

Pack the meeting. Push the key points stated here that there is no opportunity of abuse and that the State has to re-characterize the the plain language of the parties in the contract and regarding direct supervision to create a violation.

 

[Chief00]

If there is a state in the country with worse politicians than Connecticut I'd be hard pressed to find it.

Good luck to us getting into a power 5 with these dimwits at the helm.

I hate to say it but everyone needs to look in the mirror because we are the ones that elect and reelect these clowns.

 

[Chief00]

Pack the meeting. Push the key points stated here that there is no opportunity of abuse and that the State has to re-characterize the the plain language of the parties in the contract and regarding direct supervision to create a violation.

LOL - packing a meeting in some tiny obscure conference room on Trinity Street won't be hard to do.

 

[UCFBfan]

So a few things.

First, how will this effect recruiting? I know Corey was in on a lot of the kids we have verbals from? Would him leaving after a year persuade them to back out? I know that Corey isn't the HC or the whole staff but recruits usually go where their recruiter goes if they leave. We have been doing a great job on the recruiting trail, I'd hate to see that reversed because of this ridiculous decision.

Second, this is exactly why we'll never be a P5 school. You look at the crap schools like Louisville and others do to be successful and attractive to P5 conferences and then you look at the crap we do and it's no wonder we have been left behind. I'm not saying I'd be proud of my school if they did things like fake classes or all the crap Louisville did, but in the end, it got those schools to the promised land. We need a successful program and Corey was helping us turn it around.

Finally, I can't believe that in a state that even come up with a freaking state budget, they have magically been able to find time to deal with this meaningless issue. It really just makes me shake my head......I'm embarrassed that I live in this state and will likely not leave, even when all the lights are turned off......

 

[Chin Diesel]

Amazingly enough UConn moved forward on negotiating Corey's contract after seeking advice from the same board.

You ask an oversight agency for preliminary guidance, you proceed based off their decision and then the same board says, you are in violation.

 

[huskymedic]

Amazingly enough UConn moved forward on negotiating Corey's contract after seeking advice from the same board.

You ask an oversight agency for preliminary guidance, you proceed based off their decision and then the same board says, you are in violation.

Yeah but UConn's Ethics and Compliance person was a little "loose" with the facts/circumstances in December and then failed to ask for a formal ruling when told to do so by the OSE though...

UConn has some culpability here - just sucks it has become the issue it has. Can they navigate a mutually agreeable solution before it becomes a formal ruling remains to be seen.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Chief00]

Big picture - are we going to act like a P5 winner or a bunch of losers. This is really a defining time and issue. I don't care about the ethic rules weeds - make it work - - and as JC would say - come back and see me.

 

[BlueDogs]

Simply infuriating...proving once again beyond any doubt that the folks running this state are incompetent, small time, petty, idiots.

Interestingly, it probably breaches RE's contract since it was specifically negotiated as part of the consideration for his contract and him agreeing to come back. Since the Cory hire was part of the inducement for RE, its not nepotism because RE didn't use his position or authority to hire Cory or extend special privileges to him. Moreover, Cory doesn't work for his father.

This should just be appealed to a court. It's really stupid. Or, as an alternative, have the legislature write in an exemption by special act.

It reminds me of the huge crumbling foundation problem where our illustrious leaders help hide the problem for 17 years with the insurance industry, and allowed them to get away with rewriting their policies to exclude coverage so thousands of homeowners are now victimized.

As long as they can tax and regulate the hell out of you to cover their state pensions, they could care less about anything else.

The swamp in CT is alive and well. The whole rotten bunch running the state for the last 20 years need to go.

 

[Waquoit]

If there is a state in the country with worse politicians than Connecticut I'd be hard pressed to find it.

Any state with an SEC school has worse politicians than Connecticut.

 

[CL82]

LOL - packing a meeting in some tiny obscure conference room on Trinity Street won't be hard to do.

Don't underestimate the benefit of having the hallways filled and having to rotate people in and out.

This ain't my first rodeo, Chief.

 

[NavinRJohnson]

After thinking about it, this is WORSE than "Jesus in the Huddle".

 

[HartfordHank]

If there is a state in the country with worse politicians than Connecticut I'd be hard pressed to find it.

MASSACHUSETTS! Their main piece of legislation this year was a pay raise!

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Do you have something against good honest lawyers making a living?

I wouldn't if I could find one.

Have you ever met a good lawyer who was also honest? An honest lawyer who was also a good attorney? The two traits seem to be mutually exclusive.

 

[sportsart]

I wouldn't if I could find one.

Have you ever met a good lawyer who was also honest? An honest lawyer who was also a good attorney? The two traits seem to be mutually exclusive.

You trying to bait @businesslawyer ?

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

But the new opinion also rejects UConn's contention that Randy Edsall would not be directly supervising his son or his son's immediate supervisor, the offensive coordinator. Such direct supervision of a family member would be a conflict of interest, according to state law.

In addition to Corey Edsall sort of reporting to Beth Goetz, Athletic Department COO, apparently Rhett Lashlee also reports in name to someone else, e.g., Goetz or maybe Athletic Director Benedict. Silly games; just wait for the anti all that is UConn crowd chiming in on the Courant comments board.

Extending Jeff Jacobs' comment regarding a newly hired business school dean, imagine CT's potential issues with a prospective big-hanging fundraiser of a business, engineering, medical, etc. dean's reasonable expectations his/her spouse in academia also be hired. Nope, that never happens in the academic world ...

 

[minidarren]

Simply infuriating...proving once again beyond any doubt that the folks running this state are incompetent, small time, petty, idiots.

Interestingly, it probably breaches RE's contract since it was specifically negotiated as part of the consideration for his contract and him agreeing to come back. Since the Cory hire was part of the inducement for RE, its not nepotism because RE didn't use his position or authority to hire Cory or extend special privileges to him. Moreover, Cory doesn't work for his father.

This should just be appealed to a court. It's really stupid. Or, as an alternative, have the legislature write in an exemption by special act.

It reminds me of the huge crumbling foundation problem where our illustrious leaders help hide the problem for 17 years with the insurance industry, and allowed them to get away with rewriting their policies to exclude coverage so thousands of homeowners are now victimized.

As long as they can tax and regulate the hell out of you to cover their state pensions, they could care less about anything else.

The swamp in CT is alive and well. The whole rotten bunch running the state for the last 20 years need to go.

My father has not only one, but two of these beautiful basements.