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South Carolina vs Maryland

GCKSFN4L said:
You have made it clear how you felt about SC throughout your many posts in this thread alone. You're talking about the tournament but we're not even a week into the regular season. There's plenty of time for any team to learn and get better.

SC has often struggled with trading 3's with 2's, including last season (when they were the favorite) but they hang their hats on defending and rebounding so it is not as big as problem as some are hoping it will be. Losing a senior PG in Henny will definitely hurt, but there are still some capable PG's and potential 3 point shooters on this team. Perhaps let's wait a few weeks or a couple of months before we write any team off.
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When did we struggle with trading 3s for 2s?
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
When did we struggle with trading 3s for 2s?
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Actually, good point. I guess I'm conflating certain games in which the opposing teams gets hot from 3 for a quarter or a half but it normally doesn't last for a whole game. Especially in some of those old Arkansas games over the years, that kept the game a little closer than they should be for a bit.
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
Of course South Carolina will be fine but they aren’t far and away the best team in the country. They run into a team that is shooting hot from three in the tournament they will be exchanging 3’s with 2’s.

There best players rely on their worst players to create shots for them or get them the ball. The loss of Henderson is being greatly diminished here and I think y’all are in for a rude awakening once competition gets stiffer.
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Teams do not hit a high percentage or get a lot of attempts from the three against SC. SC plays a tight man to man and athletic enough to switch at all positions including Boston. It is very hard to get 3s in the halfcourt set. You may get them in transition, but you usually don't get good looks in the halfcourt. Every time SC graduate a point guard, in the beginning of the season the naysayers think it is going to be a weakness. You are making a lot of assumptions off of 1 game.
 
Maryland didn't do much today to enhance Scar's win the other day by having to struggle to beat mid-major Fordham 83-76.
 
Exactly what anyone wifi watched them last week would expect. Maryland is not a top 25 team right now.
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
Exactly what anyone wifi watched them last week would expect. Maryland is not a top 25 team right now.
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First of all, this seems to be a biased take and more subjective in terms of your likes. Instead of the positionless basketball that most teams are trying to play these days, South Carolina plays a traditional style based on specific shots and rebounding. This does not look as pretty as the princeton offense, you may desire but South Carolina over the past years have beaten the lovely offensive style you desire. Secondly, South Carolina has shut down the best three point shooting teams in the country over the past three years, so they welcome the so called great three point shooting teams you seem to mention in your rants. You keep referencing Stanford, whose three point shooting was woeful last year leading to their lost in the semis if I remember correctly. South Carolina is just fine and dominant. A few years ago, Baylor won the National Championship without taking a three in the final game. I as a SC fan, like their style because they not only win, but seem to completely overwhelm opponents.
 
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If Maryland has their top player back they are probably top 15.

I think SC is probably still favored but I think Stanford is probably the better team now from the early data. There are some valid points above, for example, SC defending the 3 very well as they do. Cardosa is having a great year so far and there is a ton of depth. If you look closely at Stanford they may have the bigs needed now to at least compete with SC's interior. They may have an advantage in 3 point shooting. SC's overall defense and physicality may obviate Stanford's advantages though as they just have a team of tremendous athletes. We will see. I think it's very close.

I think the wild card though is that they may never face each other in the tournament. If SC's guards get cold, and the other team controls their tournovers, rebound acceptably and shoot well, SC can potentially lose, as any team can potentially lose.
 
TeamFirst! said:
If Maryland has their top player back they are probably top 15.

I think SC is probably still favored but I think Stanford is probably the better team now from the early data. There are some valid points above, for example, SC defending the 3 very well as they do. Cardosa is having a great year so far and there is a ton of depth. If you look closely at Stanford they may have the bigs needed now to at least compete with SC's interior. They may have an advantage in 3 point shooting. SC's overall defense and physicality may obviate Stanford's advantages though as they just have a team of tremendous athletes. We will see. I think it's very close.

I think the wild card though is that they may never face each other in the tournament. If SC's guards get cold, and the other team controls their tournovers, rebound acceptably and shoot well, SC can potentially lose, as any team can potentially lose.
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Sort of like Stanford lost to an inferior team last year.
 
TeamFirst! said:
If Maryland has their top player back they are probably top 15.

I think SC is probably still favored but I think Stanford is probably the better team now from the early data. There are some valid points above, for example, SC defending the 3 very well as they do. Cardosa is having a great year so far and there is a ton of depth. If you look closely at Stanford they may have the bigs needed now to at least compete with SC's interior. They may have an advantage in 3 point shooting. SC's overall defense and physicality may obviate Stanford's advantages though as they just have a team of tremendous athletes. We will see. I think it's very close.

I think the wild card though is that they may never face each other in the tournament. If SC's guards get cold, and the other team controls their tournovers, rebound acceptably and shoot well, SC can potentially lose, as any team can potentially lose.
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I agree. South Carolina is not unbeatable.
 
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Alydar said:
Maryland didn't do much today to enhance Scar's win the other day by having to struggle to beat mid-major Fordham 83-76.
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Too many turnovers. Fordham do have a very experienced team. three seniors and two graduates in the starting lineup.
 
visitingcock said:
Easy now. Our trolls own this board
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His point was valid potentially, although we did have to beat SEVERAL top seeds to get to the finals. Overall though, any of the top teams can beat each other on a given day.
 
Look at Stanford's numbers after 4 games and especially Iriafen and Betts. People think Stanford is Jones and Brinks mainly but they have a lot of very strong supplementary players. As a team they are shooting .563. Team 3 point percentage after 4 games is .421. Brinks is averaging over 4 blocks a game.

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shiverz45 said:
Teams do not hit a high percentage or get a lot of attempts from the three against SC. SC plays a tight man to man and athletic enough to switch at all positions including Boston. It is very hard to get 3s in the halfcourt set. You may get them in transition, but you usually don't get good looks in the halfcourt. Every time SC graduate a point guard, in the beginning of the season the naysayers think it is going to be a weakness. You are making a lot of assumptions off of 1 game.
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Some people here didn’t believe in Henderson until she became a giant slayer last year… they do this every year with SC. Before that, it was Ty and KiKi.. they weren’t “good enough”.. then they went off their senior season, just like Henny did.

SC has a system. We take advantage of our best players strengths. Right now, it’s not 3 point shooting.. it hardly ever is for us. Our style is not Princeton. It’s not UCONN. It’s not Notre Dame. People need to accept that because we keep winning regardless and plus variety is nice.
 
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Bigboote said:
Abby Myers appears to be another player transferring from a mid-major to P5 and flourishing.
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Who else besides her would you consider flourishing against P5 teams ?
 
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GCKSFN4L said:
Actually, good point. I guess I'm conflating certain games in which the opposing teams gets hot from 3 for a quarter or a half but it normally doesn't last for a whole game. Especially in some of those old Arkansas games over the years, that kept the game a little closer than they should be for a bit.
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A team would have to get hot and hit at least 21 three pointers ala Louisville vs Baylor the Shimmel era to have a chance at beating SC on a bad shooting night. Even on a bad shooting night they tend to get the rebound 95% of the time. Folks focus on their defense but the only way a team can beat SC in march is if they outrebound them which no team has been able to do in a while.
 
WFFL said:
A team would have to get hot and hit at least 21 three pointers ala Louisville vs Baylor the Shimmel era to have a chance at beating SC on a bad shooting night. Even on a bad shooting night they tend to get the rebound 95% of the time. Folks focus on their defense but the only way a team can beat SC in march is if they outrebound them which no team has been able to do in a while.
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Hyperbole like this is why I think South Carolina is far over hyped this year. A team that is playing offense 4 vs 5 or sometimes even 3 v5 every time down the court is going to be easier to beat than you seem to realize.

I still think they are a top 5 team and will got to the final four but, yea, this isn’t the take.
 
Biggest thing I think teams do is just what Maryland did is pack the paint. To be honest I think teams would fare better playing them straight up. Why, because although those wide open threes may not fall, the bigs for SC anticipates that shot and position themselves for that rebound. This why I think Dawn gives players like Beal the green light.

Sometimes as coaches you gotta play and trust that your players will get it done, instead of trying to install a junk defense that frankly SC is prepared to see.
 
Alydar said:
Maryland didn't do much today to enhance Scar's win the other day by having to struggle to beat mid-major Fordham 83-76.
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:eek:I pretty sure that is not how it works.
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South Carolina is already #1 and they beat Maryland. How could you possibly enhance a number 1 ranking?
 
CocoHusky said:
:eek:I pretty sure that is not how it works.
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South Carolina is already #1 and they beat Maryland. How could you possibly enhance a number 1 ranking?
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What I said wasn't enhanced was the quality of the win. I said nothing about the ranking.
 
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hoopsnloops32 said:
They said win not ranking.
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Alydar said:
What I said wasn't enhanced was the quality of the win. I said nothing about the ranking.
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:eek: Quality of win factors in the ranking. Why else would you bring it up?

The number one ranked team team cannot be ranked higher than number 1.
 
CocoHusky said:
:eek: Quality of win factors in the ranking. Why else would you bring it up?

The number one ranked team team cannot be ranked higher than number 1.
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CocoHusky said:
:eek: Quality of win factors in the ranking. Why else would you bring it up?

The number one ranked team team cannot be ranked higher than number 1.
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There’s a thing called the NCAA tournament at the end of the season. Not sure you’ve hard about it. But the seed you based on the quality of wins and loses. So the quality of wins is regularly evaluated.
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
Hyperbole like this is why I think South Carolina is far over hyped this year. A team that is playing offense 4 vs 5 or sometimes even 3 v5 every time down the court is going to be easier to beat than you seem to realize.

I still think they are a top 5 team and will got to the final four but, yea, this isn’t the take.
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It's a good thing we don't do that then.
 
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