Start Cochran

[huskyrob1]

Only difference in stats is reps?? This is what I was talking about with using stats to push your opinion. You do realize Cochran hasn't faced a first team Defense or started a game while Whitmer and Boyle both have. How does that make those stat lines comparable? I'm not arguing with you that stats are important and valid. But to make a claim like you did is wrong and there's no other way around that. Finally, what results have Whitmer and Cochran given that Boyle hasn't? Last I checked the only results that matter are team wins and right now we have ZERO. There's another stat that shows we need to start whoever can help us add a 1 in that column each week. Boyle is not going to help that this season, I agree with that sentiment. However, I don't think Whitmer will either and Cochran, we don't know. So why not go with Cochran for a game. If it doesn't work go back to Whitmer. Stats are great for many things but the way you're saying some of them are not fairly equivalent.

I say start Cochran simply because he's the best athlete of the three, IMO. Stats be damned, just 2 years ago Johnny McEntee had much better stats than Nike Nebrich. So Paul Pasqualoni, in his infinite wisdom, started McEntee and completely ignored Nebrich the entire season.

 

[UConnDan97]

Only difference in stats is reps?? This is what I was talking about with using stats to push your opinion. You do realize Cochran hasn't faced a first team Defense or started a game while Whitmer and Boyle both have. How does that make those stat lines comparable? I'm not arguing with you that stats are important and valid. But to make a claim like you did is wrong and there's no other way around that. Finally, what results have Whitmer and Cochran given that Boyle hasn't? Last I checked the only results that matter are team wins and right now we have ZERO. There's another stat that shows we need to start whoever can help us add a 1 in that column each week. Boyle is not going to help that this season, I agree with that sentiment. However, I don't think Whitmer will either and Cochran, we don't know. So why not go with Cochran for a game. If it doesn't work go back to Whitmer. Stats are great for many things but the way you're saying some of them are not fairly equivalent.

You do realize that Cochran is throwing passes to some second string receivers while second string OL's are blocking for him too, right? I mean, it's not like only the OTHER team is switching out guys when they are up 31-3. Get real.

And wins of course matter. So do TD's. Boyle has zero of them. ZERO. Zip. Zilch. Nada. That's a GIGANTIC stat. Here's another one; he's got 8 interceptions. EIGHT! The problem with Whitmer was always that he threw a few more picks than we could absorb in a game (i.e., Michigan). But Boyle? Brutally worse. Stats tell you that, too.

And finally, and most importantly, I love how you vehemently argue with me, only to end your post with the same conclusion! That Boyle should not be the starter. Good grief...

 

[SubbaBub]

We interrupt this meltdown to remind you that the QB position is nowhere near the area in most need of improvement.

 

[UCFBfan]

You do realize that Cochran is throwing passes to some second string receivers while second string OL's are blocking for him too, right? I mean, it's not like only the OTHER team is switching out guys when they are up 31-3. Get real.

And wins of course matter. So do TD's. Boyle has zero of them. ZERO. Zip. Zilch. Nada. That's a GIGANTIC stat. Here's another one; he's got 8 interceptions. EIGHT! The problem with Whitmer was always that he threw a few more picks than we could absorb in a game (i.e., Michigan). But Boyle? Brutally worse. Stats tell you that, too.

And finally, and most importantly, I love how you vehemently argue with me, only to end your post with the same conclusion! That Boyle should not be the starter. Good grief...

Dan....relax...I'm not trying to argue your overall statement that Cochran should start or be given the chance to. I was just trying to point out that stats are not the be all end all. Wasn't looking to get into anything with you.

 

[UConnDan97]

Dan....relax...I'm not trying to argue your overall statement that Cochran should start or be given the chance to. I was just trying to point out that stats are not the be all end all. Wasn't looking to get into anything with you.

Okay, that's fair. My Boneyard playcalling hasn't been what it used to be, and I'm in the process of developing a young writing system. I spent too much time in a damned "zone writing" scheme. I'll definitely be better next year...

 

[noeynox]

I'd like to see Casey start the last four games for one other reason. That way, next year's coach has four games of film on all three QBs to evaluate. Then, let the best man win.

 

[RedSoloCup]

I would like Casey to get at least the entire second half of the next game. I like Boyle as our future, the red-shirt is gone for the year so get starts and experience as much as he can in this sh@t-storm of a season.

Then have Casey come in and run the show, have Boyle learn from his poise, etc. If Casey can run (and win) the second half, which usually starts with first stringers playing, then give him the rest of the season.

 

[Hoophound]

I would like Casey to get at least the entire second half of the next game. I like Boyle as our future, the red-shirt is gone for the year so get starts and experience as much as he can in this sh@t-storm of a season.

Then have Casey come in and run the show, have Boyle learn from his poise, etc. If Casey can run (and win) the second half, which usually starts with first stringers playing, then give him the rest of the season.

Casey needs to keys in the first half. If he is playing well, it will energize the rest of the team and help propel them. There is no reason to keep giving Casey a chance when the game is decided. He makes quick reads and throws accurate passes. Let's see if that can get us a win rather than seeing if it can get us a garbage time TD.

 

[UConnDan97]

If someone could start a new thread just for fun, with the three (or I suppose, four) choices for QB for the next game as a voting button thread, I would be interested to see what many of the anonymous Boneyarders think. I would do it myself, but even after all this time, I haven't figured out how to post a survey...

 

[UCFBfan]

If someone could start a new thread just for fun, with the three (or I suppose, four) choices for QB for the next game as a voting button thread, I would be interested to see what many of the anonymous Boneyarders think. I would do it myself, but even after all this time, I haven't figured out how to post a survey...

Consider it done. Good idea btw.

 

[Nostical]

After speaking yesterday re: Boyle, it sounds like T J Weist is preparing the media for the distinct possibility.

"He's got to do a better job throwing the football, handling the offense. He's just got to get better at it," Weist said. "We're not committed to anybody who's not playing up to their level so we'll re-evaluate it. If we have to make some decisions on who our quarterback is, and if we keep him in there, we're going to look at the film and make the best decision for the team."I'm going to meet with our staff. I'm going to put pressure on him and then the (other) quarterbacks and decide what's best for our team, who is the best quarterback. ... I'm not committed to any player."

 

[fortebleedsblue]

Right now I want the QB with:
1. The most confidence --and
2. The best leadership skills
I'm not as concerned with arm strength (if that's the rub against CC.) We have no business anyway right now relying on long downfield routes or those incessant sideline attempts that scream Pick 6. Give me quick slants and screens and a guy with a bounce in his step and a hand clapping enthusiasm for the game. We're too robotic out there. I agree with Sportsart that Boyle looks shell shocked and could use a breather. And if I'm Whitmer I'm saying to the coaching staff--" You said---I---was the problem??? Really???"

+1000. I can not for the life of me understand why the game plan does not include any short cross routes. Our passes are either outside for an out of bounds catch or down the feild for an int. I have not been impressed with Weist at OC, his playbook is subpar. Also with regards to Boyle not having time, there were plays where he had a pocket, a wide open WR and he threw it BEHIND the WR. One in particular stands out where Davis adjusted on it and made a great backwards catch with no chance to run forward. How about the play where he had lamelle WIDE open to the point where he could walk in the endzone yet throws a hard to catch ball, should the WR have made the catch, yes was it a nice in stride catchable ball... HELL NO.I'm not crapping on Tim this is a team effort and he is just as responsible with high and behind passes and not being able to read the D. I see no downside in giving Casey a shot.. I'm a Boyle fan but Casey's "garbage time" play has me intrigued

 

[kris1]

I want Logan Marchi to start next week. Enough babying him by having him play HS games. Get him in there. He is the answer.

Although I believe your saying this tongue-in-cheek, Marchi is not physically ready for college football. He weighs 170 Lbs and throws a lot of INTs (47 in his HS career thus far).

 

[ATLDYKA]

Boyle came out and looked sharp against USF, unfortunaltely the drops hurt his confidence. What I liked early on is that he appeared to have the ability to make things happen with his feet. I wonder if he took a pop that hurt him but didn't show it and since then he hasn't shown any ability to run. We constantly run the handoff and Boyle never keeps it to keep the defense honest. He appears to have a lot of room to run at times but always hands it off. He also has not done well to make the quick decision to leave the pocket and take off but has just been taking too many sacks. I know the O-line stinks but many have been on him. Something happened that first game and he is just doesn't appear to want to run anymore.