Start Cochran

[UCFBfan]

Against an uninspired 3rd string defense. Casey looked fine and I was happy to see him do well, but you can clearly see that Boyle has a much higher upside.

I'm not doubting any of you who saw these two at practice or Casey in the Spring game, but I think it's crazy to say that he doesn't deserve a shot to prove himself against a 1st team D. I'm sure Boyle is going to be great but who knows, maybe Casey could be too. At this point, what is there to loose.

This isn't directed at you Jax, just feel like many people feel they know that Cochran isn't good and once we non-believers see him play we'll all see he stinks. No one has seen him play against a first string D in a game setting. Give him a shot and let's see what we got. At this point, anything would be great to see.

(I'm not in either QB's corner, I just want the best players to be playing)

 

[metsfan2323]

Earth to UCONN coaching staff, please start Cochran next week. I see nothing but quick and intelligent reads, accurate throws and you know what, the kid has a better arm than he is giving credit for, plenty of velocity on the ball, much more like Endres than we thought.

Is Casey ever going to get a real shot here or is he destined to be a star at Fordham?

and BTW, HE'S JUST A FRESHMAN TOO.

 

[Hoophound]

Boyle couldn't do the job and Casey came in cold on a very cold night and drove the team into the end zone. He also converted two 3rd downs to do it. He just reads the defense and finds receivers better than Boyle and Whitmer do. Further, he is far more accurate. He's exactly what he was always advertised to be. You can't undervalue that he reads defenses that fast, especially with a weak OL and so so backs.

 

[joey3$trike$]

Give him a shot, it can't get much worse, what do they have to lose?

 

[metsfan2323]

Give him a shot, it can't get much worse, what do they have to lose?

We're going to lose another good QB to Fordham if Cochran doesn't get a shot.

 

[formerlurker]

I apologize to the Casey camp.

I'm 100% on board if you'll forgive me.

Maybe his dad can move us to a different conference so we can recruit better!

 

[formerlurker]

Were going to lose another good QB to Fordham if Cochran doesn't get a shot.

I'd give that the proverbial "shtload" of likes if I could.

 

[sportsart]

Boyle is damaged goods right now. He needs to sit and regroup for next year. Casey deserves to play vs the one's and see if he can continue.

Boyle is so lost he may be too damaged to fix if he's allowed to continue.

 

[whaler11]

UConn fans have one thing down. Worshipping the backup quarterback.

 

[metsfan2323]

UConn fans have one thing down. Worshipping the backup quarterback.

Your cut against the grain posts which don't offer any additional insight are becoming inane.

 

[sportsart]

Your cut against the grain posts which don't offer any additional insight are becoming inane.

When you give 28 points and the 2nd string QB beats you, you tend to lash out at said 2nd string QB.

 

[Hoophound]

UConn fans have one thing down. Worshipping the backup quarterback.

Casey is clearly better at this point. If he sucks in a start, I say let him play through it. Boyle isnt the answer this year. Casey needs an extended shot.

This isn't an example of being in love with the backup in the traditional sense. We've seen him play and he's better in all facets when he does.

 

[huskymedic]

Boyle is damaged goods right now. He needs to sit and regroup for next year. Casey deserves to play vs the one's and see if he can continue.

This ^^^

The question needs to be called. He deserves a chance to start @ SMU.

 

[whaler11]

Your cut against the grain posts which don't offer any additional insight are becoming inane.

What Cochran does in garbage time against the second and third stringers doesn't matter. Oh they scored down 31-3 and 62-10. It's not evidence of anything other than that's what happens at the end of games.

If you want to pretend things would be different if he starts knock yourself out. It will work out exactly the same as the switch from Whitmer to Boyle.

It was only three weeks ago I was pointing out against lunacy that Boyle wasn't locked in as the starter the next three years. Now it's the garbage time brigade begging for Cochran.

People have hard ons for backup quarterbacks. No matter how many times it plays out - they still fool themselves into thinking it will fix things.

 

[sportsart]

This ^^^

The question needs to be called. He deserves a chance to start @ SMU.

We will see if TJ has a clue. I'd be shocked if Boyle starts next week. One of PP's worst qualities was his stubbornness, and if TJ tries to stick to his guns, so to speak, and starts Boyle we'll know he has no clue.

 

[fgbrault]

Casey is clearly better at this point. If he sucks in a start, I say let him play through it. Boyle isnt the answer this year. Casey needs an extended shot.

This isn't an example of being in love with the backup in the traditional sense. We've seen him play and he's better in all facets when he does.

Exactly, we have seen both and it is absolutely clear that Casey deserves a chance. Boyle is not coming close to doing the job, while Casey shows real promise.

 

[whaler11]

When you give 28 points and the 2nd string QB beats you, you tend to lash out at said 2nd string QB.

Oh good. The guy who wants to treat UConn as a pee-wee football program is going to chime in.

All we need is more hugs. Enough hugs and they win out.

 

[metsfan2323]

What Cochran does in garbage time against the second and third stringers doesn't matter. Oh they scored down 31-3 and 62-10. It's not evidence of anything other than that's what happens at the end of games.

If you want to pretend things would be different if he starts knock yourself out. It will work out exactly the same as the switch from Whitmer to Boyle.

It was only three weeks ago I was pointing out against lunacy that Boyle wasn't locked in as the starter the next three years. Now it's the garbage time brigade begging for Cochran.

People have hard ons for backup quarterbacks. No matter how many times it plays out - they still fool themselves into thinking it will fix things.

So your point is once a back-up always a back-up?

We have no wins and nothing to lose, your argument for not starting Cochran next week is what exactly?

And you were right about people going overboard for Boyle after the USF game, and I was one of them, I give you kudos for that, but I don't understand why any UCONN fan would not want to see what Cochran can do as a starter in this complete waste of a season.

 

[housekeys]

The point is to keep rotating players until you find the ones that perform.

What don't understand?

Agreed. Not only is rotating the right thing to do at this point, but it need not be seen as desperation by the coach. Watching the game from the sidelines, after having a horrific debut, may be just the thing to get Boyle or anyone else the second wind, sort-of speak. It certainly will not hurt at this time. Coaches frequently bench their starters when it's not their night, only to use them when it matters in the future.

 

[UConnDan97]

Boyle shouldn't start next game. I would be fine with starting Cochran. I would be fine with returning to Whitmer. But Boyle has been given plenty of chances to show something and he flat out hasn't.

I feel good about the fact that Boyle has tools and room to grow. But the results show that he shouldn't be out there...

 

[whaler11]

So your point is once a back-up always a back-up?

We have no wins and nothing to lose, your argument for not starting Cochran next week is what exactly?

And you were right about people going overboard for Boyle after the USF game, and I was one of them, I give you kudos for that, but I don't understand why any UCONN fan would not want to see what Cochran can do as a starter.

No my point is that he's no better than either of the prior starters and the when he plays against starters you'll see that.

It doesn't much matter who they start to me. If they want to beat SMU, I think it's pretty obvious that Whitmer gives them the best chance but if they'd like to reward Cochran for his play in garbage time that's fine too - it's just crazy to expect anything other than snap - pressure - bad result.

Boyle was pretty bad but when you don't have a split second to do anything it doesn't much matter who the quarterback is.

 

[UConnDan97]

I think it's pretty obvious that Whitmer gives them the best chance but if they'd like to reward Cochran for his play in garbage time that's fine too

This statement sums up my feelings about the whole thing. Whitmer should be the starter. He is the best quarterback on this team right now. If you don't believe me, check the passer ratings.

The problem was that he threw a few picks along with his TD's. Well, Boyle's got the picks part down now, so...

 

[ruskin]

Not fair to say CC only succeeds in garbage time. He has better footwork and gets rid of the ball faster. Why TJ didn't put him earlier tonight is beyond me.

 

[whaler11]

Not fair to say CC only succeeds in garbage time. He has better footwork and gets rid of the ball faster. Why TJ didn't put him earlier tonight is beyond me.

Has he succeeded in non garbage time?

How isn't it fair then?

 

[ruskin]

Has he succeeded in non garbage time?

How isn't it fair then?

He's succeeded, which puts him ahead of 90 percent of his teammates. Throw out the Cincy INT. Not really interested in watching more interception-fests with Whitmer as this Bataan Death March concludes.

 

[metsfan2323]

Has he succeeded in non garbage time?

How isn't it fair then?

It's not fair that he has never had a chance in non garbage time, how is he supposed to be successful when it counts from the bench?

Your argument makes no sense because he has never had a start.

 

[huskymedic]

...when you don't have a split second to do anything it doesn't much matter who the quarterback is.

The Ends were abused tonight.

 

[ruskin]

And another thing. CC came in when the game was out of hand and gave it everything he had. Sad to say cannot be said for most others. Way too much grab-assing on the sideline for my taste at the end.

 

[huskymedic]

And another thing. CC came in when the game was out of hand and gave it everything he had. Sad to say cannot be said for most others. Way too much grab-assing on the sideline for my taste at the end.

For DB too...

DariusJButler11:52pm via Echofon
Why do we look so duck**** HAPPY!?? We're down 21!!!!

That came after KA TD.

 

[housekeys]

What Cochran does in garbage time against the second and third stringers doesn't matter. Oh they scored down 31-3 and 62-10. It's not evidence of anything other than that's what happens at the end of games.

If you want to pretend things would be different if he starts knock yourself out. It will work out exactly the same as the switch from Whitmer to Boyle.

It was only three weeks ago I was pointing out against lunacy that Boyle wasn't locked in as the starter the next three years. Now it's the garbage time brigade begging for Cochran.

People have hard ons for backup quarterbacks. No matter how many times it plays out - they still fool themselves into thinking it will fix things.

There is a difference between doing the right thing and getting the right result. For example, firing PP was the right thing( or you disagree?) but clearly we are not getting the right results. If you understand this subtle difference you will be fine.